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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Iucounu

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Can we please keep politics out of Stalker 2? :negative:
devs themselves started politicize their vaporware game
But only in interviews, right? Not in the actual game?
>ChOrnobyl
What do you think?
Touché. :-D Still just the title though, but didn't they cut all the Russian voice acting as well?
 

Ryzer

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I would be deeply disapointed if the game doesnt have at least a few missions in which you fight rusnigger troops as they try to take over the Zone or something tbh fam.
Eh, it is natural for Stalkers to fight with the military, regardless of what kind of military that would be.
It's almost 100% certain that this time around the Ukrainian army will be depicted favorably unlike previous Stalker titles.
There is also a high chance, a new enemy faction will be in the game that will be suprise, surprise Russian.
Or maybe Monolith was Russian all along, plot twist.
 

antimeridian

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It's almost 100% certain that this time around the Ukrainian army will be depicted favorably unlike previous Stalker titles.
There is also a high chance, a new enemy faction will be in the game that will be suprise, surprise Russian.
Odds that HoC UKR army stalkers in will be invincible NPCs Todd-style? Or maybe you get a game over if you combat them?
I can't envision a game where you can and/or must shoot UKR army being released in the current climate.
 

Iucounu

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I would be deeply disapointed if the game doesnt have at least a few missions in which you fight rusnigger troops as they try to take over the Zone or something tbh fam.
Eh, it is natural for Stalkers to fight with the military, regardless of what kind of military that would be.
True. And even when the PC is one himself (like in CoP), the Zone's Stalkers in general are still hostile to the Military. Maybe the best solution is to make the nationality of the game's Military unspecified? Then everybody can make their own interpretation.
 

thesecret1

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I think an even bigger problem will be that the game will just be shit. All these "devs that made a game over a decade ago decided to get back to it and make a sequel" tales seem to end the same way: dogshit titles made by washed up has-beens.
 

Iucounu

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Negro and strong independent women stalkers when? Це Європа after all.
It's telling that Anomaly, probably the most popular Stalker mod, decided to include female stalkers (Hip) and nobody minds.
The fanbase will get what they deserve.

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Harthwain

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It’s important and good to have things that are for men and aren’t interested in or concerned with women, and it’s easy to identify STALKER as that kind of thing.
Certainly. But at the same time one shouldn't be surprised that men are interested in women enough to include them in some fan-made patch. With mods you can have whatever fantasy you wish, as long as somebody can make it actually happen (because that's exactly what this is: a fantasy).

Some pictures I found online (SFW, but I have a policy to spoiler images in general to avoid taking up screen space just in case):

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Negro and strong independent women stalkers when? Це Європа after all.
It's telling that Anomaly, probably the most popular Stalker mod, decided to include female stalkers (Hip) and nobody minds.
The fanbase will get what they deserve.
It is almost as if men want to see some hot ladies in tight gear in their games...
Then people will complain about (or lack of) chainmail bikini equivalent of stalker gear in game.
 

Harthwain

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Then people will complain about (or lack of) chainmail bikini equivalent of stalker gear in game.
Someone will always complain about something. I would be more apprehensive to this kind of thing if it were to eat resources needed to develop the game in the first place, but if someone wants and can do something like this as a free addition to the game that's entirely optional to use, then he has my blessing. Modding is rarely a bad thing.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Negro and strong independent women stalkers when? Це Європа after all.
It's telling that Anomaly, probably the most popular Stalker mod, decided to include female stalkers (Hip) and nobody minds.
The fanbase will get what they deserve.
What's the problem with female stalkers?
Breaks immershun, is distracting. Regressing back to barebones civilization means going back to the "might makes right" kindda world people used to inhabit for millennia. And that in turn necessarily drags women back to their previous roles.

In such a world every stronk yas queen trying to fearlessly roam the wasteland would be everyone's favourite juicy prey. Very soon everyone would get the memo and women would once again stay huddled around well guarded campfires.
 

NecroLord

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Negro and strong independent women stalkers when? Це Європа after all.
It's telling that Anomaly, probably the most popular Stalker mod, decided to include female stalkers (Hip) and nobody minds.
The fanbase will get what they deserve.
What's the problem with female stalkers?
Breaks immershun, is distracting. Regressing back to barebones civilization means going back to the "might makes right" kindda world people used to inhabit for millennia. And that in turn necessarily drags women back to their previous roles.

In such a world every stronk yas queen trying to fearlessly roam the wasteland would be everyone's favourite juicy prey. Very soon everyone would get the memo and women would once again stay huddled around well guarded campfires.
That was the point I made a few months back.
What the hell are women doing in The Zone? You know, surrounded by packs of mutants, bloodsuckers, chimeras, pseudogiants, bandits, mercenaries?
Yeah, man, not fun...
 

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Negro and strong independent women stalkers when? Це Європа after all.
It's telling that Anomaly, probably the most popular Stalker mod, decided to include female stalkers (Hip) and nobody minds.
The fanbase will get what they deserve.
What's the problem with female stalkers?
Breaks immershun, is distracting. Regressing back to barebones civilization means going back to the "might makes right" kindda world people used to inhabit for millennia. And that in turn necessarily drags women back to their previous roles.

In such a world every stronk yas queen trying to fearlessly roam the wasteland would be everyone's favourite juicy prey. Very soon everyone would get the memo and women would once again stay huddled around well guarded campfires.
That was the point I made a few months back.
What the hell are women doing in The Zone? You know, surrounded by packs of mutants, bloodsuckers, chimeras, pseudogiants, bandits, mercenaries?
Yeah, man, not fun...
Small amount of women stalkers makes sense. There are women in the military too, or working as guards. IMO it adds to immersion to have a few female stalkers somewhere in the zone (as long as you don't go full retard with 50/50 ratio or make the girls always be best like Obsidian does).
 

Hace El Oso

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Small amount of women stalkers makes sense. There are women in the military too, or working as guards. IMO it adds to immersion to have a few female stalkers somewhere in the zone (as long as you don't go full retard with 50/50 ratio or make the girls always be best like Obsidian does).

But the zone isn’t life in a ‘civilized’ army with many support rules for softies like women, it’s frontier life on steroids. And the common thread in all frontier societies is that women are in extremely short supply or not in stock at all, and never doing the same work as men.
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Small amount of women stalkers makes sense. There are women in the military too, or working as guards.
Because our plush, fat, comfortable civilization can afford it.

Since the dawn of man up until a 100 years ago there were zero women in combat roles anywhere in the world, for good reasons. A postapo world would bring those reasons back.
 

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Since the dawn of man up until a 100 years ago there were zero women in combat roles anywhere in the world, for good reasons. A postapo world would bring those reasons back.

Stop spreading such obvious bullshit.

Is that why after Bizantines defeated Slavs in the siege of Constantinople they reported there were many women among the dead Slavic warriors?

Here's a random link:
Possible grave of a Slavic warrior woman has been identified by Dr. Leszek Gardeła. Archaeologists discovered it many years ago in the Viking cemetery on the Danish island of Langeland. But until now they did not notice a typical Slavic axe.

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Unfortunately, bones are not preserved in most graves from this period. It is therefore difficult to say how people buried there died, or unambiguously confirm their biological sex. Researchers are convinced that some of the graves containing weapons are women`s burials mainly because of additional equipment, for example typically female ornaments and jewellery.
https://scienceinpoland.pl/en/news/...sible-grave-slavic-warrior-woman-denmark.html

It's well known Slavic women were fighting along men in combat.

Same with many nomads, Illyrians and so on.
 

Harthwain

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A postapo world would bring those reasons back.
Or it could change it to "all hands on deck!". During medieval sieges women were helping, because it was the moment of crisis that required even them to take part. Same goes for putting women into factories to replace men who were sent off to war and women who were conscripted into the army (not just in supporting roles), because there was a shortage of fighting men at the time. Same goes for farm work (again, men were sent to war). So you could see women doing work they usually wouldn't do in a postapo setting (especially depending on size of the group and its makeup).
 

cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.

It's well known Slavic women were fighting along men in combat.
Yes, there is that one mention from the Siege of Dorostol (not Constantinople) where the Byzantines won, marched into the city and found dead Slavic women alongside their men.

It seems this was indeed a time-honored tradition among the Slav and the Norse women to take up arms and fight alongside men when their settlement/town/fortress was attacked.

It was a purely defensive role, along the thinking "might as well swing the sword too because if they win they'll kill me or turn me into a sex slave and fuck that noise". That's very different from women going on raids or serving as regular soldiers or mercenaries.

Or it could change it to "all hands on deck!". During medieval sieges women were helping
Sure but roaming the wasteland in search of loot and glory isn't the type of "all hands of deck" scenario we're talking about in connection with female "warriors".
 

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