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Raghar

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Name a strategy game with better AI
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/elven-legacy
There you have a link.

Also let's quote Frogboy
In Galactic Civilizations II, I had the AI "play" a few virtual turns into the future where it had the human player controlled by the AI. Then, based on what it predicted, it "reacted" to that and effectively pre-planned. It was a ton of effort though, not something I really want to do again given that I'm not sure most users even noticed the quality difference (except maybe the really good players).
I had scratch of AI for real time model like TW that used this for real time battles to remove worst ideas.
 

BrotherFrank

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I think you guys are being unfair with the Grimoire comparison...

At least we've seen videos and pics of Grimoire in action that i'm reasonably sure weren't fake and Cleve isn't a delicate flower who hides behind some dude whose only job is to placate the few remaining backers he hadn't outright banned from the forums.
 

almondblight

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Fenicks said this in Feb:

There are a lot of things we could do to release and finish the product if Josh got hit by a bus tomorrow - but we aren't there yet and I am not ready to go there.

If you backed us originally on Kickstarter at the Beta tier or above:

We don't have the ability to refund you now. If we come to the conclusion that the game can't or won't be released we'll start a system where we slooooowly start refunding everyone out of pocket. I didn't even think of the best way to do this but keep in mind that it would make me personally responsible for $30,000+ - so yes it would take us to a decade to pay everyone back - but we would figure out a way to start a lottery system or something. I would start with the highest tiers though so when no one gets money for 2 years thanks awesomeguys like Sean.
 

DramaticPopcorn

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Fenicks said this in Feb:

There are a lot of things we could do to release and finish the product if Josh got hit by a bus tomorrow - but we aren't there yet and I am not ready to go there.

If you backed us originally on Kickstarter at the Beta tier or above:

We don't have the ability to refund you now. If we come to the conclusion that the game can't or won't be released we'll start a system where we slooooowly start refunding everyone out of pocket. I didn't even think of the best way to do this but keep in mind that it would make me personally responsible for $30,000+ - so yes it would take us to a decade to pay everyone back - but we would figure out a way to start a lottery system or something. I would start with the highest tiers though so when no one gets money for 2 years thanks awesomeguys like Sean.
Holy shit, this is gold, it's everyone but theirs fault !
 

Beowulf

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Fenicks should start a second kickstarter and gather the money to hire one of those Germans, that relaxes himself with Bus Driver Simulator, after busy day of driving the bus as a day job, and let him release his inner nazi by running Josh over.

I mean, if he really cares about "releasing" the "game".
 

Destroid

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Given how great the idea is and how nice the videos look a second kickstarter would probably raise a lot of money, likely more than the original one did.
 

thesheeep

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Oh my, a new KS update...

It is really quite fascinating.

This project is something many people want to see made so badly (understandably, what a great idea it is!) that they willingly ignore every single sign that this game never has and most probably never will exist other than in someones head and in some (well made) photoshop fake-pics.
It is like a magicians trick. It works because people want to be fooled.

Of course, the whole map is now in "3D", because why not, right? :lol:
 
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Hobo Elf

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While I don't have any good news about the AI update as of yet, I did want to share what the map looks like now with all of its final assets in place.

That's all I read in this new update before stopping. He's literally saying "there's still no gameplay but look at another map mockup we comissioned someone to make for us".
 
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I like how he couldn't be bothered to make the ui look like the old one so he tried to pass it off as evidence of work being done
 

DramaticPopcorn

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I like how he couldn't be bothered to make the ui look like the old one so he tried to pass it off as evidence of work being done
It's a different zoom level, man, of course the UI is gonna differ completely from other layers. Just what are you implying, bro?
 

Jimmious

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
The only semi-decent thing to do now would be to release the game in any condition it is currently and make it Open-Source for anyone to actually maybe finish it sometime.
Ofcourse that would mean that there is actual code and an actual game somewhere. So yeah.
 

Johannes

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Why is he still bothering with the updates. What's there to gain for him from making more and more mockups instead of just shutting the fuck up? Is he really deluding himself that it will all work out eventually?
 

almondblight

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He probably thinks that he'll eventually find a turn based game plugin for Unity that he can pop in and the game will be finished.
 
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all I can say is that Josh has taken zero of my input, advice, or consideration into account when he works or posts updates. I was most annoyed that he said "we" on his update - as clearly there is no "we"
Fenicks's impotent whining reveals the deep truth that there is no we in team but there is a me
 
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no contact for a couple weeks now, since well before the last update and no contact during / after. I am still pushing for a meeting so I can see what the heck is going on. It's not like I can take his local machine and expect that to be helpful to anyone Sean.
To carry that medical research metaphor even further the scientist's old lab was shut down and he moved back to his hometown to work on the cancer cold gout cure in his mom's garage. After weeks of badgering to pony up something to prove they've got something more effecatious than a placebo the scientist privately agrees to start limited preliminary testing. Then he holds a press conference to show that he spent the last six months coming up with a new unpleasant shade of muddy green for the pills to be and that indeed they don't do anything but that's because of an overly complex molecule chain and that he was going to start over from scratch to get a more simple but actually effective molecule chain out there. During this all he is steadfastly ignoring his business partner as enthusiastically as when he was in another state.
In short there's nothing on that damn local computer that can be of use to anyone, especially Josh.
 
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Porn for Josh is shelling out hundreds of dollars on random ass image packs and trying and failing to bring himself to release.
 

Iwannabearock

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Okay; I did some research on my own and I found this:

MiGoToo.png

This image is from before all the mayhem; from 7 april 2015...
But today i was surfing on deviantart and I found this:
migo_by_borjapindado-d6gb4no.jpg

http://borjapindado.deviantart.com/art/MiGo-390190164
the same art " for future card game "Chronicles of the Axis of Terror" for Kalango Analogico." from 2013
And now i wonder: Wtf? Wasn't all the art new and exclusive for tws? What if all the kickstarter money wasn't used on the art assests?
I don't know what to say here, but this smells like shit for me :(
 

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