Skyrim VR is pretty incredible.

[rusty_shackleford]

Kind of want to buy VR for desktop purposes so I can just lay in bed all day tbh

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

What else have you played in VR other than Skyrim?

I've played a lot so far. Some free apps like Google Earth VR and Discovery VR are very impressive and cool. That's how I explored Poland, saw the pyramids in Egypt and more with Google Earth VR. I've also toyed with some adult games, just to see what they're like, like Love Room VR and VR Kanojo. Kinda silly stuff. Also got a subscription to Viveport which lets you pick 5 games each month for $8.99, picked up a really cool one called Summer Funland which is like an awesome theme park game with roller coasters, minigames, rides that really immerse you in them and more. Also grabbed a space documentary there. I played a bit of Nature Treks VR which is a relaxing game in beautiful environments, and Ocean Rift which is a somewhat terrifying underwater exploration game if you're afraid of open water like I am. But they're all really immersive and interesting, even the simple shooting gallery and race games in Summer Funland. Also checked out some roller coaster games, which are also pretty fun, and a few others. I'm waiting on my joystick to arrive to delve into Elite Dangerous in VR, which I heard is quite awesome and also terrifying as everything is built to scale. That's one thing in VR, big things are actually BIG and can be intimidating. I'm not about to try to swim with sharks or do anything like that in the ocean games.

The experience is still awe-inspiring a week or two after using it. Haven't delved into Skyrim VR enough yet because I want to do a Let's Play for it, roleplaying as a Khajiit Agent. There's a lot of fun little stuff to check out on Viveport, which is like the VR version of Steam. Want to get Fallout 4 VR eventually too, when I have more time to play it.

 

[Theldaran]

So, I bullseyed with VR Kanojo??? Figures, man!!!

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

WTF does VR do to a game anyway?

VR just makes it seem like you're right there. It's hard to explain but the game world completely surrounds you in every direction, and there's a huge sense of scale, depth, long distances, size and so on.

 

[YldriE]

I suppose the difference in features is as big as the difference in price with these ten-dollar helmets where you put your phone? I got to try one but I found it absolutely underwhelming, even with a rollercoaster game or a rail-shooter with motion sensor controls. It was just... not remarkable.

Am I VR-resistant or are the two systems way too different to draw a conclusion?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I suppose the difference in features is as big as the difference in price with these ten-dollar helmets where you put your phone? I got to try one but I found it absolutely underwhelming, even with a rollercoaster game or a rail-shooter with motion sensor controls. It was just... not remarkable.

Am I VR-resistant or are the two systems way too different to draw a conclusion?

not even remotely the same

 

[ultra loser]

$1500 I think.

I'm not into that vr fad at all so I don't know what's the difference but why not buy that soystation vr and connect it to pc? Should be at least a few times less expensive.

 

[Theldaran]

$1500 I think.

I'm not into that vr fad at all so I don't know what's the difference but why not buy that soystation vr and connect it to pc? Should be at least a few times less expensive.

It should also be pretty shit. Turns out there's a reason why PSVR cost 400 bucks (and going down).

 

[anvi]

The early VR is pretty lacking, and Skyrim is super lacking so this sounds like a shit sandwich. But I'm glad you are having fun.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Yeah, the Oculus and PS4 stuff are much lower quality than the set I got. I got the HTC Vive Pro which I think is the best one you can buy. The resolution is a lot higher than any other headsets and I figured if I'm going in with VR I might as well go all in. I wouldn't even consider getting a PS4 VR or Oculus for that reason. And I wouldn't call it shit until you actually try it. It's really something.

It might be hard to believe but it really feels like you're there. If the air was cold around me I'd swear I was really in a snowstorm in Skyrim, or flying down a roller coaster if there was wind in my face. It's not perfect but it's really damn good. I'd recommend anyone to at least try the HTC Vive Pro sometime if they can and decide for themselves if it's for them. Even my mom loves it and she probably uses it more than I do. She says it's the most mindblowing thing she's ever seen in her life and her jaw constantly drops over it, and she's 67 years old. It is pretty remarkable.

It's also not a fad, it's the future of gaming IMO.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

When you see a dragon in Skyrim, it's head is about as big as a car, if not bigger. The thing itself is the size of a house, and you SEE it as the size of a house, as if you're there. When a bandit charges at you, it seems like it's really coming at you, and you can swing or shoot fire in his face or a bow and arrow (which has realistic aiming, you knock your arrow and aim with the controllers like a real bow). When a wolf jumps in your face it is scary as heck if you aren't ready for it. So are other things that can surprise you, like an ugly skeleton or spider. NPCs you talk to look directly in your eyes, bartenders will follow you around with their eyes, the NPC graphics are a lot better and the characters look more realistic. You can see the dirt on their clothes and arms, and pick up many details that you probably missed on the PC version because you're actually there in first-person seeing everything. Houses are the size of real houses as if you're walking around a neighborhood. Bleak Falls is really creepy and seems like you're really in a cave. Audio is 360 so it comes from all angles, you can hear something walking up behind you or to the side of you. It's a really immersive experience.

 

[anvi]

It is definitely the future. But I wont buy it until:

1) The screens are bigger so you can move your eyes without seeing the edges of the screens.
2) The dpi/resolution gets better so the screendoor effect is gone.
3) A single graphics card capable of running two 4k screens at >60fps is under about $500.
4) The sickness thing is a lot better or preferably gone completely.
5) The only cable going into the headset is a thin one like a USB cable, rather than a big thick stiff power lead.
6) There are some good games that aren't gimmicky ipad crap or a modified version of Bethesda shit.

I look forward to buying one in about 30 years, on my deathbed.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

It is definitely the future. But I wont buy it until:

1) The screens are bigger so you can move your eyes without seeing the edges of the screens.
2) The dpi/resolution gets better so the screendoor effect is gone.
3) A single graphics card capable of running two 4k screens at >60fps is under about $500.
4) The sickness thing is a lot better or preferably gone completely.
5) The only cable going into the headset is a thin one like a USB cable, rather than a big thick stiff power lead.
6) There are some good games that aren't gimmicky ipad crap or a modified version of Bethesda shit.

I look forward to buying one in about 30 years, on my deathbed.

Just for fun
1 - The screens are plenty big, and the field of view is quite wide.
2 - The resolution is not bad at all. You can crank it up also depending on your graphics card.
3 - Yeah, that would be sweet.
4 - What sickness? Motion sickness in Skyrim was because the character moves too fast. Turn it down and you're golden. Also, it takes about an hour or two of total usage to get your VR Legs and then any sickness is completely gone for good.
5 - You can get a wireless adapter like I'm doing. It's an antenna that makes the headset wireless.
6 - Agreed, but more games will be coming once people catch up on how cool the device is. So I'm sure we'll see many more interesting ones coming soon.

 

[Sykar]

I'd rather play Daggerfall on a vintage 14 inch monitor.

 

[Doktor Best]

Yeah, the Oculus and PS4 stuff are much lower quality than the set I got. I got the HTC Vive Pro which I think is the best one you can buy. The resolution is a lot higher than any other headsets and I figured if I'm going in with VR I might as well go all in. I wouldn't even consider getting a PS4 VR or Oculus for that reason. And I wouldn't call it shit until you actually try it. It's really something.

It might be hard to believe but it really feels like you're there. If the air was cold around me I'd swear I was really in a snowstorm in Skyrim, or flying down a roller coaster if there was wind in my face. It's not perfect but it's really damn good. I'd recommend anyone to at least try the HTC Vive Pro sometime if they can and decide for themselves if it's for them. Even my mom loves it and she probably uses it more than I do. She says it's the most mindblowing thing she's ever seen in her life and her jaw constantly drops over it, and she's 67 years old. It is pretty remarkable.

It's also not a fad, it's the future of gaming IMO.

I have tested all 3 first generation headsets and no, the other two options are definitely not "much lower quality". The vive pro has a higher resolution, yes, but in most cases the increase in display quality is miniscule as you have to dial back antialiasing because your computer cant handle the higher perfomance requirements anymore.

Image quality is currently mainly restricted by hardware, not by resolution.

Vive pro is the heaviest of all headsets, which means you get tired of wearing it way sooner than the rift, it has a less comfortable headstrap unless you pay extra for a custom made one that is basically a copy of the basic rift headstrap, its motion controllers are not as good as the rift touch controllers and worst of all it sadly has the worst lenses by far, leading to blurry image on the edges of your eyesight and god rays that are even worse than on the rift.

The best lenses are actually those of the PSVR, which is still the worst headset sadly because of the low resolution of the screens, shitty image quality due to the lacking power of the playstation and shitty playstation move tracking. But still, the lense technology itself is absolutely great and its baffling how Sony can sell a 200 dollar product with an image clafity that is so much superior to even the vive pro.

The best headset that is currently on the market is by far the pimax, which would be the only worthy upgrade to the rift currently imho, as it has a much higher field of view and is the only headset with real 4k screens. It will take quite some time until you can power them sufficiently though.

The vive also has its advantages, especially if you want to go roomscale. But in my opinion, if you pay 1.5k for a premium headset, you should be able to expect the best in everything, which the vive clearly is not delivering.

I hope this doesnt sound like i am trying to ruin your fun. The vive pro still is a good headset. But if you really want the best of the best and money is no concern, you might want to take a look at the Pimax.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

I have a 1080ti and so far I've been able to use supersampling AA and crank up the resolution past the suggested amount in the settings for most games, Skyrim included. When I get a new PC (thinking of building one for VR soon) I'll consider getting another 1080ti (do they still use SLI?) or just upgrading to a 2080ti or something. Once I get something that can power the Pimax I'll check it out then. Thanks for the info, I do appreciate it. I'm enjoying the Vive a lot so far and wouldn't really want to see anything with lower resolution. If both screens on the Pimax are 4K, that's pretty awesome. I'll enjoy what I have for awhile until it's time to upgrade and then give it a look.

 

[anvi]

1 - The screens are plenty big, and the field of view is quite wide.
2 - The resolution is not bad at all. You can crank it up also depending on your graphics card.
3 - Yeah, that would be sweet.
4 - What sickness? Motion sickness in Skyrim was because the character moves too fast. Turn it down and you're golden. Also, it takes about an hour or two of total usage to get your VR Legs and then any sickness is completely gone for good.
5 - You can get a wireless adapter like I'm doing. It's an antenna that makes the headset wireless.
6 - Agreed, but more games will be coming once people catch up on how cool the device is. So I'm sure we'll see many more interesting ones coming soon.

That sounds promising. I nearly bought the Vive actually but the number 6 was the killer for me. I need a new good open world shooty game like STALKER but in VR, a good action FPS (Halflife 3 -.-), some good RPG like Skyrim but not dumb and let me shoot magic with my hands or let me fight like real sword fighting, and some cool RTS and tabletop games to lean in and look at. (Someone needs to resurrect Supreme Commander). If there is some stuff like that, I'll get it even with less than perfect hardware. But so far I can barely get any of those experiences VR or not.

The number 1 I read is not as good as the Rift and it can harm immersion if you look up or down with your eyes and see the edge of the screen. And left and right. Number 2 I don't care that much about because I have slight fuzziness in my vision if I don't wear glasses so I am thinking it would obscure any screen door. The sickness was a turn off because a lot of people were talking about it. But I've seen others say it goes away after a while too.

 

[Puteo]

I wouldn't bother at all with this generation of VR if you aren't going with the Rift. It's by far the cheapest PCVR system with by far the best controllers and leading to slightly behind in every other aspect.

Plus, any other system removes your ability to play about 80% of the best VR games right now without an experience-ruining compatibility layer. If you're missing out on Echo Combat, Echo Arena, or Lone Echo why even bother with VR unless you're super into Skyrim porn mods or Elite dangerous long-haul-trucking?

You can argue about which multi-billionaire asshole running the show is a bigger asshole than the other billionaire asshole but at the end of the day the difference is several hundred dollars more coming out of your pocket for a lesser experience.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

With ReVive you can play Lone Echo and any Oculus Rift games on the HTC Vive Pro and they're basically plug and play. I got it mainly for Skyrim and Elite Dangerous but I wanted the highest resolution set I could find and it fit the bill (minus the Pimax, which I have to research further).

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

That sounds promising. I nearly bought the Vive actually but the number 6 was the killer for me. I need a new good open world shooty game like STALKER but in VR, a good action FPS (Halflife 3 -.-), some good RPG like Skyrim but not dumb and let me shoot magic with my hands or let me fight like real sword fighting, and some cool RTS and tabletop games to lean in and look at. (Someone needs to resurrect Supreme Commander). If there is some stuff like that, I'll get it even with less than perfect hardware. But so far I can barely get any of those experiences VR or not.

The number 1 I read is not as good as the Rift and it can harm immersion if you look up or down with your eyes and see the edge of the screen. And left and right. Number 2 I don't care that much about because I have slight fuzziness in my vision if I don't wear glasses so I am thinking it would obscure any screen door. The sickness was a turn off because a lot of people were talking about it. But I've seen others say it goes away after a while too.

Well VR right now has a few cool experiences, not tons, but the stuff that's there can be cool. I just downloaded Earthflight: Spacewalk and it was the most stunning yet terrifying thing I've seen in my life. An actual NASA compiled space sim where you have to do a spacewalk and fix something on the outside of the space station. Floating around I couldn't get my bearings, it felt like I was really in space. I had to exit the game once the airlock opened because it was too terrifying, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

Nothing harming immersion with the lenses. I want to get a pair of contacts though so I don't have to use my glasses with it. It works with glasses fine, but I don't like how my glasses have glare and smudge a lot, so gotta get those contacts. The sickness does go away and it really only triggers during fast sequences, like on a roller coaster or using Skyrim's default walking speed (which is a bit faster than the speed of sound). And you do get your "VR legs" after awhile, but I still turned down the walking speed because it was ridiculous. I also don't notice a lot of the screen door effect and some games are just flat out beautiful to look at. If you have a 1080ti you can up the supersampling and resolution percentages too, giving you a nicer image. Default is very nice though, I'm not complaining.

 

[Dexter]

Btw. Skyrim VR is supposedly also slowly turning into an actual Full Feature VR game, not because Bethesda or the port studio they hired to develop the VR version kept at it implementing features, but because Modders are still at it improving the game.

Earlier this year a Mod released for better physical hand interaction and being able to pick up and handle objects that also introduced Half Life: Alyx's hand-flicking gesture to pick up objects from afar: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/43930

Hand Interaction and Gravity Gloves for Skyrim (HIGGS) VR adds some much-needed VR mechanics to Skyrim VR. This mod:

• Adds collision to the player's hands
• Lets you pick up and throw objects with both hands (actually hold them in your hands, as opposed to the springy distant grab that exists in the vanilla game), and put them into your inventory by placing them over your shoulder
• Lets you pull objects towards you with gravity gloves-style mechanics.
• Lets you pick up and move bodies, which is a feature missing from the base game
• Lets you loot armor off of bodies by pulling it off

Earlier today someone released a map+compass combo to be able to bypass the ingame map screen: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/47174

There's several Guides here: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimvr/
They have some sort of Google Docs Master document that is being updated: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qbh7GE30xLyso7MA6u3xpNJNdL5r2V2WP8SjZ4VpHLQ/

 

[Sykar]

That looks quite amazing tbh. Shame that Bethderp is too retarded to make something this good.

 

[anvi]

The VR looks cool, shame about the game.