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The Codexian Saga LP

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by The Barbarian, May 8, 2010.

  1. wjw Augur

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    Changing option 3 to B.


    Total: CBB

    Current vote 3:

    A 4
    B 4
    C 7
     
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  2. Luan Educated

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    I have changed my stance on option 3. I agree with the other councilors and have aligned my choice from C -> B, cutting back on social programs rather than court inflation.
     
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  3. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    I warned you. I told you that if we kept pushing the war the people would rise up. But you didn't listen, you wanted your war. This is a sad day for this council...
     
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  4. Jack █▓▒░ Patron

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    I change my vote on 3 to B.
    We can't have the entire economy come crashing down upon us later on.
     
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  5. treave Arcane Patron

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    These aren't people, these are popamole consoletard newfags who couldn't find their way off Leonid without a quest compass.

    :decline:
     
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  6. taplonaplo Scholar

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    Flipping on option 3 to B.(from A)
     
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  7. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    None of the Raumeni 'like' the Codexian state, at this point. Some stomach it better than others. But the bugs want their territory back. As of the point at which Codexia pulled out and left the Raumeni to their own devices, trust is at a premium.

    Though, on a personal level, they don't hate you as individuals, per se.

    EDIT:

    The Barbarian hopes that flip-floppers are editing their original vote posts, as they change their minds.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    It's just business, you know? :cool:
     
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  9. DarkUnderlord Professional Throne Sitter

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    There are realy only two paths through:
    1: Press onward, bear the cost and crush the Hin'in (BAB).
    2: Hold off (BBA).

    The fact the Raumen aren't on our side is worrying. It makes me less inclined to really do anything about them, especially when the Hin'in weren't even after us in the first place. Ideally, the Raumen need to be begging us to help them and fighting on our side. The only way for that to happen is to let the Hin'in have at them a bit more. We've at least exposed the Hin'in for who they are.

    With regard to the Commonwealth, it CANNOT be recognised. We are all Codexian and I'll be fucked if a bunch of niggers are going to run off with their own little forum. However, the fact they let "non-Commonwealthians" leave in peace needs to be respected. That leaves only one choice regardless of our path here...

    Choice A: B

    They've got fuck all military anyway so recognising them achieves what? Happy feelings? We should refuse recognition but concentrate on the Hin'in. We can deal with the rebel scum later. Particularly when the war budget is this pressed. There's a risk that more systems will join them but by refusing recognition, we can prevent a mass rebellion by indicating we mean business. Fighting them at this time is just poor form given the peaceful way they declared. There's still time to talk.

    With regard to the Hin'in, we could push them to the end. The argument being we've come too far to stop now and it's likely they see us as the next vassals. However, we've also earned their respect and shown them we mean business. They won't fuck with us lightly and again, also still disappointed the Raumen aren't siding with us yet.

    Choice B: B

    We hold. Let the Hin'in play with the Raumen. Hopefully they'll realise before it's too late that we're on their side. If not, then the Hin'in will consolidate and we may yet sue for peace... or buy enough time to go all out for a last hurrah.

    Choice C: A

    As we're taking the "hold off" path, our fleets won't decline badly at this point. It buys us time to sort out the Commonwealth and maintain a defense without risking the budget completely. By holding off, we can maintain the current fleet through this critical stage and by keeping social programs, prevent further colonies slipping away. We also need to avoid inflation at all costs. Out of control inflation is the hallmark of the loser.

    The Hin'in aren't in our territories yet and we've at least fucked with them enough to make them think twice about it.

    Consolidate the home-front, hope the Raumen see sense and buy ourselves some time to re-group.
     
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  10. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hmm, DarkUnderlord makes a good point in regard of option 2 B in the sense of them not going to easily mess with us in the future... What does the Council think about this point?
     
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  11. Heechee Liturgist

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    Aaah, so retards turned the empire into the mirror image of Soviet Union in late 80s, disintegrating shithole with no economy and strong tendency to increase inflow of material to a pointless conflict, so surprising. They even use the quantity-oriented battle tactics, want to crush a justified internal opposition with brute force they do not possess anymore, and are considering printing money :lol: . Enjoy your fall into obscurity. Not much point in voting anymore, but still:

    Choice a: A
    Choice b: B
    Choice c: A
     
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  12. treave Arcane Patron

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    I can forsee the Hin'in attempting to destabilize us in the future via inducements and trickery of our oh-so-patriotic newfag colonists. Like what I'm suspecting them of doing with the Commonwealth at present. More so than ever our unity is paramount. Any secessionist elements must be stamped out, there can be no quarter, so on and so forth.

    I personally believe that by maintaining our current levels of mobilization, we will be able to press our advantage against the Hin'in further while freeing up a minimal amount of troops to admonish the separatists. But of course, this isn't of great importance - we will likely be utilizing ground pounders against the Commonwealth to bring them back under control, and our boys of the Army haven't had much to do since Fleet has been taking the starring role in this conflict. The only reason I'm ambivalent about attempting to push the Hin'in out of Raumen space entirely is due to the Raumeni attitude towards us at the moment.

    Again, remember that option B doesn't mean negotiating a ceasefire. It only states that we scale back our meat grinder assaults while we deal with internal affairs.

    Would we have a vote on how to deal with the Raumeni Burden if we manage to successfully end this war with holdings in Raumen territories?

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  13. treave Arcane Patron

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    Voted for B myself. I would be satisfied with token tithes from the clans and allow them to patrol their own space, as long as they acknowledge our superiority and perhaps allow us favourable trading concessions. Still, as I mentioned, it really all depends on what we do with the Raumen once/if we push the Hin'in out. Attempting to hold on to an expanse filled with hostile bugs that is as large, if not larger, than our own Codexian Republic is a futile endeavor. Remember, the Confederacy spanned a thousand light years in size.

    As for the Raumen integrating themselves into Codexia, this will now require time and lots of credits with which to win their hearts and minds with. Either that or we put a boot to their insectoid neck?

    It may have worked had we tried to lead the Three Tone Alliance to victory, but that would've been epically bloody.
     
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  14. treave Arcane Patron

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    If I'm not mistaken, 150 clans were arrayed against us and the Hin'in because of the xenos factor.

    I doubt that more than half of the Raumen clans would have stood against us had we stuck with the alliance and tried to establish the Three Tone Alliance as the predominant force in the Confederacy - Raumen clans would still be nominally calling the shots, not aliens. The anti-alien sentiment would not be as strong. Also, we would have forced the Hin'in hand while they were still unprepared had the Three Toners managed to conquer Four Suns territory. Revealing their actions through deeds, not words, and sacrificing our lives to show that the Hin'in were planning something dastardly - what better way to demonstrate our nobility?
     
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  15. treave Arcane Patron

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    Of course safest scenario was to stay out of it (and possibly gain a Hin'in influenced Raumen Confederacy for a neighbour), or broker a peace with the bugs at the first chance we got.

    But hey, we Codexians are inquisitive folk, can't fault us for wanting to fully explore the side-quest before ending it.

    At the rate we're going we'll end up opening the door for some cosmic Lovecraftian horror to devour the galaxy because we "just couldn't leave well enough alone".
     
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  16. Nickless Educated

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    Holy crap, this is amazing. How the hell did I miss it?

    I'm voting...

    BAC

    These psychic aliens are scum, vulturous monsters that feed off the carcass of righteous civilisations, we must show our true friends we have not betrayed them. Life's meaning is found in struggle, and we will give ourselves willingly for the glory of mighty Codexia in the face of diabolical evil.

    All or nothing.
     
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  17. Nickless Educated

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    I firmly believe that Codexians are made of a sterner metal, and possessed of a noble warrior spirit, that will triumph over any adversity put in our path by troublesome alien delinquents. You will see, gentle brother, that a firm stance against these troublemakers will in the long-run bear fruit. We just need that final push to glory!
     
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  18. madbringer Prophet

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    Great Scott!

    Those friggin' opportunists, and their abhorrent "Commonwealth" be thrice damned. They're clearly the Enemy of The People, as bad as the Hin'in are. What proper patriot would strain their government so during a time of strife, nay, a battle that could well be for survival? Still, the time is not right to strike out against them; their time will come, and they are of little importance to the overall conflict thus far, anyway.

    So: BBA.

    We don't recognize the "Commonwealth". Fuck them. Fuck them and their pathetic claims, their insignificant military force and their traitorous ways.

    Let's slow up our production rate and let the economy stand up from being knocked prone by the "Commonwealth" insurgents.

    To that end, we hold off the war for the moment to catch our breath. If we knew the Hin'in are in the red of their health bar, i'd say we push on, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. What worth is winning the war when you lose everything else?

    I find it deeply ironic that the Raumen find us cynical, by the way. For all their scheming and plotting, they seem to be oblivious that they themselves brought this disaster upon their heads. :P
     
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  19. Nickless Educated

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    How very Raumen of you.

    Our people will come to believe in our Mighty Cause, and stand united once more against the psychic alien menace. We have the best minds, the best good old Codexian ingenuity, the best technology, and the strongest moral character to carry on against our nefarious foe until the bitter end. We will reward their Machiavellian schemes with nothing but death and decay. The deaths of our brethren will not be in vain. Never forget, never yield, never surrender!
     
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  20. The Barbarian Liturgist

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    The vote is ended.

    Option One -> B
    Option Two -> A
    Option Three -> A

    Interestingly enough, Azira's vote turned out to be the only exact duplicate of the outcome.

    Update forthcoming.
     
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  21. Jack █▓▒░ Patron

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    Indeed, we could be dead.
     
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  22. TNO Augur

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    Hmm, sometimes compromise is a bitch. I'd have rather gone peacenik then had us take the hit to military. But hey ,without complicated preferences, thats what you get. Arrows paradox, lol.

    I hope the troops we have at the moment kick some serious ass. Our space marine/terminator avatars have gotta count for something, right?
     
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  23. praetor Arcane

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    sweeeet.. this will end in disaster. why isn't everybody happy? i thought that's what we were trying to achieve over the last few council meetings...
     
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  24. praetor Arcane

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    considering the nonsensical choices that the majority of the councilors pushed forward even when faced with reasonable counter-arguments to their senseless ones, i'd say "yes" :P
     
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  25. laclongquan Arcane

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    Lots of cut-addicts in our council. They want to join with the cosmic death, donchaknow?
     
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