We have a winner. In 3e druids lose all their Druish powers when putting on metal armor and have to wait at least a day to get it back prior to removing it. In 5e you can't cast at all in armor you're not proficient with, so unless your DM pulls out of his ass that the druid dipped fighter he won't be able to cast.
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Spoony's PnP Tales
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Neanderthal
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Evil Druid, since when did they stop being neutral?
Let's see steal the thoughts from his mind without waking him using a Psionicist or Wizard with the correct spells. Make a transparent spell cage using one of the host of Wizard spells. Inflict a geas upon him while he sleeps. Use one of the various Hold or paralyzation spells, though you'd have to have one that allows verbal communication. Have another shapechanger present of higher level or deadliness, there are only a few forms a Druid can take and they can be accounted for. Also wasn't there a spell dealing with form stability or somesuch?
Failing that just have the party ready to chop him up at the first sign of shapechanging, the Thief gets his backstab, the Fighter an attack of opportunity, etc. He'd be hamburger before getting ten feet.
Let's see steal the thoughts from his mind without waking him using a Psionicist or Wizard with the correct spells. Make a transparent spell cage using one of the host of Wizard spells. Inflict a geas upon him while he sleeps. Use one of the various Hold or paralyzation spells, though you'd have to have one that allows verbal communication. Have another shapechanger present of higher level or deadliness, there are only a few forms a Druid can take and they can be accounted for. Also wasn't there a spell dealing with form stability or somesuch?
Failing that just have the party ready to chop him up at the first sign of shapechanging, the Thief gets his backstab, the Fighter an attack of opportunity, etc. He'd be hamburger before getting ten feet.
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Xathrodox86
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or alternatively place him in a wooden box, nail it down and be done with it? I don't know how Druids work in DnD but unless he'd transform into a fucking bear, the box should suffice.
LeStryfe79
President Spartacus
We'd usually roll 3 columns of 3d6 and one 4d6. The 3d6 columns you could place the numbers where you wanted and the 4d6 column you had to take as is. Sometimes we'd go 3d6 down the line and other times we'd power game 3rd level characters with 4d6 reroll 1's. I had a couple of truly memorable characters for each of these methods. For some reason, I think the 3d6 method Spoony is talking about works better for a group that gets to play at least once a week.
Well the reference is still in the show, right? I haven't watched it in a while, but I do remember him being in the game.
Nothing serious. Spoony said that those who are just re-rolling until they get the best stats are pussies, because if you are hardcore, you play with the character you roll for the first time.
Because it wasn't.
Delterius
Arcane
Way back in his impressions of 5E video he went on a tirade about how people became coddled with the ease of post 2E. Apparently this caused some sort of uproar, somewhere.
Yep. The real killer was that he backpedaled in the recent stat rolling video by making an off-handed comment about this not working in the more recent editions, making his entire point moot.
Delterius
Arcane
Here's the thing. That whole video was a knee jerk reaction. He says so himself the first few minutes, he hadn't even yet played a game. Further, it was before Spoony started sorta taking notes. The result is that rolled up in one video is lots of weird criticism and even the pertinent ones were poorly thought out. That's why his 3D6 video was so important.
Lhynn
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its true that the newer editions are easier. for one luck isnt as big a factor, and we all know in older editions bad luck was the same as death. Also 5e monsters mostly feautre hp bloat and lower damage with skills that are not lethal.
I liked AD&D because it wasnt as structured, you could face enemies of any level at any level, and the difference in power would dictate how the party would tackle it. In here you are called out if you go too high over the CR for the party.
I liked AD&D because it wasnt as structured, you could face enemies of any level at any level, and the difference in power would dictate how the party would tackle it. In here you are called out if you go too high over the CR for the party.
Lhynn
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Naturally its a more controlled environment, so its really accurate. Thats the issue really, the more you structure your game, the more formulaic it becomes, and formulas are boring.
A for 3e, that system was so utterly broken that nothing implemented worked right. and all of its elements worked against actually playing the game, its amazing how bad it was.
A for 3e, that system was so utterly broken that nothing implemented worked right. and all of its elements worked against actually playing the game, its amazing how bad it was.
m_s0
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Yup, he does whine a lot. He can do better than that, mind you - and he has done better when first started making videos - but that seems to be the default mode he's been stuck in for a long time now. He used to have a bit more bite. Now he's mostly about assuming a comically over the top 'butch' kind of authority, which I'm not sure he realizes tends to make him look like a whiny bitch, especially when he doesn't rein it in.
Easier (and more financially viable, I bet) to do what he's doing than to analyze and do a proper critique. I wish he'd get more into the latter. Anyone know any channels for that? Most I've come across were embarassing to watch, frankly.
A few of those recent CM videos were pretty good, though.
Xathrodox86
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Lhynn
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Naw, because they were as shit as paladins. they are basically unplayably bad and underpowered and cant challenge anything for shit.
We are talking about chosen by god characters that are simply put, among the weakest classes in the game. Being a paladin used to mean something, in 3e all it meant is that you were a cleric that was severely gimped.
We are talking about chosen by god characters that are simply put, among the weakest classes in the game. Being a paladin used to mean something, in 3e all it meant is that you were a cleric that was severely gimped.
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