From Software The Dark Souls Discussion Thread

[Manjuice Nutella]

Acquired this game, and looks really interesting but controls are absolutely horrid ... even DMC3 port was more playable on mouse+kb than this crap. Gonna wait for modders to fix it(tm) I guess, real shame cause game looks decent.

My suggestion is to ignore mouse entirely. WSAD for movement, E for block/left hand, IKJL for menu navigation, arrows for camera/X for focus camera and Num 5/6 for fast/strong attack works fine with me.

 

[Machine]

My suggestion is to ignore mouse entirely. WSAD for movement, E for block/left hand, IKJL for menu navigation, arrows for camera/X for focus camera and Num 5/6 for fast/strong attack works fine with me.

Thanks, gonna give this a shot.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

What kind of armor and shield is that?

Eastern armor, elite knight gloves and pants, gargoyle hat, dark knight shield.

I've since replaced the eastern armor with elite knight armor, since I could upgrade it with titanite shards I was able to bump it up to more powerful than the un-upgraded eastern armor, which required twinkling.

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

WELL I AM DONE WITH THIS FUCKING GAME.

i was fucking hyped, for fucking months was waiting till this piss poor console port came out. and now uninstall.exe. simply fucking enough. ddint care for poor perfomnce, retarded settings-options, gfwl, fucked up camera, tutorial hints only for controler/how the fuck do i kick in this game??? right triiger +sth ffs? doesnt work on kb+m) fucking namco bandai/from software/havok/dark souls prepare to die edition ads every time i open main menu, fucking trash mob respawning when boss kills me/thats fucking retarded even in diablo the mobs didint respwan till new game/

i died like 20-30 times before i even get to taurus demon. was ok. killed him on 3rd. died another 30 times before i reached gargoyles. that was also ok./killed them on 2nd try without solaire. and than i went to undead burg lower. fucking dogs. one shots. fucking thief- two shots unless they jump on my back and slitt my throat. and than comes FUCKING CAPRA DEMON. I DIE LIKE 3 SECONDS AFTER I ENTER HIS SHITHOLE. WHOS FUCKING IDEA WAS THAT FIGHT? THATS NOT FUN AND BY FUN I MEAN TRY 30 TIMES AND FINALLY BARELY MANAGE TO KILL MOTHERFUCKER. ITS RETARDED. I MAKE LIKE THREE FUCKING STEPS AND THOSE TWO FUCKING DOGS BLOCK ME/STUN ME AND THAN FUCKING GOAT KILLS ME WITH TWO SWEEPS. OHHH AND RETARDED CAMERA DOESNT HELP EITHER, ALL I CAN SEE IS FUCKING BRICKS AND GRASS. FUCK FUCK FUCK CAN EVEN MAKE TO THE STAIRS.


yes i watched/read all walkthroughs, still doesnt work. fuck this shit i was fucking happy to pay fucking 49euros to from software for this fucking port but after 3 days of "checking" the product i am done with it.

anyway 20sth sl knight with halber+5/drake sword+shield and elite knight armor. probably in couple next days gona grind in dark forest or graveyard but fuck this fucking CAPRA DEMON and the nearest fucking firelink is like 20 trash mobs away. killing him is essential to progress so it seems i am done with derp souls. derpiest fight ever. FUCKING CAPRA DEMON

inb4 casual, watch walkthroughs, learn his patterns, sprint for the stairs, kill his dogs, use trainer, play online and other bs.

 

[abija]

Also, protip: one of the enemies there does not respawn and drops one of if not THE best bow in the game. Shoving everyone off a cliff, not such a great idea.

Usually loot from mobs that die in weird places appears after reload.
Also for twinkling titanite and other stuff there's a stupid event in asylum revisited: http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Snuggly

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I hate to tell you this but you may be bad at videogames.

 

[Surf Solar]

meanwhileInPoland

Bro, I somehow understand your rage, I am some loser that cannot into twitch combat like DS has too (just read my previous posts before). But the game is still nice. What class are you playing, knight? That is the same as me. Try to put some points into endurance (I dunno if it is called like that in english) so the capra demon can hit your shield a couple of times more without you running out of stamina. With the drakes sword those dogs shouldn't be a problem at all, they should die in 2, atleast 3 strokes. When they are gone, the demon is really not that hard. Also, by reading your post I am assuming you always run through the entire Undead Burg (first across the bridge with those 3 fags that throw firebombs at you etc?) - if you start at the firelink shrine and go into that tunnel where that rat is, just open the shortcut to the zombie female merchant straight ahead. You can run through the entire tunnel, then you already arrive at the parrish where you only have to kill 2 or 3 more dogs. That is the fastest route there, imo. Eventually you will beat him. What helped me in those "helpless" moments where I don't know what to do next is atleast putting some basic upgrades to armor and especially shield. Maybe it was just a "Placebo", knowing that I "feel" stronger and more defensive, but eventually I could defeat the Capra Faggot with only having to sip one flask of this Estus stuff.

 

[Average Manatee]

How to beat Capra:

As soon as you enter, run at him.

He will use his lunge attack, roll straight towards him though it.

Kill Dog 1 while he is recovering. It will always be right beside him/behind him.

Circle around Capra and keep him in between you and the other dog, so you don't get ganked. Block or roll as you please to keep up with his attacks. When he uses a big attack again, kill 2nd dog.

Beat Capra easily.


The only way you can really lose the fight is to get ganked from behind by a dog. Killing the first one ASAP and then keeping watch on the second is the way to go.

 

[meanwhileInPoland]

I hate to tell you this but you may be bad at videogames.

ffs. thats it? retarded fight design and your answer is you suck?thanks bro.


i had fun with this game till that fucking fight. i dont mind dieing hundreds times, learning every fucking move and enemies attacks. thats fucking obvious with game designed like dark souls. i rage about one fucking retarded fight. thats it. its not that capra demon is difficult or something. its retarded small area, with 2 seconds to react once you enter and 95%chances to get stuck on my way to stairs. in every solutions/protip they say IF you survive first ten seconds in that fight ad kill those dogs you win. or if you get to the stairs and dont get stun locked...

or fuck it maybe i do suck at this game. gonna play sthing easier. darksiders 2 on easy

Also, by reading your post I am assuming you always run through the entire Undead Burg (first across the bridge with those 3 fags that throw firebombs at you etc?)

yep. beeing retarded but still having funo_O

f you start at the firelink shrine and go into that tunnel where that rat is, just open the shortcut to the zombie female merchant straight ahead.

fuck me didnt know about that shortcut. found male shopkeeper but not female. thanks!

What helped me in those "helpless" moments where I don't know what to do next is atleast putting some basic upgrades to armor and especially shield. Maybe it was just a "Placebo", knowing that I "feel" stronger and more defensive, but eventually I could defeat the Capra Faggot with only having to sip one flask of this Estus stuff

fuck now i want to grind more. fuck it tomorrow just one last run for that shortcut.

this game could be so 10/10, but there are so many small irritating things. there is no one thing that entirely sucks in this game like fighting system in twicher 2 or dragons age 2 plot but still...

 

[abija]

TBH luck is a big factor in how you experience the game for the first time especially without any spoilers. I got the sword from first black knight I meet, after getting raped first time by capra, 2nd try I went in 2h mode, started swinging: VICTORY!

 

[felipepepe]

EASIEST WAY EVER: Enter area, dogde attack & dogs and run upstairs, until you're in the very right corner, on top of a very narrow ledge. Capra can't reach you there, he'll just climb the stairs, come close and then fall back to the ground. So just wait for the dogs, kill them and then you can just keep droping on capra's head and running back to the top of the stairs.

 

[Average Manatee]

EASIEST WAY EVER: Enter area, dogde attack & dogs and run upstairs, until you're in the very right corner, on top of a very narrow ledge. Capra can't reach you there, he'll just climb the stairs, come close and then fall back to the ground. So just wait for the dogs, kill them and then you can just keep droping on capra's head and running back to the top of the stairs.

He can most certainly hit you there. Maybe it's only a chance due to his AI, but he definitely can.

 

[Surf Solar]

I just watched a youtube video where a guy (also a Knight) killed Havel. He took off all his armor before so he is a lot faster and tried to backstab/outroll him. Now I want to try this out aswell! Question: If I unequip all my armor and just hold the shield/sword, will I still have the same blocking amount (so incase I got hit while having the shield up, the shield absorbs it) ? If yes, lolwat why didn't I know this before. Some enemies are so easy to kill if you are just a bit quicker. Outrolling that huge dragon tooth he wields when you are fast is easy, not so while wearing heavy armor. Any tips?

 

[Utgard-Loki]

they actually fixed his pathing and he can and will follow you up there. it's still a good idea to go up there, because sometimes he will fuck around on the ground so you can throw some firebombs on his head or do a drop attack.

i wish artorias armor was better. or maybe i should have defeated him before i took down ornstein and fatman and got his.

edit: Surf Solar: yes, blocking with your shield pretty much ignores your armor, so if it has 100 physical resist you should be golden. also, don't roll, get naked and strafe him. rolling will end in homing attack disaster when you fuck up the timing, which you will.

 

[Average Manatee]

Blocking from shield is independent of armor worn. Wearing under 25% equip weight gives you a small speed up over 50%, so make sure you end up just under those breakpoints. Also armor makes you regen stamina somewhat slower, actually make your shield more effective once you take it off.

 

[Surf Solar]

Well ok, let's do this. I improved my Knights shield to +7 or so and will unequip everything. It looked so easy on the video.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

ffs. thats it? retarded fight design and your answer is you suck?thanks bro.

I really don't have much in the way of useful information. I think I was roughly the same soul level and class when I killed him and had worse equipment. How the fight went for me was I had my shield up, ran up the stairs while blocking as much as possible and squealing like a little girl, killed both dogs with one thrust of my sword, then started running a route with capra.
I'd go up the stairs, lure him up, then jump off the side. Waited for him to jump down, then whack him once or twice while he was standing back up after the drop. Repeat forever!

After I did the fight my Dark Souls buddy said he used the stairs to get a drop-attack on capra for a bunch of damage, but since I didn't do that myself I couldn't tell you any specifics on how to manage it.

One general protip that I didn't learn initially but have eventually figured out, once you know the tells and attack patterns for enemies it's more efficient to have your shield down for short bursts of faster endurance regeneration, then bring it up to block hits. Less chance of running out of endurance and getting staggered. I don't think I figured that out by capra.

 

[felipepepe]

One general protip that I didn't learn initially but have eventually figured out, once you know the tells and attack patterns for enemies it's more efficient to have your shield down for short bursts of faster endurance regeneration, then bring it up to block hits. Less chance of running out of endurance and getting staggered. I don't think I figured that out by capra.

This is vital, especially for very agressive bosses, like Gywn or the DLC Guardian.

 

[Malpercio]

Ah, and btw - those human enemies in the black root garden (after unlocking the gate with one of Andreis items) rape me hard again. Is it just me being too stupid for this game again or are they just on a high level?

Try to go there as a human, if you are playing online.

 

[Surf Solar]

Oh god I finally defeated that fucker Havel! Since day 1 I played this game he killed me so many times, oh sweet vengeance. :D Being able to roll and dodge very fast plus the ability to hold a "strong" sword really does wonders, just dont let yourself get hit. If only I would have known this tip with the armor=!= shield one earlier. Now I know why you sometimes say that armor isn't THAT important!

 

[Average Manatee]

One general protip that I didn't learn initially but have eventually figured out, once you know the tells and attack patterns for enemies it's more efficient to have your shield down for short bursts of faster endurance regeneration, then bring it up to block hits. Less chance of running out of endurance and getting staggered. I don't think I figured that out by capra.

This is vital, especially for very agressive bosses, like Gywn or the DLC Guardian.

Indeed. It's the difference between staggered halfway into an enemy's combo and them finishing the combo with you fully ready to counter attack. With the ring that improves stamina regeneration its not too hard to have 90-100% stamina at that point.

Oh god I finally defeated that fucker Havel! Since day 1 I played this game he killed me so many times, oh sweet vengeance. :D Being able to roll and dodge very fast plus the ability to hold a "strong" sword really does wonders, just dont let yourself get hit. If only I would have known this tip with the armor=!= shield one earlier. Now I know why you sometimes say that armor isn't THAT important!

Just going two handing and hacking the shit out of things works for so many areas since the chain stagger just wins the day. May not work on Havel without a really big weapon but works on a surprising number of other things. The trick is to get the first one or two hits in. But even my lvl 1 character two-handing a club can stagger 20 foot tall giants to death once they are recovering from an attack.

 

[felipepepe]

Just going two handing and hacking the shit out of things works for so many areas since the chain stagger just wins the day. May not work on Havel without a really big weapon but works on a surprising number of other things. The trick is to get the first hit in.

Yeah, I created a new char and got the Black Knight Sword, now I just go two-handed, doing that great spinning running attack on everyone...good fun.

 

[praetor]

Blocking from shield is independent of armor worn. Wearing under 25% equip weight gives you a small speed up over 50%, so make sure you end up just under those breakpoints. Also armor makes you regen stamina somewhat slower, actually make your shield more effective once you take it off.

25% is significantly faster than 50%, not to mention it has more iframes and better recovery (both improved to insane levels by the dwgr... thank fuck they nerfed it)

and i can only imagine the rage of people having so much trouble with Capra when they meet fuckers like O&S, the 4Kunts, Artorias, the AL archers, Tomb of Giants, Crystal Caves...

 

[toroid]

Yeah, I created a new char and got the Black Knight Sword, now I just go two-handed, doing that great spinning running attack on everyone...good fun.

That shit is off the hook. Also, the Black Knight Sword does bonus damage against Chaos Demons. (It seems like +50%)

 

[Average Manatee]

and i can only imagine the rage of people having so much trouble with Capra when they meet fuckers like O&S, the 4Kunts, Artorias, the AL archers, Tomb of Giants, Crystal Caves...

Out of all of those the only ones I would consider harder are O&S. It's only multiple enemies that is truly difficult in Dark Souls. 4Kunts are staggered, AL archers are cheese until you realize you can just run up to them and kill them. Stuff like Artorias? Anyone should be able to easily school him as long as they have a half decent shield.