From Software The Dark Souls Discussion Thread

[Latelistener]

There aren't that many fire resistant enemies in the game to be honest. Lost Izalith plus demons outside of it and other enemies here and there.

 

[The_Mask]

Ceaseless is a cheese. And the Centipede is a joke.

Which leaves Quelaag, and it would make sense for her to be rezistant to her own element.

 

[Fenix]

Yeah, that's why I regret I didn't get 2 gorgoyle halebards, cause I have no idea you could do that. One for fire, other for lightning...
Eh..

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

I've always found the drop rates in DS1 weird. Perhaps I'm just an outlier, but I don't have time to playthrough that game more than once every 3 or 4 years. There's no chance of me having the time investment required to get much into NG+, and I'm sure as shit not going to dick about farming the same fights over and over just hoping for an Infrequent with a 5% drop rate. It just seems like they made an intentional decision somewhere along the line to hide a lot of the gear behind time gates instead of skill gates. Why not expand on what they did with O&S and reward players with interesting loot for skill challenges ("defeat boss X in under 1 minute" "defeat boss Y without rolling or blocking" "defeat boss Z while at SL1") that sort of thing. Just seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[Lutte]

intentional decision somewhere along the line to hide a lot of the gear behind time gates

I think you misunderstand dev intent here. I believe that rare drops, in a game like Dark Souls, where literally every single weapon is a viable weapon, where even something "bad" is still pretty usable upgraded, aren't intended as time gates (even though many of us may treat it as such when there is something that is appealing to our greed) but as flavor to make each run of a game unique. Like, maybe you might end up building around that black knight halberd because it dropped. Or maybe you won't because it didn't drop, and you won't restart the game solely for the purpose of getting it. Oh, but that baller side sword dropped instead while you explored the parish! now here's what made your char/run unique.

With a great variety of things that have low drop rates, over the course of a full game run, you're bound to get one or two things without having farmed for them. You notice them, and they made your playthrough unique. The end.

None of these things are anywhere near "ye getting an OP boost buddy" territory.

Note that this is a conscious design decision that goes hand in hand with the general design of a game like Dark Souls, whose focus is to make each playthrough unique through the way you routed in the game (did this newbie walk into the catacombs as soon as he left the asylum? did he build a magic focused character or a melee dood? is the melee dood a tank or a dodgefest? the culmination of various decisions, random happenstance (whether it be item drops or.. invasions!), paths taken in which order, npc quests failed or succeeded contribute to make any one playthrough of the game as unique as it ever gets in that genre of game without going into procedural generation garbage territory. Any two souls players who went through their first blind playthrough have a unique tale to tell.)

 

[Lyric Suite]

Amazing that that needs explanation. Dark Souls isn't Diablo.

Unique weapons, if they drop, will only help out in the very beginning because of the higher base damage of such weapons compared to regular weapons without upgrades. But that's about it.

Accessibility to upgrades is the only time gate.

 

[toro]

 

[Black Angel]

There aren't that many fire resistant enemies in the game to be honest.

And Gwyn is weak to fire. A Lord of Cinder, indeed.

With a great variety of things that have low drop rates, over the course of a full game run, you're bound to get one or two things without having farmed for them. You notice them, and they made your playthrough unique. The end.

My first proper playthrough ever (albeit unfinished because my laptop decided to just fucking die at the time) had a lucky drop of Black Knight Greatsword. One of my best run ever.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

. A Lord of Cinder,

Makes sense.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Well, he did set himself on fire because his family is in shambles, of course he would be vulnerable to it.

 

[Latelistener]

Speaking of, I've been looking into the armors that you upgrade with twinkling titanite that you can get relatively early on, because I don't want the hassle of grinding out three dozen Titanite Chunks for my armor followed by four Slabs that are an even bigger pain to get. Anyone got ideas about this?

Paladin Armor is among the best sets in the game. Combine it with Giant Gauntlets and they'll give you the perfect amount of poise (61). You can add Giant Helmet for that prestigious look. I don't think you can get it early, but you can try of course.

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Also, it's not chunks, but you will still need a lot. And as with chunks there is only one good place to farm it.

 

[Lyric Suite]

You don't use slabs on armor. Not that it is THAT big of a deal to farm them if you are used to MMO grinding but i'm going to assume you don't want to do that.

Chunks are no more of a pain to farm than Twinkling.

 

[Caim]

Not sure if it isn't just easier to farm for the souls to buy twinkling from the giant blacksmith.

 

[The_Mask]

If you defeat Seath, farming for Twinkling is very easy. If not, if you hunt the lizards at the start, and you trade with Snuggly, it should get you to +4 just fine.

 

[cvv]

Grate video, very relatable. Squilla is an awesome Soulsrunner in general.

 

[NJClaw]

Dark Souls literally saved my life. At the time I was in a terrible relationship, but I was so used to my day-to-day life being horrible that in my head looking for something else wasn't even an option. Then I got addicted to this series and, after something like 100 combined runs of DS1, DS2, BB, and DeS, I realized that maybe enjoying playing a videogame more than spending time with your significant other isn't that normal. Thank you, Dark Souls.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I played all three Souls games and the first one is just special. Demon's Souls is next i'm just waiting until i get my hands on the 5600x as my 2600 still struggles in the emulator (slows to a crawl when i roll into boxes for instance).

Too bad i'll never play BB. Fucking Sony.

 

[fork]

Pretty sure Bloodborne is overrated, just as Demon's Souls is btw.

 

[NJClaw]

Pretty sure Bloodborne is overrated, just as Demon's Souls is btw.

Bloodborne is a masterpiece, definitely one of the best games of its generation and arguably the best one.

Lyric Suite, do yourself a favor and borrow a PS5 from a friend, install Lance's patch to play at 60 fps, and enjoy From's best game since DS1.

 

[Lyric Suite]

PS5?

 

[fork]

Pretty sure Bloodborne is overrated, just as Demon's Souls is btw.

Bloodborne is a masterpiece, definitely one of the best games of its generation and arguably the best one.

It's not. But who cares.
Imagine suggesting buying a fucking Sony console in 2021, lol.

 

[NJClaw]

PS5?

Unlocking the framerate, the PS4 can't maintain 60 stable fps. Even the PS5 sometimes drops to 40-50 when it gets crowded, but from what I've seen it's not that common. An entirely different experience compared to the 30 fps of the original game.

Imagine suggesting buying a fucking Sony console in 2021, lol.

Lyric Suite, do yourself a favor and borrow a PS5 from a friend, install Lance's patch to play at 60 fps, and enjoy From's best game since DS1.

 

[Latelistener]

Too bad i'll never play BB. Fucking Sony.

Sony said they're going to port more exclusives to PC. Zero Dawn was the first, now it's Gays Done. There is a chance BB will get to PC eventually. If not, there will be an emulator sooner or later.

 

[fork]

PS5?

Unlocking the framerate, the PS4 can't maintain 60 stable fps. Even the PS5 sometimes drops to 40-50 when it gets crowded, but from what I've seen it's not that common. An entirely different experience compared to the 30 fps of the original game.

Imagine suggesting buying a fucking Sony console in 2021, lol.

Lyric Suite, do yourself a favor and borrow a PS5 from a friend, install Lance's patch to play at 60 fps, and enjoy From's best game since DS1.

Codexers don't have friends, certainly not ones owning PS5s.

 

[Silverfish]

Pretty sure Bloodborne is overrated, just as Demon's Souls is btw.

What rating do you click for a post that's only half right?