The Codex of Roguelikes

[KeighnMcDeath]

You know; Rift Wizard reminds me of some games on the TI-99, ZX Spectrum, and C64. It has a sort of charm to it. Tbh, it looks like it could easily be a mobile game. Only random shit I play on my phone is solitaire.

 

[Metronome]

Is Shadow of The Wyrm the basedest modern roguelike?

It's one of my favorites. I'll have to try for the ultra ending again some day.

 

[buffalo bill]

just got my first diamond badge in doomrl, marksman diamond. did it with angel of overconfidence. (edit: accidentally wrote "platinum" badge, selling myself short)

I basically didn't shoot anything (I might literally not have fired once), got a lucky invulnerability on hell 3 that lasted to the mortuary where I got the nuclear BFG. Last level of hell before dis I had 8% health, no healing items, and spawned in a room with the exit stairs and a cacodemon. Ran (with hellrunner 2). Managed to get to the stairs just as the demon was waking up. Edge of my seat. Been trying to win this badge all week in a normal run, but could never get my technician to sharpshooter. Doing it with Overconfidence and basically as a pacifist run feels a little like cheesing, but whatever I got it

doomrl fucking rules

 

[Jenkem]

You know; Rift Wizard reminds me of some games on the TI-99, ZX Spectrum, and C64. It has a sort of charm to it. Tbh, it looks like it could easily be a mobile game. Only random shit I play on my phone is solitaire.

how exactly does it look like it could be a mobile game? it looks like any other roguelike w/ tiles

 

[Theodora]

The vast mojority of it of it is trivially easy with a summoning/ranged build, and the only enemies that gives you trouble (summoners in certain layouts) are still easy to avoid solong as you're willing to abandon a floor.

I thought part of what made it good was that you could just keep bumping up the difficulty, but ig if you only go for the "best" build and not what you think is fun / interesting then it's a different matter.

anyone know anything about this?

Has one of the best spell systems in any game imo. While not a 1:1 relation, it kinda felt like the traditional roguelike equivalent of Noita to me. Best thing to do would be check out some videos etc. I posted some screenshots of its spell system when it first came out (but keep in mind its had a number of updates since then):

Anyone else given Rift Wizard a go? Sorta reminds me of a more traditional roguelike noita, though more thematic than mechanical in similarity. Very nice aesthetic too, like a tamer version of Qud sprites, and with a lovely uniformity in general. Pretty challenging at that.

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You get a ton of different spells (and another page of abilities) to choose from as you go, so it's very much a case of choosing your own build rather than being pigeonholed by RNG.

The variety and number of spell choices available seems to grow as you continue through the game.

When you clear a level, you get to choose between a series of options for the next one. You can even look at them before choosing it.

You don't confirm your choice until you actually choose where to spawn in the level.

I don't wanna spoil too much — I could post sooo very many of these — but some of the spells available are really dope.

I guess it's technically what you'd call a coffee-break roguelike, but it has plelnty of challenge in it. Oh, and it has great controls for keyboard and mouse. Lots of flexibility.

 

[Jenkem]

how do you read all that text on your phone?

 

[Theodora]

how do you read all that text on your phone?

Idk, I posted it assuming people would be reading it on a desktop or laptop.

 

[TheDiceMustRoll]

Approaching Infinity is a lot of fun, but it puts no effort into its worldbuilding

 

[Jenkem]

You know; Rift Wizard reminds me of some games on the TI-99, ZX Spectrum, and C64. It has a sort of charm to it. Tbh, it looks like it could easily be a mobile game. Only random shit I play on my phone is solitaire.

Idk, I posted it assuming people would be reading it on a desktop or laptop.

 

[Fishy]

Tangledeep just got updated with a new Ronin mode: https://steamcommunity.com/games/628770/announcements/detail/3043843659812963330

In short, no job system, you get randomly assigned a random build (12 actives, 6 passives) that you can then train as before for JP. That includes new skills that were not part of any jobs before. Seems that mode also removes branching.

Also, the author randomly drops in the patchnotes that he's working on two new games including Tangledeep 2.

 

[Fenix]

Isn't actually a roguelike, but dunno where to post.

 

[lukaszek]

Isn't actually a roguelike, but dunno where to post.

i assume it works only with controller since you must handle both movement of your character and platform?

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Rift Wizard is pretty cool. Too bad it has simplistic structure, just a bunch of levels with spawners...

 

[Jenkem]

Isn't actually a roguelike, but dunno where to post.

i assume it works only with controller since you must handle both movement of your character and platform?

why couldn't you use WASD to move and arrow keys to move platforms?

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Twin stick controller perhaps?

 

[lukaszek]

Isn't actually a roguelike, but dunno where to post.

i assume it works only with controller since you must handle both movement of your character and platform?

why couldn't you use WASD to move and arrow keys to move platforms?

sounds awkward, like playing i am bread with k&m
also properly moving character + platform + attacking and perhaps activating power might not be doable or even more awkward.
Like if you had to press 's' + 'd' to handle movement and hit 'x' or 'c' at the same time

 

[Jenkem]

but on a controller you'd have to move w/ the left stick and then move platforms with the right stick, right? so how would you attack?

 

[lukaszek]

but on a controller you'd have to move w/ the left stick and then move platforms with the right stick, right? so how would you attack?

based on vids attack direction seem to be done by movement

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Fired up DCSS on a whim after not having played for a few years, and what the goddamn fuck. They've been at it with a machete it seems. So much stuff getting auto-ID'd, no hunger mechanic at all, etc. The strange thing is their stated goal with DCSS is trying to make it a roguelike you can play without meta-knowledge and can make reasonable decisions without much previous experience, but apparently that means the hunger mechanic deserves the axe but DCSS' obtuse skill system of "Yeah bro you need 12 ranks in weapon skill to reduce your weapon's attack speed to minimum" is still alive and well. Which I'm not really knocking their skill system, it just seems fucking weird that I guess a character burning through satiation faster by regenerating/berserking/whatever is too fiddly but the skill system's fine. Other than feeling confused about shit like that though, still alright. Never been a huge DCSS fiend but once in a while it hits the spot.

 

[Fenix]

DCSS' obtuse skill system of "Yeah bro you need 12 ranks in weapon skill to reduce your weapon's attack speed to minimum" is still alive and well

Maybe it will be the next, how do we know...

 

[Morblot]

Next they'll streamline combat out of the game.

 

[jcd]

Fired up DCSS on a whim after not having played for a few years, and what the goddamn fuck. They've been at it with a machete it seems. So much stuff getting auto-ID'd, no hunger mechanic at all, etc. The strange thing is their stated goal with DCSS is trying to make it a roguelike you can play without meta-knowledge and can make reasonable decisions without much previous experience, but apparently that means the hunger mechanic deserves the axe but DCSS' obtuse skill system of "Yeah bro you need 12 ranks in weapon skill to reduce your weapon's attack speed to minimum" is still alive and well. Which I'm not really knocking their skill system, it just seems fucking weird that I guess a character burning through satiation faster by regenerating/berserking/whatever is too fiddly but the skill system's fine. Other than feeling confused about shit like that though, still alright. Never been a huge DCSS fiend but once in a while it hits the spot.

I took a look at the latest changelog recently and this was my impression as well. They're hacking the most fun elements away. Rip Djinns, rip centaurs, rip lava orcs, rip stalkers, death knights and priests. Hunger was involved in like 30% of decision making in this game.

 

[Sibylla]

If you want difficulty play the original Crawl http://www.dungeoncrawl.org/?d
and get your ass handed to you. Hunger is an unfun mechanic when you need to eat A LOT. Its stupid

 

[jcd]

The amount you need to eat depends on the species and class. This also makes it fun because different species have different eating restrictions or eat different things (like vampires or trolls or spriggans). Deleting the whole mechanic removes a layer of planning. I don't want the game to be difficult, I want it to be fun. It's fine if difficulty is a part of the fun, but it's not the whole point of the game.

 

[Fenix]

Won Jupiter Hell' on Nightmare. Was hard, and sadly without lucky drop of weapon, capable of gibbing enemies - usually purple one, unique - you won't survive past Callisto.

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