Shadowrun Shadowrun Returns - Dead Man's Switch Original Campaign

[Nael]

Due to the linearity this game almost feels more like X-Com strategy than RPG. Which I guess isn't a bad thing perse.

Really enjoying it but damn the "click for next mission" style is not what I expected.

Yeah it really spoils everything. Even the SNES game never held your hand, not once. The world felt far more alive. The whole point of these games was being a shadowrunner lost in a weird, oppressive town full of dangers lurking about. Do they really expect us to feel the same when treating the player like a kindergardener?

Why is it too hard to ask here? Why devolve in 20 years? Why does even Avadon look more like a true RPG? And this was supposed to be a game that would bring about incline? All it brings about is the iOS-ization of the medium.

So sad to see people who think highlighting everything you can interact with is a good idea, freedom is bad, and a quest compass is good. These guys DO NOT get it, sorry.

You know what spoils everything? Arbitrary moral compases.

 

[evdk]

Just getting into this. Looks pretty good and I like the diallogue, but I can see it's going to be 'cliick on shiny icons, talk to some dudes, kill some dudes'. Going on Very Hard.

I commend your foresight. It is very much so.

 

[Nael]

Just getting into this. Looks pretty good and I like the diallogue, but I can see it's going to be 'cliick on shiny icons, talk to some dudes, kill some dudes'. Going on Very Hard.

Do it. I suck at games and very hard is just enough of a challenge to not make it a snooze fest. I might turn it down if I go pure decker on another character but as a shotgun toting shaman it's pretty easy. Only had problems with one fight so far and honestly it was my own dumb fault when the way to win should have been obvious.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Seriously, they don't get it at all. I remember playing the SNES game as I moved to Montreal, a metropolis I had never lived in. I went out a lot at night and played the game in the same days. It really felt eerie to me, the parallels were really obvious. As Jake I really got into it. To this day, when I go to Montreal, it's late and I walk by the same spots, I still choke out of nostalgia. The game wasn't that good, but it got the feeling right. The Cyberpunk 2020 crerator said the genre was about getting lost and finding yourself in an oppressive place that is full of dangers and shady characters, and this is the vibe that the game had. I get nearly semi teary eyed when I listen to the morgue music.

Now it is ruined, it is a series of meta comments like "Hey look at how Shadowrunny this is! Isn't that cool, man?"

 

[Sensuki]

So far Very Hard has been Very Easy, but I have had to use some consumables.

 

[crawlkill]

=The whole point of these games was being a shadowrunner lost in a weird, oppressive town full of dangers lurking about. Do they really expect us to feel the same when treating the player like a kindergardener?

Uh...Shadowrun in all its forms has always been one of the more directed, 'mission-oriented' RPGs. Its mission orientation is built into its title. The name of the game is 'missiongoing.'

It only bugs me that I can't access my stash and vendors between every scene.

 

[Nael]

=The whole point of these games was being a shadowrunner lost in a weird, oppressive town full of dangers lurking about. Do they really expect us to feel the same when treating the player like a kindergardener?

Uh...Shadowrun in all its forms has always been one of the more directed, 'mission-oriented' RPGs. Its mission orientation is built into its title. The name of the game is 'missiongoing.'

It only bugs me that I can't access my stash and vendors between every scene.

I actually thought that gave the game an interesting wrinkle as far as effectively planning your missions. /shrug

 

[Ulminati]

Well, I had my first NPC character death. Telestrian building. Decker mook took fireballs to the face while jacked in. Fortunately he had finished his part of the run. Also had both my drones disabled, used every grenade, my trauma kit and 3 medkits. On very hard. Was pretty fun.

 

[MessiahMan]

Alright, requests for my Steam keys is definitely closed. I've selected my two, and if you weren't one of those two, well...better luck next time. I'm off to play my copy of Shadowrun returns...that YOU DON'T HAVE!

 

[Tigranes]

I restarted and put points in Intelligence and Willpower, mostly. With 3 WP and corresponding points I don't have any spells, and I don't know how to learn them. Teaches me for not reading any pre-release material. Oh well. I'll figure it out.

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

Hey guys, how do I install datacjack? I have the money and access to the facility but nothing happens when I try to add it to my character:

 

[DalekFlay]

I restarted and put points in Intelligence and Willpower, mostly. With 3 WP and corresponding points I don't have any spells, and I don't know how to learn them. Teaches me for not reading any pre-release material. Oh well. I'll figure it out.

The first magic salesman is pretty early on, soon as you get to the bar.

 

[DalekFlay]

Hey guys, how do I install datacjack? I have the money and access to the facility but nothing happens when I try to add it to my character:

Click where it says datajack on the right, to install it there.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Do you know if Weissman has some grudge against Steve Jackson? Is there some bad blood between them? I'm saying this because:

It can't be a coincidence, Stevie J, and check the hair, beard, moustache and general face type. And this guy is a drug dealer, snuff film maker and one of the minor bosses. Maybe is a friendly stab at the competition?

Fake edit: Some reference.

This picture is more recent, but I remember some pictures from the 90's and Jackson had that same hairdo.

 

[Deuce Traveler]

Everytime I use print screen in my Steam version of this game, it doesn't take a picture of my game, but instead the desktop behind it. Odd that.... Anyway, I am playing a human decker right now and just finished the first battle. I'll get the Cons out of the way before the Pros:

Cons:
- No Latin portraits for male humans. : x I went with the bald asian dude instead. Represent.

Ok, now that I have that out of the way...

Pros:

- It truly is turn-based and tactical and not some hybrid system. I'm pretty happy about that. And the tactical combat has been decent so far. Cover is important, and so are tactics used in order to draw off and isolate opponents, and knowing when to use a hand grenades and such. The enemy AI seems to react to your actions, although I'm not sure how smart it is yet. I'm interested in seeing how the AI handles combat when its NPCs have healing packs, grenades, and so forth on them.

- The user interface is pretty intuitive. I haven't had to open the manual yet. I probably should do so anyway.

- I like the vibe. The mood does feel like Shadowrun. Or Neuromancer at any rate. Some people complained about the music, but it seems appropriately techy to me.

 

[Ulminati]

I restarted and put points in Intelligence and Willpower, mostly. With 3 WP and corresponding points I don't have any spells, and I don't know how to learn them. Teaches me for not reading any pre-release material. Oh well. I'll figure it out.

Once you get into the Seamstress union, there's a troll in the Vip lounge that sells coonjuration fetishes and smell formulae

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

Hey guys, how do I install datacjack? I have the money and access to the facility but nothing happens when I try to add it to my character:

Click where it says datajack on the right, to install it there.

Derp... thanks!

 

[Smashing Axe]

What's the advantage of going human? I had a fiddle around with character creation, and noticed humans get an extra 3 karma points to spend. Do they get extra XP throughout the game, or only at creation? The description isn't in line with what humans actually get (says they only get 1 at creation).

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Crossposted from the other thread

Do you know if Weissman has some grudge against Steve Jackson? Is there some bad blood between them? I'm saying this because:

It can't be a coincidence, Stevie J, and check the hair, beard, moustache and general face type. And this guy is a drug dealer, snuff film maker and one of the minor bosses. Maybe is a friendly stab at the competition?

Fake edit: Some reference.

This picture is more recent, but I remember some pictures from the 90's and Jackson had that same hairdo.

 

[Ulminati]

God damn it, Harebrained studios. When I said

Spoiler

Harlequin asks you to join him for a game of Bridge

a few posts past, I didn't mean it literally. Drekkin' Immortal Elves.

 

[crawlkill]

Do you know if Weissman has some grudge against Steve Jackson? Is there some bad blood between them?

Backers are in the game as portraits. I don't know if he was one/if that's him, but it's totally possible.

What's the advantage of going human?

There isn't one. Elves are better than humans in all ways, unless you never buy a single point of Charisma. And even then it's questionable. It's one of those funny retro features of the system, races not being balanced. In tabletop a troll built with any brain at all can be almost completely bulletproof out of chargen.

 

[Skunkpew]

Do you know if Weissman has some grudge against Steve Jackson?

I'm guessing it's more likely one of those kickstarter reward things where people pay extra to have themselves as a character in the game. In fact, if you go to Steve Jackson's profile on kickstarter, he did back Shadowrun Returns

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Oh OK, then that's it. It was really amusing to see him as one of the baddies.

 

[crawlkill]

Oh OK, then that's it. It was really amusing to see him as one of the baddies.

Basically any time you see a picture that looks like a trace of a photo of a nerd tryina look badass, it's probably a backer photo. It's super adorable.

 

[crawlkill]

I just had my best experience of the game so far. I summoned a Death spirit (or, well, an "Apocalypse") from a bloody surgery table. He did sterling service for two turns then broke and went berserk, attacking someone I needed to defend. I spawned another Apocalypse who then just sat there and refused to do anything. Meanwhile, the enemy shaman lost control of her water elemental and spawned another one, which started to attack the original berserk water elemental. This actually--somehow--ended in a victory. I was a happy gay.