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Interview Spong interviews the Father of Lies

aries202

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In short, I'm a bit about this interview.

It now stands somewhat clear to me that FO3
is in real danger becoming Oblivion with guns.

As Pete & Todd apparently think that Fallout
is this. At least that's how I'd interpret Pete's
view on the Fallout humour.
 

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five bucks says pip-boy will be voice-acted. he will also give you helpful advice as to whether you're getting closer or farther away from the nearest whorehouse
 

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GhanBuriGhan said:
Would you vice versa say that journalists should not be held to certain standards of veracity and research? The question is rather: whose standards should this be? Here actually, neither the question nor the answer make much sense to me. If you have something to complain about, name it, pete.

Journalists actually should adhere to the ideals of doing thorough research and writing a maximally objective text desribing what they found out. Current gaming journalism does no research at all and writes in a highly subjective way (i.e. THE HYPE). I know enough real journalists to know that some of them really do try to live up to the ideals and I also know that such journalists unfortunately are not successful due to very simple reasons:

1. research takes a lot of time
2. during that time you can't write anything
3. during that time other journalists who don't do any research have written 20 articles
4. finally you write a well-researched article - and nothing happens. It'll be read in the same way as all the other articles. And no one will remember that you wrote a better one.
 

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Chinese Jetpilot said:
I'm sorry, but maybe I don't get it. Who the fuck remembers Terminator for its humor? I mean of all the movies you can choose to select for having subtle humor, TERMINATOR is the one that comes off the top of his head?
Pete: You know, the humour in Fallout 3 is that you can get a weapon and blow a guy to a bloody mess, then when you pull up your interface, you see a little smiling cartoon character holding his thumb up. Like that's funny…

Question: So, more like Blade Runner style humour?

Pete: Yeah, exactly, that sort of stu--HUH?!

And why does that site put up images of FOBOS's CYRUS (and WHY isn't he wielding a sledgehammer while holding some cornbread in the other hand)?

He might have been thinking of robocop and got the two confused, cause you know, they're sooooo similar. Think about it.
 

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I think they will solve the scaling to players level problem with respect to loot in the following way: Instead of every raider ending up with a power armor in the end, every creature will retain its typical loot.

But !!!innovasun!!! the loot itself will level up! So in the beginning, a supermutant will be able to pepper you from 2 meters from his minigun and not do any damage, whereas you will be able to use your pistol to shoot him in the eye to score a cccrittical hit!

In the end it's all turned around. You'll not be able to do any damage, even when using a mininuke, whereas a simple rat will be able to score a critical headshot with its teeth upon attacking you!
 

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YourConscience said:
whereas a simple rat will be able to score a critical headshot with its teeth upon attacking you!

I'm imagining a critical rat attack would play out something like that drugged up terrier scene in 'There's something about Mary'.
 

Joe Krow

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I got an idea... why not let them try? If they fuck it up- BULLY FOR YOU!! You can whine all day.

Believe it or not :

1) Bethesda has made some good games in the past. (right?)
2) Our incessant complaining has been heard. (see also hear v. listen)
3) We have no idea what the game will be like. (bias speculation aside)

I'm no fanboy (see my posts on OB forum), but I think your getting a little over zealous ...its just possible that some of our concerns may be getting through.
 

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Joe Krow said:
I got an idea... why not let them try? If they fuck it up- BULLY FOR YOU!! You can whine all day.

Believe it or not :

1) Bethesda has made some good games in the past. (right?)
2) Our incessant complaining has been heard. (see also hear v. listen)
3) We have no idea what the game will be like. (bias speculation aside)

I'm no fanboy (see my posts on OB forum), but I think your getting a little over zealous ...its just possible that some of our concerns may be getting through.
That was a good one. :lol: Now let's get back to reality...
 

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Joe Krow said:
I got an idea... why not let them try? If they fuck it up- BULLY FOR YOU!!
I got an idea... how about you'll do whatever the fuck you want to do and we'll do whatever the fuck we want to do? Works for you?

You can whine all day.
So can you, apparently.

1) Bethesda has made some good games in the past. (right?)
If you are talking about people who made these good games, they are long gone and replaced by the likes of Todd and Pete. Even Ken Rolston is gone now.

2) Our incessant complaining has been heard. (see also hear v. listen)
Our?

3) We have no idea what the game will be like. (bias speculation aside)
It's not hard to guess, is it? I mean when you go to McDonald's, you may have no idea what your meal would be like, but the simple fact that it's McDonald's kinda narrows it down for you. Are they capable of making a decent steak instead of a shitty burger? Most likely. However, McDonald's doesn't do steaks, it's not what they do well, if you understand what I'm saying.
 

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Sure. Whine all you like. It's what you do best.

Since you have no fucking idea what your talking about, you sound a little ridiculous. Sad really because your the only one that dosn't know it. Sure. you may eventually be proven correct (Fallout might not look and play like it was made in the early 90's) but thats a question for another day... for today, have a tissue.

By the way, didn't Todd himself work on Morrowind as either project lead or designer?

Wasn't Morrowind a pretty good rpg?

Get a life.
 

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Joe Krow said:
Sure. Whine all you like. It's what you do best.

Since you have no fucking idea what your talking about, you sound a little ridiculous. Sad really because your the only one that dosn't know it. Sure. you may eventually be proven correct (Fallout might not look and play like it was made in the early 90's) but thats a question for another day... for today, have a tissue.

By the way, didn't Todd himself work on Morrowind as either project lead or designer?

Wasn't Morrowind a pretty good rpg?

Get a life.

:lol:

I leave the responses to VD, he is much better at deciphering bullshit than me.
 

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OMG! I saw Pete´s picture in the interview! He looks like a deformed Joey from Friends. Now I won´t be able to sleep anymore...
 

Major_Blackhart

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Joe Krow said:
Sure. Whine all you like. It's what you do best.

Since you have no fucking idea what your talking about, you sound a little ridiculous. Sad really because your the only one that dosn't know it. Sure. you may eventually be proven correct (Fallout might not look and play like it was made in the early 90's) but thats a question for another day... for today, have a tissue.

By the way, didn't Todd himself work on Morrowind as either project lead or designer?

Wasn't Morrowind a pretty good rpg?

Get a life.

Morrowind was crap, and you suck my donkey sized cock and huge balls with your opinions. Honestly, you sound completely ridiculous and are a total retarded spastic mongoloid geek to boot. Here's why: Have you ever played fallout? Fallout 2? Planescape Torment? Arcanum?

If you have, you'll notice one thing: Morrowind sucks compared to these games. You know why? Here's why: Morrowind characters are pretty fucking static. The game world sucks. Combat sucks. Their game sucks. Now, Fallout was awesome because it had all those things and then some. Fallout 2 was fucking great, as it had all those things. Arcanum was great, but the combat sucked. Same with planescape. Now, you can ignore combat in the last two mentioned because the game was so fully amazing overall that it didn't matter.
 

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Joe Krow said:
Sure. Whine all you like. It's what you do best.
Your praise is the highest reward, Joe. :salute:

Since you have no fucking idea what your talking about, you sound a little ridiculous. Sad really because your the only one that dosn't know it.
The only one? As far as I know I'm one of the three people who actually had some contact with FO3 developers. I'm sure that you know better though.

Sure. you may eventually be proven correct (Fallout might not look and play like it was made in the early 90's...
Yep. That's what it's all about. I want a game that looks and plays like it's '97 again. 2D sprites are a must.

By the way, didn't Todd himself work on Morrowind as either project lead or designer?

Wasn't Morrowind a pretty good rpg?
Not really. Why do you think it was a good RPG though?
 

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"Not really. Why do you think it was a good RPG though?"

Codex disagrees with you. It was given one of the Top RPG Awards of 2002.

R00fles!
 

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I don't care to troll. I just think your being a little stupid. I'm sorry if crtism can only go one way here.

Morrowind was a good rpg in my opinion. If they changed it to a 3/4 view and pixalated the hell out of it and you would probably agree.

Regardless. Fallout is a clean slate for Bethesda as far as i'm concerned. They have proven they can do it right (admittedly Oblivion was a misstep). This will be their chance to prove it.

If all they wanted was a brand to mangle they wouldn't have chosen one with so much bagage. They know what the expectations are and what the market will embrace. So ask yourself: Are your expectations realistic? If your being honest with yourself then the answer is probably no. Your options then are to play old games or change your expectations. Period.

You folks should keep some perspective.
 

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Joe Krow said:
I don't care to troll. I just think your being a little stupid. I'm sorry if crtism can only go one way here.
It goes every possible fucking way here, but you'd have to do a bit better than post angry "get a life!", "stop whining!", and "give Bethesda a chance!" messages.

Morrowind was a good rpg in my opinion. If they changed it to a 3/4 view and pixalated the hell out of it and you would probably agree.
Because we like only isometric pixelated games, right? Well, read our Bloodlines and Gothic 3 review. Anyway, I understand that you think that MW is a good RPG. What I asked you is to explain why, assuming you can.

Regardless. Fallout is a clean slate for Bethesda as far as i'm concerned. They have proven they can do it right...
They can do WHAT right? Please elaborate.

...admittedly Oblivion was a misstep...
A misstep or evolution of design philosophies and goals? Doesn't look like it was an accident to me.

If all they wanted was a brand to mangle they wouldn't have chosen one with so much bagage.
What would have they chosen then? What other non-fantasy brand is popular, available, and make every review start with "[insert name] was a legendary game..."?

So ask yourself: Are your expectations realistic? If your being honest with yourself then the answer is probably no.
What if I'm being honest and the answer is yes? A better question is do you have any idea what my expectations are?

You folks should keep some perspective.
Thanks for the advice, Joe. You are always here when we need you.
 

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Spacemoose said:
five bucks says pip-boy will be voice-acted. he will also give you helpful advice as to whether you're getting closer or farther away from the nearest whorehouse

PIP BOY IS THE NEW "QUEST COMPASS!!!" Where's Chefe, dammit???
 

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