Stellaris - Paradox new sci-fi grand strategy game

[Average Manatee]

so they're getting rid of one of the most fascinating and beloved tropes in sci-fi, the single purpose planet? totally what everybody's asking.

as far as i know, only moo3 managed to play this well, since having a planet not rely on imported resources helped buy time in case of sieges and having different functionalities helped through the process of terraforming. i don't see *anything* of this being reflected in stellaris.

I don't think specialized planets really works well at the scale of Stellaris. Empires commonly have like... 5 planets before they run out of room to grow naturally. Specialized planets leads to immediate economic death spirals whenever a single planet is occupied.

Those sci-fi tropes are always specialized planets as a part of a huge empire, we're talking hundreds if not thousands of planets.

 

[Mortmal]

That's not too surprising. Pops were hurting performance, so they minimized them as much as possible. The game never really rewarded tall play—there's still no reason not to just expand, except for roleplaying, as a conqueror will always do better. Expanding as much as possible has no real drawback, and you'll never fall behind in tech.

 

[thesecret1]

That's not too surprising. Pops were hurting performance, so they minimized them as much as possible. The game never really rewarded tall play—there's still no reason not to just expand, except for roleplaying, as a conqueror will always do better. Expanding as much as possible has no real drawback, and you'll never fall behind in tech.

You can play tall by building ring worlds and habitat spamming, but you'll soon start to hate your life due to the micro

 

[Trithne]

That's not too surprising. Pops were hurting performance, so they minimized them as much as possible. The game never really rewarded tall play—there's still no reason not to just expand, except for roleplaying, as a conqueror will always do better. Expanding as much as possible has no real drawback, and you'll never fall behind in tech.

You can play tall by building ring worlds and habitat spamming, but you'll soon start to hate your life due to the micro

That's not so much playing tall as playing wide in a small space.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

That's not too surprising. Pops were hurting performance, so they minimized them as much as possible. The game never really rewarded tall play—there's still no reason not to just expand, except for roleplaying, as a conqueror will always do better. Expanding as much as possible has no real drawback, and you'll never fall behind in tech.

You can play tall by building ring worlds and habitat spamming, but you'll soon start to hate your life due to the micro

You still need to build up your economy to do that though, which means constant expansion for more pops and exploitation.

 

[thesecret1]

That's not too surprising. Pops were hurting performance, so they minimized them as much as possible. The game never really rewarded tall play—there's still no reason not to just expand, except for roleplaying, as a conqueror will always do better. Expanding as much as possible has no real drawback, and you'll never fall behind in tech.

You can play tall by building ring worlds and habitat spamming, but you'll soon start to hate your life due to the micro

You still need to build up your economy to do that though, which means constant expansion for more pops and exploitation.

Habitats are cheap, and you can save a lot of resources by having only a modest navy. But as I said, if you go this way, you'll just have to manage all the more tiny "planets", which is probably the most tedious area of the game. I always rage when I conquer an alien system and see the AI had built a dozen of those shitboxes. Can't even destroy them because Paradox. I could decolonize them, at least, but then they keep polluting you UI... I hate the habitats.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Yeah, and it doesn't help that 90% of the habitats are barely developed and a resource and pop sink. I wish you didn't have to spend 200 influence to abandon a habitat. Planets I get, but habitats should be free to ditch.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

I don't think specialized planets really works well at the scale of Stellaris. Empires commonly have like... 5 planets before they run out of room to grow naturally. Specialized planets leads to immediate economic death spirals whenever a single planet is occupied.

are you really really really for truely real playing this piss easy basic simple game to efficiently minmax? stellaris is larping central, no other reason to interact with it.

 

[Mortmal]

It's like this with every new Paradox game—not that the previous ones were much better, but still. There's never any need to min-max anything against the AI. Maybe in multiplayer, but I doubt anyone has the patience or enough people available for such long sessions.