Atlus Shin Megami Tensei V - It's been hurting my OCD.

[Humanity has risen!]

Played a couple hours. The only thing I don't like is the protagonist visuals. Other than that, it's the exact Nocturne modernization I hoped for. A strange, moody and solitary experience, with a great combat to boot.

No it's not, it's more like Monster Hunter meets SMT. Scouring a desert and grinding for endless items sucks ass.

There are even plenty of MMO side quests. These in my opinion, do absolutely nothing but pad out the game and cheapen the experience.

Nocturne was considerably better, it especially nailed the atmosphere to absolute perfection. Some of the music and cutscenes were genuinely spooky.

This however does not. It's a huge disappointment.

 

[Anonymous Wife Scholar]

Some weird mishmash of decisions - the pacing of the opening was really weird like some kind of truncated Youtube montage, but music/sound in particular helps really convey the SMT themes.

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[lightbane]

How's the dialogue in SMTV? Is there an use of that fake pronoun "they" so blatantly shoe-horned everywhere nowadays? I saw a video where a Jack Frost uses "they" to talk about a clearly female demon stalking him.

 

[Puukko]

Oh yeah that stuck out to me which is decline, and I came across a typo or two. I like that they kept all the personalities though and there's lots of variety in the conversations. Some demons seem to combine personalities, like Forneus acts like a toughass sometimes but other times he might be a fogey.

I really like the look of the Fiends too and the JP VA is really deep and you can tell he had fun with it. Hell Biker makes a hilarious motorbike impression when you fuse him. The battle theme is a remix that's not as bombastic as the original and I do prefer that but I understand why they didn't just remake the same theme for like the fifth time with slight variation.

 

[Sentinel]

How's the dialogue in SMTV? Is there an use of that fake pronoun "they" so blatantly shoe-horned everywhere nowadays? I saw a video where a Jack Frost uses "they" to talk about a clearly female demon stalking him.

"They" isn't a fake pronoun. Even before trannies appropriated it it was already gramatically correct to refer to someone whose sex you didn't know as "they". That might explain Jack Frost's use of it.
As far as the MC goes, despite looking like a tranny, he gets called "YOUNG MAN"/he every conversation.

 

[lightbane]

it it was already gramatically correct to refer to someone whose sex you didn't know as "they".

As far as I remember, the default pronoun for these cases was "he", or even "it". At one point it was turned into "she", later "they". You know the rest.

As far as the MC goes, despite looking like a tranny, he gets called "YOUNG MAN"/he every conversation.

It seems so, which seems to piss off the freaks which is hilarious.

By the way, I remember seeing slow downs during the game trailers, especially during fusions. Is that an issue for real hardware? What about the emulator?
What is the "standard" FPS rate before modifications?

 

[Puukko]

He gets called shounen in JP in similar fashion so I guess young man is the most appropriate translation.

 

[Sentinel]

As far as I remember, the default pronoun for these cases was "he", or even "it". At one point it was turned into "she", later "they". You know the rest.

"it" is used for animals/objects, not for people. Using it for a person is basically implying they aren't human. I hope you've never used it while trying to be polite to anyone.

 

[lightbane]

As far as I remember, the default pronoun for these cases was "he", or even "it". At one point it was turned into "she", later "they". You know the rest.

"it" is used for animals/objects, not for people. Using it for a person is basically implying they aren't human. I hope you've never used it while trying to be polite to anyone.

I don't live in an English-speaking region, so I don't have to worry about that. Also, some people could as well not be considered human, but that's not the issue here.

 

[Puukko]

 

[Tigranes]

The demon chatter seems decent so far. Genuine rage whenever you talk to a Mokoi or something and they fob you off with some bullshit reason.

Interestingly, sometimes you talk to the same demon in the same battle multiple times and they give you the same question - but not always?? Insistent recruiting has definitely got me party wiped a couple times. Escape chance also seems low unless you pump AGI (?)

 

[Sentinel]

The question doesn't really matter because in my experience the correct answer is completely random. I've gotten the same question multiple times and the answer changed everytime.

 

[Puukko]

I've followed the exact same line of answers with the same demon multiple times and it has always led to negotiation. I wonder if luck affects a demon's chances to flip you off at that point. They usually don't take "pick something else" for an answer more than once, except in some rare cases they do, or may immediately call off the negotiations if you tell them that.

At least I haven't had it happen to me yet where a demon roasts you for just saying yes to all their demands. Which game was that again... SJ? Raidou?

 

[lightbane]

Demons are fickle, so it's excused if their behaviour is completely RNG during negotiations. Are there skills that alter these like in Nocturne?

 

[Matador]

I've followed the exact same line of answers with the same demon multiple times and it has always led to negotiation. I wonder if luck affects a demon's chances to flip you off at that point. They usually don't take "pick something else" for an answer more than once, except in some rare cases they do, or may immediately call off the negotiations if you tell them that.

At least I haven't had it happen to me yet where a demon roasts you for just saying yes to all their demands. Which game was that again... SJ? Raidou?

If i remember correctly that could happen also in Nocturne. The demon chick treated you as a loser provider and go away with all your resources.

 

[Hobo Elf]

The conversation stuff is more akin to rolling dice with funny flavor than trying to follow through logical dialogue paths. Sometimes a set of answers will make a demon attack you, sometimes giving the same demon the same answers will make them join you.

Demons are fickle, so it's excused if their behaviour is completely RNG during negotiations. Are there skills that alter these like in Nocturne?

No skills, but my guess is that mid-game you'll get a Miracle that helps you recruit demons. SMT4/A didn't have any recruitment skills either but it had COMP Apps that are similar to Miracles and they had recruitment boni passives. Stuff like if you foible a negotiation you can retry again, if you succeed at recruiting a demon the other demons in the same fight will also join you, etc.

 

[Anonona]

The conversation stuff is more akin to rolling dice with funny flavor than trying to follow through logical dialogue paths. Sometimes a set of answers will make a demon attack you, sometimes giving the same demon the same answers will make them join you.


No skills, but my guess is that mid-game you'll get a Miracle that helps you recruit demons. SMT4/A didn't have any recruitment skills either but it had COMP Apps that are similar to Miracles and they had recruitment boni passives. Stuff like if you foible a negotiation you can retry again, if you succeed at recruiting a demon the other demons in the same fight will also join you, etc.

Not that much of a spoiler, still in the second area of the game, just found something that is kind of relevant.

Spoiler

I found a magatsuhi skill that allowed you to make 2 mistakes in demon negotiation. Is granted by the amulet for the Jirae family of demon

 

[Endemic]

 

[tet666]

60 fps + LOD mods now with 2K shadows:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...503255959207946/SMTV_2k_Shadow_Collection.zip

credit goes to sandvich from the yuzu discord

 

[d1r]

I think this is one of the most balanced SMT's out there.

HARD is hard, the boss fights are great, the trash mobs still remain dangerous in the later areas, and I am still using items like crazy. Health points of the demons and the protag don't go crazy early on and they reworked a lot of items (Muscle Drinks are great now!) and skills that were kinda over the top or useless in the earlier iterations. I still have no idea what to make out of the story, either there will be a huge fucking twist at the midpoint of the game, or the story was really just an afterthought this time around.

The overworld exploration tracks are the absolute highlight of the game so far, imo.

 

[Tigranes]

Welp, got to big story boss, dude gets in one regular attack against MC without any bonuses/maluses, and it's a 1HKO + reload. Good times.

Spoiler

Nuwa's standard Force attack vs level 20 MC. Might have to chuck 2k gold to get Force resist essence.

 

[Puukko]

60 fps + LOD mods now with 2K shadows:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...503255959207946/SMTV_2k_Shadow_Collection.zip

credit goes to sandvich from the yuzu discord

Now give us better demon LODs and it'll be about as good as it can get with what's there.

 

[Tigranes]

Welp, got to big story boss, dude gets in one regular attack against MC without any bonuses/maluses, and it's a 1HKO + reload. Good times.

Spoiler

Nuwa's standard Force attack vs level 20 MC. Might have to chuck 2k gold to get Force resist essence.

My god, OK, I am very glad that fight finished where it did.

 

[Puukko]

I had prepared my anus for more.

 

[Sentinel]

Credits still not posted anywhere. Fucking hell.