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Yea saving the world from immortal bugs was :M


Btw is it just me or are elves the best race? With them having high quickness and stuffies.
 
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Btw is it just me or are elves the best race? With them having high quickness and stuffies.
With the way melee is boned in this game, yeah. Dwarves with their high WIS make good mages, though.

Which reminds me: am I tripping or are troll enemies generally easier to hit? Would make sense, with their size, but I've seen no mention of it in the game.
 

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Had a chance to play some more today and got to the first mission where you hire runners. The game appears to be bugged because no mater who I highlight its hiring runners I dont want.... fucking hell :(


Use the plus sign next to each runner in order to ensure you get the one you want. I had that occur myself and went slightly bonkers as to why is the game trying to choose someone I don't want :/
 

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Which reminds me: am I tripping or are troll enemies generally easier to hit? Would make sense, with their size, but I've seen no mention of it in the game.


I've seen no mention but they most definitely yield higher hit % than anyone else. Sucks to be them I guess.
 

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MCA Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Codex USB, 2014 Divinity: Original Sin 2
is it just me or are elves the best race? With them having high quickness and stuffies.

Is there a Shadowrun edition of The Complete Book of Elves? It would probably say. :troll:

I imagined the bug thing was a lore tie-in with something in the pnp especially with the mention of Chicago, my problem wasn't so much with that, but the step in getting to that was that it was the crazy bug shaman wanted to give her mother a Christian burial that lead to your involvement. (Or was it the brother killing the mother and harvesting her organs for himself and to sell that got you involved or was that just the ramblings of the bug fuck crazy sister). I'm fine with peeling layers off a conspiracy and getting get dragged deeper and deeper, or it just turning out to be an unrelated coincidence, but it seems like cheating to have it be both at the same time. It's like they were coming up with stories they had the dead man switch story with an ending they didn't like, and a bug invasion story with a beginning they didn't like, so they tied the parts they did like together with the sister character.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Finally finished the damn thing.

Really, Only the last mission gave me any headache on Very Hard. And that's wrong, considering my awesum skills.
Fun while it lasted though, yeah.
 

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Re: the story, someone ought to ask Michael Stackpole what his contribution to this was so we can have a better idea of what to expect for Wasteland 2. :)
 

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Finished the game, took me 10 hours over 3 days. It was somewhat disappointing, but I would lie if I said I didn't have fun while playing it (I particularly enjoyed the segment which forced you to defend the decker while he's trying to gather intel).

I must say that I, too, enjoyed the first part of the story much more; the transition between the "chapters" felt rather jarring. It was as if you were suddenly playing a different module altogether (and yeah, writing quality actually drops, I reckon). The whole affair really did feel like a PnP game session, with a GM and all - which I enjoyed quite a bit. What was disappointing, however, was that it played more like an adventure game with some RPG elements, which felt a bit tacked on at times (i.e. etiquettes).

I won't enumerate the oft repeated flaws - but I think they have is a solid foundation - if they can build upon it we could get a genuine cRPG contender out of it. Though I suppose for that happen they'd need to focus on developing the game for PCs, tablets be damned (yeah, fat chance, I know). The Berlin campaign should tell us more, it's supposedly more open-ended.

If not that, there's a chance we might see some user created content of high quality in the near future. Either way, money well spent.
 

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Tip: Don't combine rigger and decker. Decker has to be the most useless class in this campaign. He has only a single worthwhile skill outside combat, which is admittedly pretty good, but has a too low hit rate and the possibilities to have him in the matrix or use his out of combat skills are extremely limited. Even in the long ass matrix mission, you can only have a single decker inside at the time, which is a fucking disgrace.

Furthermore, when you are in the matrix, you lose control over your drones. I should have understood this, but I didn't before it is was too late. So again, never invest points in both rigging and decking, even though it seems tempting.
 

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It's rather cheap karmawise to go rigger+decker since they both feed off INT. Droids do all the work outside matrix, you do all the work inside. It's really not a bad combo, and if you want a main character with decking for some reason, it's probably the best one there is.
 

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Rigger+decker is a solid combo, you get extra money gathering intel and can skip a few fights and boring puzzles, you will have the best decker to finish these missions (I had all programs level 3 when Dodger came in, compared to my character he sucked big), and in combat you mark targets and shoot two drones.
 

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I somehow managed to miss this Dodger guy, I assume that was who the janitor was talking about. Anyway, I was the only one in Matrix, roflstomped it. Coyote with her shotgun just blasted off pretty much everything that came through those doors.
 

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I somehow managed to miss this Dodger guy, I assume that was who the janitor was talking about. Anyway, I was the only one in Matrix, roflstomped it. Coyote with her shotgun just blasted off pretty much everything that came through those doors.
Dodger sucks ass.
 

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Coyote with her shotgun just blasted off pretty much everything that came through those doors.

Is it just me, or are shotguns incredibly amazing in this game? Strong, can hit multiple targets and that attack that reduces AP can make strong guys that can take several hits stop in their tracks. The only real drawback is friendly fire, but that's not really an issue unless you use melee guys.

Then again, I beat the game on hard with a pistol-wielding decker.
 

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Yeah I came to appreciate them too. Maybe the best weapon in the game, but I never maxed any of the weapons, only played shaman and that decker/rigger so far, so can't say how they hold up to stuff like double tap ect.
 

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My PC was heavily specc'd in a rifle while I had an runner with 6 points in shotguns. Rifle seems to have better accuracy on farther distance whereas with shotgun guy, even accuracy buffed by quickness +1, aim +18% and eagle totem +15% couldn't really match (it stayed on 70-80%). But yeah. Overwatch with a shotgun burst = gg for any charging in. Then again, rifle does high damage to single target too.
 

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A katana is nearly as good as a shotgun, especially the hand-forged one. With a good melee maniac it drains AP every time it hits. With the Four AP you get out by endgame it's damn good.
 

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I have a question about cyberware. I bought two implants that reduced essence by 2+1.5, and interface displayed 2(2.5) essence after operation. I assumed that I would have 2 essence for all purposes except for installing new implants but I'm now stuck on 2 essence even for installing new implants. For example if I want to install datajack it would leave me with 1(1.5) essence and even more frustrating is that if I upgrade my body implant which cost 1.5 essence to a new one that costs 1 it would leave me with 2(2.5) essence or in other words it would do nothing. Furthermore the game won't let me upgrade my leg implant probably because I have two leg slots one of which is empty.

So all implants that reduce essence by X.5 are practically the same as one that reduce by the whole number unless you install another X.5 implant at the same time. Is this a bug or by design? Or maybe I'm missing something?
 

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I have a question about cyberware. I bought two implants that reduced essence by 2+1.5, and interface displayed 2(2.5) essence after operation. I assumed that I would have 2 essence for all purposes except for installing new implants but I'm now stuck on 2 essence even for installing new implants. For example if I want to install datajack it would leave me with 1(1.5) essence and even more frustrating is that if I upgrade my body implant which cost 1.5 essence to a new one that costs 1 it would leave me with 2(2.5) essence or in other words it would do nothing. Furthermore the game won't let me upgrade my leg implant probably because I have two leg slots one of which is empty.

So all implants that reduce essence by X.5 are practically the same as one that reduce by the whole number unless you install another X.5 implant at the same time. Is this a bug or by design? Or maybe I'm missing something?
As far as I can tell, the game doesn't display decimals in the amount of essence you have left, so it sometimes displays the wrong number even though functionally you still have that amount, and you can never go below 1 essence.
 

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Pistol + decker combo destroyed normal mode. You get free reloads and super high accuracy, so you can pump 3-4 rounds into anyone from far away and kill anyone you want at any time, basically. She was better at killing things than the pure samurai runners I hired.
 

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As far as I can tell, the game doesn't display decimals in the amount of essence you have left, so it sometimes displays the wrong number even though functionally you still have that amount, and you can never go below 1 essence.

Thanks for the replay, I will try to install new implant later and post about results. But i think that it's a bug that I can't upgrade/replace my leg implant because it wouldn't go below 1 essence but because I have one leg slot empty implant is grayed out (it would go below 1 essence if I install it in empty slot).
 

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Wow, what the fuck

Three replays and I missed the Matrix jack-in point in the Renraku lab raid :what:
 

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I only did 2 but still missed it both times. Just as I missed the one in hospital both times. Just like how I missed the medkit in the tutorial. I think you even get to keep it if you pick it up.
 

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