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Neanderthal

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One thing I liked about original Witcher, you were stopping the bloke who was saving the world, nice reversal.
 

pippin

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One thing I liked about original Witcher, you were stopping the bloke who was saving the world, nice reversal.

Alvin
was saving the world in the same way
Richard Grey
was saving the world :D

The flip flopping obviously comes after taking a peek at SCL's Steam community hub. It's hilarious. Even casuals who only know of D&D because of the most popular crpgs are dissapointed. Some of them are even managing to get refunds from GMG (or so they say), a site which never does refunds.
There are some people saying stuff like ugh grognards pls go but those are just arpg fans and also a great example of Dev Team Employee n° 3254657645.
 
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Next level of butthurt brewing...

PSA: Pre-Order Refunds declined for direct site purchases.
Just letting folks know who have also purchased the game directly from swordcoast and linked to their steam. I opened a ticket for a Pre-Order Refund with their customer support and the following response was given:

"Thank you for your request and for pre-ordering Sword Coast Legends! Unfortunately, we are not able to offer refunds or cancel orders for the Sword Coast Legends Pre-Order packs.

For further information, please also see our Terms of Use here:

https://swordcoast.com/terms (89KB)

Sorry we couldn't be of more help!"

As I pretty much already expected. Oh well, lesson learnt - only pre-order games directly from Steam.
 

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That's kind of silly, Faerun is a big place. I haven't finished a ton of FR rpgs but how many of them involve saving the entire planet?

BG1 - No, you stop Saverok from starting a war with amn and thats it
Actually you stop him from possibly ascending to Godhood as new lord of murder. He would probably cause more mayhem as new Bhaal than old Bhaal did.
 

pippin

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Actually you stop him from possibly ascending to Godhood as new lord of murder. He would probably cause more mayhem as new Bhaal than old Bhaal did.

But that still feels more like gods fighting each other than "let's save faerun" even if you do that in the process. The same goes to BG2: you fix the elven fuckups and then you fight your siblings.
 

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Actually you stop him from possibly ascending to Godhood as new lord of murder. He would probably cause more mayhem as new Bhaal than old Bhaal did.
Actually you stop him from starting a war with amn that would have furthered his ambitions.
He probably would have been the one at war with the other bhaalspawns for the essence and all that crap.
 

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Actually you stop him from starting a war with amn that would have furthered his ambitions.
He probably would have been the one at war with the other bhaalspawns for the essence and all that crap.
You and him do not know that. What you know is that he wants to cause mass murder because he believes he will ascent to godhood. If the game tanked, there would be no Bg2 and that would have been the whole story.

Also I don't believe in SCL you will save the world, that is just the PR mumbo jumbo. You will probably fight some demon at end or something. I bet it will have less impact than BG1 would have if you failed.
 

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Alvin
was saving the world in the same way
Richard Grey
was saving the world :D

You know thinking about it now there is a bit of a link with Fallout isn't there, nice. Then again I think that's way it should be, anyone who thinks they're saving world should be a raving nutter, out of touch with reality and probably worth taking a stand against.
 

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If you hate old D&D / AD&D so much you should relinquish your Trampier 1E avatar now and replace it with some Wayne Reynolds art. :lol:
I was looking through the new PF book, Occult Adventures, to see if there's anything worth using (there isn't). However I did find this gem, one of the new "iconics"

PZO1132-Mavaro.jpg


Hahaha oh gawd, he looks just like a typical Pathfinder player
 

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I was looking through the new PF book, Occult Adventures, to see if there's anything worth using (there isn't). However I did find this gem, one of the new "iconics"

PZO1132-Mavaro.jpg


Hahaha oh gawd, he looks just like a typical Pathfinder player
I believe I found the primary source of inspiration:
Luso.jpg
 
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ArchAngel

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how can he even move with all that crap for fucks sake
High levels baby. All high level characters look like that in 3.5e/Pathfinders (you should see him glow when the lights are out). One of the main reasons why it sucked.
 

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Well those times are back with 5e since 5e core rules are made so you can do with little to no magic items.
 
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After looking at their Steam forum I can just imagine the discussion behind the scenes that led to this :lol:

Quite used to their PR habits by now but the talk of a "successful headstart campaign" and "powerful Dungeon Master campaign creation features" was worth a chuckle.
 

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I miss this really. 5ed art is good for our declined days, but don't nearly approaches this.
Me too, i think i remember some guy in codex workshop asking for an artist able to replicate lary elmore's art, a good idea but that makes me laugh as it seems completely impossible .


Evening-Rest.jpg
 
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I don't think it's impossible, just need a lot of talent and dedication. Oh wait... Why draw something good when this bizarre stuff pass as art:

PHB---Tyler-Jacobson.jpg


That's the 5ed Playerbook cover. I can hardly understand wtf is going on, reminds me of those terribly bloated images from Michael Bay's Transformers movies.
 

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The scurry is real on that launch delay after their Headstart nonsense bombed out with refund requests and an abundance of negative feedback save for the diehards living in faith as opposed to facts.
 

pippin

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That's what happens when the kid who drew cool dragons in the back of his notebooks lands a job at a company like Wizards of the Coast, for instance.
The image is not balanced. The detail and relevance is put in the fucking beast, which took me a few moments to understand. Also, I never noticed the second character.
Elmore's image is clearly superior, not only because of his palette choice, but because the image is built in a way that your attention is drawn to specific points in the painting. The characters are distinct from each other, and small details like drawing a mountain in the background suggest you're adventuring. And these are just basic principles of illustration, I mean, Da Vinci figured that shit out in the 1450s.

I don't think it's impossible, just need a lot of talent and dedication. Oh wait... Why draw something good when this bizarre stuff pass as art:
 

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Yes i always wished to explore the background of such paintings, its really inspiring to look at this when making your own home made campaigns.
 

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