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The Codexian Saga LP

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by The Barbarian, May 8, 2010.

  1. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    The original tally when I voted had B ahead of C by 1 point - 40 to 41. Assume my tally is out of date now though, what with people changing their votes left and right.

    The quantum physicists were right. merely by observing an event, we change its outcome.
     
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  2. taplonaplo Scholar

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    OK switched C and B on my vote, now floppers will have a hard time changing the outcome...
     
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  3. taplonaplo Scholar

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    originally C was ahead, but the flipping changed that, butt ulminati nullified with his flop (so both C and B increased). Actually you ARE who can change that, coz you can push the balance with 6 points that takes at least 2 new people or a bunch of floppers, who probably has B as first anyway and thus can only shrink the difference with 2 max.
     
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  4. praetor Arcane

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    i'm thinking of flipping my vote to put C in the lead... :smug:

    edit: flipped :incline:
     
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  5. taplonaplo Scholar

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    As i understand we had:
    C - 41
    B - 40
    Nickless, Ulminati, Bethesda flipped around, thus inflating scores
    C - 43
    B - 43
    At this point if i have CxxB and flip to BxxC i change the result to
    C - 46
    B - 40
    Now preator jumps in and bumps B down to strengthen his C, but he can only inflate B by 2 max, since he already had C on top
    C - 46
    B - 42
     
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  6. taplonaplo Scholar

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    I want B to win as well, but not by exploiting the voting system. The point of this system was, that the choice wins that was the most favored one overall, a built in compromise if you wish. I don't want the barbarian to revert back to the old system exclusively just coz some tards can't "lose".
     
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  7. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

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    Yeah, in hindsight it was all my fault :/ It is correct that it was 41-40. BethesdaLove decided to flip his vote, and I flipped mine to counterbalance so the scores didn't change, since I found it incredibly cheesy of himn. then nickless changed his, landing us at 43-43. Gods only know what the votes are at now. The system is fine so long as noone can be arsed to tally up the votes. The problem arised when I put it out plainly who were wining, and a couple of butthurt people decided to change their votes solely so that their preferred option could "win" instead of ordering the choices after their preferrence.

    I honestly expected better from people. :rpgcodex:
     
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  8. Murk Arcane

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    Did this seriously fucking happen?

    I motion that we not be allowed to flip flop from now on.
     
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  9. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    Chaning my vote so that C is last!

    Also, optional preferential voting would fix this. Gimme a minute to tally that...

    With these votes and by using the system explained here:
    • ACBD - Mikayel

      BACD - DarkUnderlord
      BCAD - Juggernaut
      BCDA - anus_pounder
      BDCA - laclongquan
      BADC - Ulminati
      BDCA - Azira
      BACD - Flying Spaghetti Monster
      BCAD - treave
      BCAD - Conkrete Knight
      BACD - obediah
      BCDA - Luan

      CDAB - Nickless DISHONOURABLE VOTE SPECULATION
      CDAB - taponaplo
      CBAD - Radech
      CABD - praetor
      CDAB - root
      CADB - BethesdaLove DISHONOURABLE VOTE SPECULATION
      CABD - LusciousPear
      CBAD - meeneque

      DACB - The Brazillian slaughter
    First Preference Votes (people who chose this as their first option):
    A - 1
    B - 11
    C - 8
    D - 1

    With D & A both receiving the least votes, they are removed from the count and their preferences are distributed.

    Mikayel (who chose A as his first preference) had C as his second preference, so his vote is added to C. The Brazillian slaughter who voted D first, had A as his second preference. As A has also been eliminated, we need to go to his third preference which is also C.

    B - 11
    C - 10 (+2)

    B wins. :smug:

    Yeah, coding something to avoid the manual count would be cool. People could then easily see what option was winning at any one time - and change their vote if they so desired before the voting closed.
     
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  10. MasterSmithFandango Arcane

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    Maybe it's me, but isn't the changing of votes thing kind of gay? I mean, unless the Barbarian gives us new information or someone comes out with an eloquent defense of a stance, switching votes around so your second favorite vote wins is a bit... "gamey". What's the point of having a C&C game if you all are too big of pussies to even stick with your Choices? Biowarian shit here, dude.
     
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  11. obediah Erudite

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    Don't be a knee-jerk. Or at least do it right and claim to be doing it for the children.

    1. Flip-flopping generates discussion of votes. Councilors trying to convince others why their choice is best is a nice part of the game.

    2. For several choices, flip-flopping has led to really interesting politicking. I think the key is that it be for simpler votes than this. For choices where the answers to multiple questions, it's essential for example. If I feel that question two is most important and vote AB to later see that AB is dead, but BB is in contention, switching is a good mechanic.

    But for this four way point combo, it's just meta-game faggery. Changing the order of your bottom choices to steal an extra point from another contender is not particularly interesting and because there are so many permutations could go on forever.
     
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  12. Murk Arcane

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    Yes, I have in the past flip-flopped and tried to convince others to change their vote, but it was never this ridiculous. I wasn't serious in saying we should lose any right to flip-flop, but I'd rather have a one-vote system than the current chaos.

    p.s - fuck the children

    edit: so far it looks like B is going to win regardless if its point based like the Barbarian's or DU's suggested optional preferential method.

    Boo.
     
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  13. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The voting is now closed, in every sense. The update is expected later tonight.
     
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  14. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    That's why you have optional preferential voting. With that, it doesn't matter. What ultimately matters (in this instance) is how many rank B ahead of C (or vice-versa). As opposed to how many of those that chose B, decide to dump C to the end of their vote in order to put that option down (which is really what's happening with the "every vote scores a point" counting we've just had).
     
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  15. laclongquan Arcane

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    You ALL are whores, political whores at that.

    Show me your other honours so that I can properly bugger you all!

    DO IT, FAGGOTS!
     
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  16. anus_pounder Arcane

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    Don't get gay.
     
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  17. Murk Arcane

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    RPGBrodex (more like bro dicks)
     
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  18. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    A New Age

    The 360s were a transitional time for the newly reforged Respublica. Early on in the decade, the Fourth Great Terror was still raging, and fear gripped the old Commonwealth territories. Eventually, however, the need for a Maxim Cassano and his brutal – if effective – methods eased. Ever so slowly, the independence-minded citizenry of the broken heathen state was ‘integrated’ into wider Respublican society. Intransigence was met with cold steel; acceptance with open arms. Commo converts multiplied quickly, as individuals began recognizing that one of the few ways to escape the frugality of the moral economy was to achieve status in the socio-economic hierarchy of the theocratic regime. Principled stands, which were in vogue during the initial stages of the occupation, were becoming few and far between, as the common folk elected to ‘get with the programme’. The last of the organized resistance was famously snuffed out at the Abaoji Park Shoot-Out on 26 December 365AU, during which the core of the withered resistance movement was destroyed by security forces.

    As the decade wore on, the emphasis of public policy began to undergo a subtle shift. The state’s decision makers, acknowledging the fact that the seemingly endless Hin’in War need not necessarily involve the Respublica any further, began looking at more peaceful ways to expand the faith and strengthen Codexia as a whole. Though Space remained a firm priority in budgetary committees and reviews, colonisation was also finally given a boost as a major discretionary spending item. Many believed that the Phyr expanse was the proverbial ‘promised land’. After all, initial surveys showed that there was the potential there for hundreds of human colonies – virtually centuries of guaranteed growth – and that the present Phyr population was small, scattered and weak. It seemed to be a perfect recipe for uninhibited, dynamic colonialism, of the sort that had initially propelled humanity to greatness. The period of 365-370AU saw the groundwork being prepared for a general annexation of large swathes of the Dead Zone into the Respublica’s recognised boundaries.

    That period also saw the culmination and eventual conclusion of the Hin’in War. The Raumeni has simply refused to fold. Though ten of their core worlds were by then little more than husks, they steadfastly and adamantly would not submit to the psychic xenos known as the Hin’in. A painful distraction that necessitated a large Hin’in garrison deployment until the very last days of the war, it is perhaps they that were the most instrumental factor in the humbling of the Arrogant Ones. In the end, the Hin’in simply could not defeat the Bron with their forces divided. Some analysts, of course, quickly pointed out that the real turning point of the war was in March 364AU, when Prime Alpha Mai’cor Uighar Bai’de perished in the Scorpion Star Cluster campaign. One of the most powerful Alphas of his time, the loss of Mai’cor almost shattered the Hin’in war effort against the Bron in one fell swoop. It badly demoralized his extensive forces and prompted a number of successive defeats at the hands of the Bron. Though the war would drag on for another two and a half years, the general armistice of September 366AU had been in sight for some time.

    Though some would come to call it the ‘Humbling of the Hin’in’, the peace treaty that resulted would ultimately prove dissatisfying to all parties concerned. The terms of the treaty saw the Hin’in dominion over the Raumeni ended, and a dozen star systems ceded to the hated Bron. The packs howled with frustration and rage, but a peace needed to be made, and after many years of brutal fighting there was not much else on the table. The Bron, for their part, were convinced that a final, decisive victory had only been a year away, at the most. One cannot be sure of that, but it is somewhat indicative that their leadership saw the merit in concluding the war diplomatically, when they did. It is not unreasonable to suggest that the Bron, too, were exhausted by that point – if not quite to the same extent as the Hin’in. Nonetheless, there was no small amount of frustration over the fact that enormous quantities of blood had been spilled in exchange for a paltry dozen star systems. Finally, the Raumen were understandably overjoyed to have been freed from Hin’in depredations. Yet, the nature of the peace deal meant that it was now up to individual Raumeni clans to carve out their new clanholds from the smouldering ruins of their ancient civilization.

    The unity that was characteristic of their magnificent war effort dissipated almost immediately after the war itself ended. In its stead, the age-old Raumeni traditions of clan politick once again took pride of place, and political infighting resumed with full force. All in all, the war had been a ‘humanitarian’ disaster of cataclysmic proportions, with little discernable result. Millions upon millions had been killed, or died as a result of the war, but there was little appreciable difference in the interstellar balance of power, thereafter. The Raumeni were once again a weak, terribly diminished regional power prone to political fracture. The Hin’in were themselves injured by the incredibly costly fighting, but probably remained the strongest active natural power across known space. The Bron were yet an unknown quantity, but all available reports continued to suggest that the Hin’in were their closest rivals, but that they continued to be slightly inferior in technology, if not numbers.

    In any case, once the proverbial ink had dried, the starscape ‘settled’ for a time. Fleets of warships were now moored at space docks awaiting refit, or mothballed, or awaiting the scrap heap – but there were no more imminent battles to be fought, no more planets to be conquered, no more bitter struggles to a soundless end. Instead, a semblance of tranquillity began to take effect. At least, it was tranquillity when compared to what had come before. The 360s ended with a whimper and not a bang. The 370s promised a different sort of adventure, however, as the Respublican government fermented a wanderlust amongst millions of the poor, the brave and the enterprising. The grand project was almost ready: a veritable exploration and exploitation flotilla would flood the Phyr expanse and gobble up as much real estate as it could, before settling down to begin the gradual process of expanding the Respublican domain.

    The green light was given in the early months of 374AU, and more than a thousand private and commercial vessels were unleashed on the Dead Zone, in short order. Many had pre-determined destinations: colonists, terraformers, miners and a plethora of experts in various fields were ‘allotted’ particular, already surveyed worlds. Others were simply given license to roam as they would, exploring and surveying a huge expanse that was still considered ‘wild’ and ‘untamed’. Accompanying this torrent of humanity was a large number of Space escorts – there to make certain that the civilians were not actively opposed by the remnants of the Phyr, at a significant monetary cost to the Respublican government. It was to be almost a year, before the first significant incident took place.

    TO BE CONTINUED...

    The Barbarian regrets that he was forced to cut this one in twain, but it was either this, or it would be tomorrow before you got anything.
     
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  19. Nickless Educated

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    I foresee one of three incidents:
    • The Amoneth take offense at our new conquest and subjugation of the Phyr and move to intervene.

      We piss off the Xenophobic Lizards somehow.

      We discover we have the exact same religion as the Lizards.
     
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  20. treave Arcane Patron

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    The Mother Lizard is but another aspect of Santi Maria, that sorta thing? Are we gonna make a New Testament-style revamp?
     
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  21. Murk Arcane

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    I love you, Barbarian.
     
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  22. laclongquan Arcane

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    Hehehe.

    This period is resemble European medieval history, the times of One Hundred Year War, when battles rages across Germanies principalities and Europe. All participants came out of it with notably little to show for the seas of bloods and bullions spent. We do well to stay the fuck out of it and start colonizing Phyr Dead Zone. The risk of conflict with Phyr and for some unknown reason the Turanei is there but the rewards are worthy of that. The bugs stay small, weak and divided and we dont have to worry too much about them. The Hiin has to get through them to attack us so that's it for the Hiin. Bron? Through both Hiin and bugs.

    Old enemies are settled, we can expand like mad in new territories. The final rewards of the ancient strategy.

    :smug: :monocle:
     
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  23. treave Arcane Patron

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    Colonialism, ho!

    Hopefully, being tied by the common bonds of the Marianite faith will keep our colonies as close to us as possible.
     
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  24. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The Barbarian hopes you can appreciate the fact that Part Deux will hit you with the consequence of a choice from roughly forty updates ago.

    Let that be hint enough.
     
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  25. laclongquan Arcane

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