So, anyone playing League of Legends?

[Azael]

Next you are going to tell me that Nunu can jungle without runes and masteries too.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Pff. Well I have never played WW jungle to any degree because he seemed so boring so everything about him (except the no pressure until 6) part is news to me.

 

[Renegen]

The smurf grind is horrendous. I wasted all my free RP too on exp boosts that I of course abandoned after 20 straight AI games.

 

[HanoverF]

Did the fix/change the fact you can spam 3v3s and level fast, I don't know from experience I just heard that's how people were powerleveling smurfs.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I tried Critplank. In ranked of course, because I just had a huge winning streak with various Demacian heroes...

What do you against Elise? I had 40+ more CS, I bought Shiv as first item due to some guide on RoG, then I shot her a couple of times taking her to mb 60% health, then I forgot jungler exist, after that she bought chain vest and all I could do anymore is run (of course her being Elise she just caught me a lot of times). I started building my IE anyways because I had most CS in the game but I didn't realize they'd just bumrush me ignoring everything else, 60CS Ezreal complains to me about trying to KS with ult and then he thought I must lie when I say it's on CD even though you can clearly see it from the left of the screen. Ok whatever but what do you do against Elise, build Negatron after Shiv or earlier? I think I should have done that, I just foolishly believed I could outdamage her with a 40CS lead.

 

[Ulminati]

Critplank is shit once you get above 1100 GRUNKERs. You should pick another champion or build.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Well I read this guide, http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/24062-champion-guides-gangplank-edition

I thought it seems like a fun style and champion, basically I'm going to play mostly champions with some ranged harass spell that is Yorick, Pantheon, GP etc. to counter elisenidaleejayce and sometimes shitcroc + various demacian heroes. I wouldn't bother with anything else than Yorick if he wasn't up for rework.

@ Grunker : was it you who was foaming about Lissandra? So how has it gone? I think I like her more than Lux when my team is packing damage but little utility.

 

[Grunker]

I tried Critplank.

Cool, he can be real fun

In ranked of course

May you suffer hell's eternal scorn!

was it you who was foaming about Lissandra?

I liked her well enough, thought she was OK. Then they nerfed her hard. Now I dislike her. She can be good, but she needs telecommunication to be used well, I think.

Some pros like her in tournaments. Almost none will touch her in solo queue.

 

[Ulminati]

Lissandra doesn't pack enough of a punch to compete with other AP carries. Her cc is not strong enough to make up for the lack of burst, especially when you consider her short range. If you want a tanky-sustainy AP carry with decent damage and cc, go Morg instead.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I tried Critplank.

Cool, he can be real fun

In ranked of course

May you suffer hell's eternal scorn!

Normals are the place where 5 PD Xins troll, they're even worse than arams.

was it you who was foaming about Lissandra?

I liked her well enough, thought she was OK. Then they nerfed her hard. Now I dislike her. She can be good, but she needs telecommunication to be used well, I think.

Some pros like her in tournaments. Almost none will touch her in solo queue.

She lost 50 points of damage level 11 and 100 at level 16. While that's quite a bit of damage off maxed ult she got buffed elsewhere nicely. I'll give her another shot, I can always fall back on Lux if I get frustrated.

 

[Grunker]

She lost 50 points of damage level 11 and 100 at level 16

She lost the potential to burst champions, which is crucial for most mid laners in solo queue. Like I said, she played in tournaments where teams can take advantage of her strength. Good luck making e into enemy team -> ult yourself work with three or four random people

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I don't understand. Levels 1-10 she lost nothing, levels 11-15 she's down 50 damage and after that 100. Say you have 400 AP at level 18, you now do 2065 damage if everything hits, before you did 2165. Of course her ult is AOE, but if you hit many people it's probably better that it has 20% more slow than 100 more damage. If E doesn't hit which seems probable it's 1575 damage. With or without 100 more damage on her ult she had low burst to begin with, I don't see how her damage nerf changed anything.

 

[Renegen]

Don't let the meta influence you too much. There is this guy who plays AD Master Yi exclusively... as jungler. And he's Plat 2. If you're good, you're good. Gangplank is viable, it's just that farming the IE makes you useless in the mid-game I guess. The biggest thing I can recommend is to spam the same champion over and over and over, you will learn what builds and strategies are effective and have an impact on the outcome of the game.

edit: btw, don't take advice from VVinrar, he's a shit bronzie that doesn't know what he's talking about. And above all he and others of his ilk are content producers, not theorycrafters.

 

[Grunker]

^ I don't always agree with Renegen, but when I do, I agree completely... but then again, I already said this a few pages ago:

Just saw this:

Ugh I really can't be arsed to drill my strong characters again and again

Then you will never ascend. The pros repeat it time after time after time: The number 1 single-most important thing you can do to improve is have a very small selection of champions and play those until you hate the game, and then play them some more. Doesn't matter much which champions it is.

 

[bloodlover]

Finally I managed to buy Thresh. I played so little LoL recently that I still have the bonus IP from May or smth. Anywhore, retruning to the champ., he is really fun to play. I fuck up quite a lot with his E and keep forgetting to throw the lantern but I won 3 of my 4 games with him. I noticed that it's really easy for the carry to get kills too with him, opposed to other champs where I CC the shit out of the enemy and my adc farms.

Can't wait for the new rotation so all the retarded Leona players will be gone.

Also, does anyone know where I can see the Korean matches but with Eng. commentary?

 

[Renegen]

The matches are readily available, Monte Cristo does the english commentary on the OGN and they are popular enough to be on twitch live. A simply youtube search should do the trick.

 

[Azael]

Is it just me, or is jungle Mantheon in better shape this season than in S2? Played two games with him yesterday and his early ganks are as strong as ever, but I also felt like his clear wasn't as horribru as I remembered it. Fun champ, even if I was (at best) 50/50 when it came to my mandrops.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

His clear is maybe even more terrible but in a normal pull you don't take much damage from the first buff and after the second your level 3 gank is lethal.

Though maybe Elder Lizard will help his clearing and mana issues if you snowball enough to get it early on that he turns into a decent jungler. Also his single target nature isn't as great a hindrance as it was compared to other junglers.

Well I tested him a bit and he can jungle fine with 21/9 attack speed reds ms quints boots 4, go buff to buff and gank somebody.

 

[Renegen]

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but bigfatlp from CLG has already used Pantheon twice recently as a jungler. You gotta give it up to him for having the balls to play such a champion.

 

[uaciaut]

I tried Critplank. In ranked of course, because I just had a huge winning streak with various Demacian heroes...

What do you against Elise? I had 40+ more CS, I bought Shiv as first item due to some guide on RoG, then I shot her a couple of times taking her to mb 60% health, then I forgot jungler exist, after that she bought chain vest and all I could do anymore is run (of course her being Elise she just caught me a lot of times). I started building my IE anyways because I had most CS in the game but I didn't realize they'd just bumrush me ignoring everything else, 60CS Ezreal complains to me about trying to KS with ult and then he thought I must lie when I say it's on CD even though you can clearly see it from the left of the screen. Ok whatever but what do you do against Elise, build Negatron after Shiv or earlier? I think I should have done that, I just foolishly believed I could outdamage her with a 40CS lead.

Rush armorpen sooner, though Elise conceptually stays even with top champs even when she's behind because she technically needs to buy only magic pen to be effective and then she can go utility-defensive items. A good bet is to try and force her to get any other boot 2 than the mpen one though tabis is extremely effective vs GP. At the end of the day though GP just scales like shit all around so it's hard to do well with him unless you get off good roaming and snowball other lanes.

 

[Darth Roxor]

SWAAAAAAAAIN

I have no idea why I don't play the birdman more. There are very few things more friggin satisfying than a fed or generally late game Swain. And he's got the best emotes in the game. THAT'S RIGHT, SURROUND ME WITH MORE OF YOUR FEWLISH FOLK, YOUR TEARS ONLY FUEL ME.



(srsly needs an exclusive rune page with ad reds though )

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Yay, expensive ass skin doesn't make Udyr any better but playing him is more fun because he doesn't look like a dirty hobo in a stolen summer dress.



That was a good match, I learned new stuff.

1, Lee can 100-0 you under tower without taking any damage if he has damage items, ult and ignite at level 6, in a blink of an eye too, and he will always have ult because it has like no CD. I expect that from Zed but didn't know Lee does that too. Even still glass Lee is a shit hero in teamfights.
2, Wukong is a fucking strong ass champion that can turn lost games and comboing armor shreds is funny.
3, A perfect Xin initiation is gamebreaking, yeah fuck off electric rat you're not doing any AOE today get shot by teenage boy. I always knew his ult is powerful but my last dive was probably the best initiation I have ever done with any champ.
4, If you stubbornly build damage you get to farm faster and can still kill random stragglers like ADC's so it's not so black and white that you only build damage when you're ahead.
5, Solo Q players don't give a crap about armor penetration even when against Taric, it's "my build" that matters.

Anyway I have 35/14 (71,4%) with Xin now, I guess easymode heroes suit me best.

 

[PlanHex]

So... Riot gonna copy Valve and go for comics now?


Not that I blame them, TF2 is a money making machine. Spirit Udyr got nothing on Saxton Hale tho'

 

[Hellraiser]

A tiger is not the king of all the beasts, a lion is. ffs Riot!

Also they clearly have too many damn artists hired.

 

[insukk]

New TF passive incoming.

Also some talks about Warwick changes, but they will not land before end of season 3.