Game News The Age of Decadence Released

[Aenra]

Definitely. Was so hard to grasp anyway, especially when you and Carrinas have never met before, especially when you're told "after i get you in, you're on your own". I mean how could one have guessed.
All along, there i was, waiting for my quest sign to start BLINK BLINK BLINKing, and it never did. I had to actually try shit out and see where it got me. A horrid, horrid experience.

Only Bioware understands true RPG fans.

 

[Esquilax]

Game is great and I'm having a blast with a rewarding pacifist play through. My only issue is I feel a little forced into some situations due to misconceptions between what my player character says and what they think/desire. When looking for evidence of betrayal in Teron, I accidentally joined the group I was trying to depose, with seemingly no options to back out of it and betray them. I assumed claiming I wanted to join up and proving myself would grant me enough access to search for evidence of betrayal, and item to use for forgery, etc. Does anyone else feel this way?

Well, considering that the options presented were either to sell Carrinas your services (i.e. turn on the Merchant's Guild), or to dupe him into incriminating himself by obtaining his signature, it was fairly obvious. This doesn't need changing.

However, where it is unclear is in another area with a somewhat similar setup:

Vault Dweller Elhoim

Spoiler

As a House Aurelian/House Daratan Praetor, after surviving a trip on Meru's chair and agreeing to head to Al-Akia, the communication is unclear regarding whether the PC has genuinely converted to Meru's cause or whether you are just playing him as a double agent. You have the "Give me some time to think about this option", sure, but there's also the option to play along with Meru, then sabotage the ritual at Al-Akia. While there are no [lie] tags anywhere in the game, I think that communication with the player here is way too vague. Ideally, it would look something like:

1) "Let's serve the Gods, brother!" Head to Al-Akia.
2) Play along with Meru's scheme for now and learn more about what he's planning. "Let's serve the Gods, brother!" Head to Al-Akia.
3) "I need more time to think about this."

This would give the player a better idea of the intent of each choice and what sort of options they'd have.

 

[Mustawd]

Definitely. Was so hard to grasp anyway, especially when you and Carrinas have never met before, especially when you're told "after i get you in, you're on your own". I mean how could one have guessed.
All along, there i was, waiting for my quest sign to start BLINK BLINK BLINKing, and it never did. I had to actually try shit out and see where it got me. A horrid, horrid experience.

Only Bioware understands true RPG fans.

what
is
your
avatar?

Seriously...wtf is that thing?

 

[Mozg]

Back to D&D school you jock that's a fuckin intellect devourer geez

(note: I actually had to GIS "brain dog" but I did vaguely remember it)

 

[Mustawd]

Back to D&D school you jock that's a fuckin intellect devourer geez

(note: I actually had to GIS "brain dog" but I did vaguely remember it)

I never played D&D, so there's that. But seriously...that's just a brain with scary chicken feet attached to it...are all D&D monsters that retarded?

Also, you are not Gozma

 

[Zeriel]

edit: ah, but lurker king already is using him so forget it

I vote everyone on the Codex changes avatar to Miltiades.

 

[veevoir]

I vote everyone on the Codex changes avatar to Miltiades.

That'd be creepy.

Funny that poland is not on that list because back in 2000-2006 it had ( along with russia ) biggest post-apocalyptic fanbase in europe. Plenty of sites and forums with many posts. Many potato users posting on nma. Now sites and forums are few and most of them are dead. Those sites and forums which still are alive are full of beth fanboys.
Not a single one of them had post about AoD release. Not a single site/forum had mentioned about new post-apocalyptic iso+tb crpg? This would be unimaginable back in 2003...

Possible that all the potatos who actually cared had a chance to buy it during EA. Besides, most polish RPG forums are dead unless you count W3 or bethestardism. That's why we're all here!

 

[Havoc]

Possible that all the potatos who actually cared had a chance to buy it during EA. Besides, most polish RPG forums are dead unless you count W3 or bethestardism. That's why we're all here!

And we'll never betray you, codexians!

 

[norolim]

In AoD, people lead you.

?

 

[Lurker King]

Definitely. Was so hard to grasp anyway, especially when you and Carrinas have never met before, especially when you're told "after i get you in, you're on your own". I mean how could one have guessed.
All along, there i was, waiting for my quest sign to start BLINK BLINK BLINKing, and it never did. I had to actually try shit out and see where it got me. A horrid, horrid experience.

Only Bioware understands true RPG fans.

The problem is the most cRPGs have so generic filler quests that we got used to play the game ignoring the information. Most of the time we have either to save somebody, talk with somebody or deliver something to somebody. I have a bro who played AoD that way. Barely reading walls of text, focusing only names and expecting that the quest journal would do everything for him. He got a problem in one of the quests because he remembered the name Sohrab and thought that he should find the guy. When he actually should

Spoiler

Impersonate the guy at the outpost.

 

[GuiltyofBeingTrite]

This isn't an issue with lack of direction, it is the upside of this game. The issue is strictly choosing the less desirable path for my character because I'm misconstruing his intent. It's making me save scum when I was actively trying to avoid doing that in this game.

Well, considering that the options presented were either to sell Carrinas your services (i.e. turn on the Merchant's Guild), or to dupe him into incriminating himself by obtaining his signature, it was fairly obvious. This doesn't need changing.

However, where it is unclear is in another area with a somewhat similar setup:

Vault Dweller Elhoim

Spoiler

As a House Aurelian/House Daratan Praetor, after surviving a trip on Meru's chair and agreeing to head to Al-Akia, the communication is unclear regarding whether the PC has genuinely converted to Meru's cause or whether you are just playing him as a double agent. You have the "Give me some time to think about this option", sure, but there's also the option to play along with Meru, then sabotage the ritual at Al-Akia. While there are no [lie] tags anywhere in the game, I think that communication with the player here is way too vague. Ideally, it would look something like:

1) "Let's serve the Gods, brother!" Head to Al-Akia.
2) Play along with Meru's scheme for now and learn more about what he's planning. "Let's serve the Gods, brother!" Head to Al-Akia.
3) "I need more time to think about this."

This would give the player a better idea of the intent of each choice and what sort of options they'd have.

This seems like a better explanation of my issue, I'll try to find another example.

 

[Irenaeus II]

I like how you don't control the consequences of your choices. You think you'll outmaneuver the NPCs, but you are played. +1

 

[Rivmusique]

Spoiler

Good job on the "attempt to 'wing it' then crash and burn" airship dialogue, top 5 moment

 

[Irenaeus II]

Spoiler

Good job on the "attempt to 'wing it' then crash and burn" airship dialogue, top 5 moment

Don't click this if you haven't reached Ganazar.

 

[Hoodoo]

yes



thankyou rpgcodex
bless you vd
rip phelot



the games
oh god the games



no yes

 

[Irenaeus II]

Amen

 

[Volrath]

The intro says that it's damaged.

I pirated the game this weekend, enjoyed it immensely and just bought it for full price on steam.

 

[Bubbles]

I pirated the game this weekend

Ah, so demos do not actually stop try-before-you-buy piracy. Myth busted!

 

[Commissar Draco]

[Word of Honor] I pirated this before getting my GOG key from Key Vince but then deleted ''demo'' version... Piracy has nothing to do with sales ... Also managed to get to Second time and not die horrible there I must say that I was tempted to join House Aurelian there the Lord Galerius and Legate Carinas are only two NPC so far worth fighting for. But my Preator word is either his bond or he joins the Imperial Guard to to be All He Can Be... Its so refreshing after the Merchant play with its greed, intrigues and backstabbing to just uphold the law your word and purge the Motherland from bandit and raider scum! :russia:

 

[Irenaeus II]

[Word of Honor] I pirated this before getting my GOG key from Key Vince but then deleted ''demo'' version... Piracy has nothing to do with sales .

[praetor]I bought this game in late 2012 and bought it again when it was released. Incline has no price to my wallet.

 

[Ezrite]

Seems I failed my reputation roll or my perception roll but! So I poke around again.

Where in the world is Elias? Also for some reason. I fail to open up all areas I been to on my trader. Now I do not remember who gave the location to me either.

 

[John Yossarian]

Spoiler

You learn about a few in the library, you get that from loremaster in telescope place in maadoran

 

[Ezrite]

Spoiler

You learn about a few in the library, you get that from loremaster in telescope place in maadoran

Oh yeah, but I need to have some lore for that no? My idiot Legionnaire found barely anything.

 

[Goral]

Where in the world is Elias? Also for some reason.

Spoiler

Elias is in Ganezzar lowtown, in the building on the right (right when you enter the city) with a ladder (first floor).

 

[John Yossarian]

Well yes, that would do it. I always make sure to have at least 8(i dont know if this is the cutoff btw) lore before I go tthere, regardless of build. I got 3 lore for free as a merc, then later didn't really need more combat skills so just kept upping lore and crafting for all the weird machines and locations.