So, anyone playing League of Legends?

[Azael]

A black champ with a drive-by ult. Well played Riot, well played. Need a fried chicken and watermelon buff.

 

[Renegen]

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They nerfed Master Yi .... hard

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The new master Yi is a perfect example of the "new improved streamlined" Riot design approach, his passive procs more often but does less damage, Q does less damage and has no AP scaling, his W now has a C0UNT3RPLAY, his E doesn't give free AD anymore and his ult is more reliable but the steroids have been nerfed. Just ugh, good thing I didn't play him because they just butchered him.

 

[Darth Roxor]

You think Yi got it hard? LeBlanc got nerfed as fuck as well. Worse damage, CDs, CC and mana costs all over the board and only retains her old burst at lvl 16. Do those idiots at ffsRIOT even run the numbers through some basic comparison before they put out their "superior reworks"?

 

[Renegen]

The new Riot is pretty clear, every champion will be balanced by the fact your team will feed 50% of the time. Oh Draven too much early damage? Let's smooth out that curve. LB too much early game damage? let's smooth out that curve. Master Yi too much base damage? let's smooth out that curve. Your team doesn't feed, you get your items and feel powerful, your team feeds, you are useless. Balanced!

I can't wait for the Tryndamere rework, that 20 bonus AD at lvl 1 and a lucky crit in any early trade turns into an kill and then he snowballs ridiculously hard. When will those archaic designs get streamlined? haha never I bet.

And then you have Lucian, who genuinely looks exciting, has a diverse build path and that's something I didn't expect. Still what makes Lucian exciting is how average he is, but in many categories. AD caster kit, above average steroid on his passive, above average poke with Q, above average trading with W, above average mobility with E, above average AOE/nuke with his ult, above average mana costs.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Hmmm, I bought Quinn out of boredom and now I can't login on eupotato anymore

Guyses I think these two things might be related

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Huh. Well AP Yi was for total faggots anyway so now that that shit is deleted the game is purely improved. Probably everybody will be complaining about how OP he is when he's released, then he's forgotten again, seems to me Tryndamere still outshines the rest of the "melee ADC" crew simply with his ult.

Also fuck LeBlanc too, I mean they're nerfing Karthus Defile damage scaling by 5% that's the stuff that matters (Thresh getting significant nerf, yay, fuck that ranged tank bullshit).

 

[Ulminati]

Not only is Lucian's ultimate a drive-by shooting. His W procs Nike running shoes.

 

[Azael]

Hmmm, I bought Quinn out of boredom and now I can't login on eupotato anymore

Guyses I think these two things might be related

Yes, embrace your impulse shopper desires. Soon your journey to the darkside will be complete.

 

[Renegen]

Hmmm, I bought Quinn out of boredom and now I can't login on eupotato anymore

Guyses I think these two things might be related

Darth, I have the perfect Quinn build for you. I was on the PBE just to test drive Lucian and the Quinn.

This Quinn that I saw is diamond 1 and he builds her this way: 21-2-7, be sure to get item cooldown mastery in the utility tree. AD Quints, ADPen reds. Rush Cutlass, use it in every single trade since its CD is lower. Then rush Brutalizer, you will have 27 Penetration really early in lane. Brutalizer is a forgotten bot lane item that used to be built a few months ago, it's a lane dominance item except for this Quinn it's core. Quinn combined with those 2 items becomes the ultimate lane bully, old Draven would cry. Then turn them into BOTRK and Youmoo's Ghostblade, you read that right. Your final core is BOTRK, Youmoo's, Last Whisper and boots 2. 37 / 40% armor pen, burst AD Carry, every single squishy will die in 2 seconds. You can roam or split push or I guess teamfight ok too.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Played two games with that build for shits and giggles.

They were actually fairly hilarious ending 12/3/13 and 13/5/9 With surfin bird, ghostblade, bork, dashslow and blind, dis bitch is completely impossible to catch, lul.

And they gave me an excuse to build ghostblade again. I have no idea when was the last time I used it, but I've always wubbed this item

 

[Darth Roxor]

Don't worry, he's in line for a 'rework' as well

 

[Renegen]

You think Yi got it hard? LeBlanc got nerfed as fuck as well. Worse damage, CDs, CC and mana costs all over the board and only retains her old burst at lvl 16. Do those idiots at ffsRIOT even run the numbers through some basic comparison before they put out their "superior reworks"?

So the only counter to Viktor in the game has been nerfed? The glorious evolution is at hand. Untouched sinced forever, our master grows stronger and stronger while everyone else is nerfed to oblivion.

I've got a counter for Viktor, it's called DARKNESSS.

 

[Grunker]

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

 

[PlanHex]

The thing he says in the beginning of this


seems somewhat familiar:

 

[Grunker]

People are saying he's OP because he deals 10.000 damage with his ult...

...if he buys 5 Nashor's Tooth and a Rabbadon's

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I have this problem where I don't know what to build late when fed as a damage-based melee champ such as Nocturne or Udyr. For them I go Elder Lizard - Mercs - Randuins, Spirit Golem - Swiftness - Sunfire. Usually after that point I'm getting overly farmed and fed, but I feel like my item choices such as Bork or Wit's End don't work as I thought they would, I just get focused and die. Should I actually still build Warmogs, FH, Mallet and so on, pure tankiness? It's a problem specific for these junglers who aren't so good at lockdown but have damage and are decent at chasing, usually they get the kills because you're unable to donate them and kinda don't even want to early on, your teammates are unreliable and you're feeling you have to do both the damage and the tanking. Before my huge elo dive I just usually played jungle tanks and it was pretty clear what I was going to build anyway.

 

[Ulminati]

Locket of the Iron Solari works well on both of them. It's quick to build and the 5*(50+(10*lvl)) points of shield you can give your team every teamfight can win you games. Unless your support is getting it, get this in time for the lv 12-13 fights.
Aegis of the Legion is another really solid item. Only upgrade to bulwark of the enemy AP carry is fed. Many supports get this. Ask your support if they plan to build it. If they aren't, you should.
Mallet is overrated for what it does. The phage->mallet upgrade is way too expensive for your needs. Especially since both Noc and Udyr have built in movespeed steroids and CC to help them with kiting enemies. If you need a slow, pick up randuins omen instead.
For damage output, nocturne should either go for an early BotRK or Brutalizer into either Youmuu or Black Cleaver depending on team compositions. Udyr would be better off getting Iceborn Gauntlet or Triforce to make the most of his frequent stance switching.
Warmogs is decent on both of them. But it's more of a lategame item. Locket/Argis/Sunfire will give you more value for money. Especially now that warmogs doesn't need to be farmed.

 

[Grunker]

 

[Renegen]

Nocturne. Elder Lizard - Mercs - Randuins

 

[Ulminati]

Nocturne. Elder Lizard - Mercs - Randuins

Before my huge elo dive

This is all you need to know, Renegen :D

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I'm talking about when overly farmed and fed, like I said, so we're not talking about locket or something, because at least we have money for Randuins or IE or smth. I'm talking about "you have to carry alone" situations, not reasonable games. When you need to do everything.

For example I just played Garen, at 20/5 I started having the problem that I can't actually increase anything in my build so I'm floating gold, meanwhile we have Fizz with 60 CS because Brand is such an overwhelming opponent. All my massive Demacian cock really bought the team was time to fix their mistakes because pushing out Singed's second tower is freaking hard with Garen when potentially everybody can come to help him with no cost attached.

Then I play Malphite jungle (I'm bored and seems that anything flies anyway), I start with 40 armor runes, 0/30/0 because I want to see what that does. Well he doesn't take any damage from the jungle but he clears far too slow. Post-6 it went splendid though, fed ADC or no it doesn't mean dick to Malphite. Ugh I really can't be arsed to drill my strong characters again and again just to get back where I was but it seems I really have to... No trying Udyr, no trying Fizz or something, no Rengar or whatever and definately not any support because if Alistar can't peel for Vayne I really don't care anymore.

 

[Grunker]

I'm talking about when overly farmed and fed, like I said, so we're not talking about locket or something, because at least we have money for Randuins or IE or smth. I'm talking about "you have to carry alone" situations, not reasonable games. When you need to do everything.

In these games, Nocturne wants a Blade of the Ruined King or a Brutalizer. Tiger Udyr wants damage (Elder Lizard) while Phoenix Udyr wants attack speed (Blade of the Ruined King?)

You need to be able to handle these builds, however, and they only work if you are confident you are better than your league. Otherwise, you'll likely end up feeding or having to draw out of combat too fast because you get focused.

These junglers are not meant to build much in the way of offensive items, and doing so is almost like building stack items on other characters, so do so at your own peril.

For example I just played Garen

Don't do that unless you can win your lane extremely hard (like 3 kills and 50 farm ahead) EVERY GAME, without exception. Low ELO games go long because one groups or pushes hard enough. Lane dominators suck. If you've ever seen a 15/1 Darius losing, you know what I'm talking about.

(junglers are another story, champions like Xin Xhao might scale like shit, but he can make sure very single lane on his team wins if he just hyperganks the shit out of the enemy team)

 

[Ulminati]

I'm talking about "you have to carry alone" situations, not reasonable games. When you need to do everything.

The wood elo war cry.

Identify which of your team mates you work best with. Play and build to support them. If you regress into "everyone but me sucks!", no build will save you from your own stupidity.

 

[Grunker]

Just saw this:

Ugh I really can't be arsed to drill my strong characters again and again

Then you will never ascend. The pros repeat it time after time after time: The number 1 single-most important thing you can do to improve is have a very small selection of champions and play those until you hate the game, and then play them some more. Doesn't matter much which champion it is.