From Software The Dark Souls II Megathread™

[Cromwell]

The game is trolling me, I killed countles heide knights and now have the whole fucking set, except the one thing I want, their sword.

 

[Invictus]

I wanted the heide set too!
The first 2 knights dont spawn anymore and they only gave me the gloves only but the whoke set looks so cool...I got almost a full set of ancient armor so might go into full farming mode for the rest

 

[Cromwell]

I wanted the heide set too!
The first 2 knights dont spawn anymore and they only gave me the gloves only but the whoke set looks so cool...I got almost a full set of ancient armor so might go into full farming mode for the rest

I have one knight left that is spawning (i cleared the whole tower) but he uses a fucking pike so I dont know if he can drop a sword. Hes also the hardest for me since I have problems with enemies that have large range, luckily my lightning fucks his lance. If I dont get the sword I am thinking of using a bonfire ascetic at the first bonfire and farming the first two knights again since theres only one other mob and the swords knights are rather easy for me.

 

[Jezal_k23]

Finished up DS1 + DLC today and will start this tomorrow... should be great. Preparing myself for DS3.

 

[Caim]

I'm still working through myself, but I don't think there's necessarily an order other than needing to do certain things to unblock certain paths.

Both Heide's and the Forest eventually go to the same place (you can go in the bird's nest after fighting The Pursuer to go there) but you need to clear Heide's to be able to go the other way through the mechanism on the path there from Majula.

If you go via the Forest and the Pursuer you can get far enough in the bastille to eventually open up a backtracking route to get to the areas you'd have gotten to via the viking area, but you don't need to so you can skip Heide's Tower of Fire and Flames.

 

[ultimanecat]

I'm thinking you have to talk to or kill Licia after the Dragonrider so that you can move the mechanism that leads to Huntsman's Copse and beyond. Don't have to clear the boss in the Cathedral though. Not an expert though, I'm on my first play through, so maybe there's a skip?

 

[Caim]

I'm thinking you have to talk to or kill Licia after the Dragonrider so that you can move the mechanism that leads to Huntsman's Copse and beyond. Don't have to clear the boss in the Cathedral though. Not an expert though, I'm on my first play through, so maybe there's a skip?

Good point. I don't know that for sure.

Also, if you go this way you won't be able to talk to Lucatiel enough to have her show up at Aldia's place and give you her stuff.

 

[Mozg]

Heide sword has the damn mace swings on the 1HR1 <puke>

 

[Cromwell]

Heide sword has the damn mace swings on the 1HR1 <puke>

which is awesome since I use a mace since the beginning. I didnt get the sword. I cleared the whole tower and am now trying to beat the dragonslayer. I died about 15 times to the last heide knight, raging excessivly, since I couldnt get a hit in, until I realised I can just roll backwards and knock him on the head. Given my quick thinking abilities I think it will take a while until I kill the dragonslayer.

After I have everything there I will try to respawn the heide knights and farm the sword again.

 

[Mozg]

Other people play videogames differently than I doooo

 

[Rolk's Drifter]

I don't give a shit about about lore, story or transitions making sense. This may seem strange to you but some of the things you like, others don't. It's crazy but that's just how the world is.

I can understand that, but they should be taken into account when comparing these two games.

But you didn't ask for a comparison between the games. You asked why we like DS2. Those are different questions. To me DS2 isn't really a sequel and I get why people are pissed at that. You should be. But that's From's dirty business dealings not ours. Please stop trying to use DS2/B-Team as a scapegoat because you don't want to criticise From.

PS: I was wrong about Heides's knights.. you were correct, they do have instant attack. I rarely fight them so, my bad.

After I have everything there I will try to respawn the heide knights and farm the sword again.

You should be able to do that by joining the Champions covenant. Just in case you don't want to use an ascetic, not that they are that bad.

Also you might want to wait until you get more gear that raises item discovery. Farming can get very frustrating in this game..

 

[Amazing chest]

But you didn't ask for a comparison between the games. You asked why we like DS2. Those are different questions. To me DS2 isn't really a sequel and I get why people are pissed at that. You should be. But that's From's dirty business dealings not ours. Please stop trying to use DS2/B-Team as a scapegoat because you don't want to criticise From.

I did wonder why some prefer DS2 over DS1, although I didn't specifically ask for comparisons between them as a whole package. My first post here was way too aggressive, and I have actually started to appreciate DS2 more lately. Still, it's odd to read how some love DS2 more than DS1. But as you said, that's how the world is, and all I can do is argue about it on the internet, which can help me understand others.

I'm curious, why don't you consider DS2 to be a sequel? And what do you mean by From's dirty business dealings?

 

[Cromwell]

I don't give a shit about about lore, story or transitions making sense. This may seem strange to you but some of the things you like, others don't. It's crazy but that's just how the world is.

I can understand that, but they should be taken into account when comparing these two games.

But you didn't ask for a comparison between the games. You asked why we like DS2. Those are different questions. To me DS2 isn't really a sequel and I get why people are pissed at that. You should be. But that's From's dirty business dealings not ours. Please stop trying to use DS2/B-Team as a scapegoat because you don't want to criticise From.

PS: I was wrong about Heides's knights.. you were correct, they do have instant attack. I rarely fight them so, my bad.

After I have everything there I will try to respawn the heide knights and farm the sword again.

You should be able to do that by joining the Champions covenant. Just in case you don't want to use an ascetic, not that they are that bad.

Also you might want to wait until you get more gear that raises item discovery. Farming can get very frustrating in this game..

Yes thanks. I also read about CoC while sitting here and getting bored, its faster this way than to wait until I get my hands on ascetics. For discovery I already have the merchants hat and the dragon watch parma (I think I got it after beating the dragon in head?). After that I will work my way towards different stats and leave faith at 36 to use some very big swords which I will infuse with lightning while I throw lightnings.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Is there a recommended order in which to do the areas or is it linear anyways? I just did the Forrest and now I am on my way to heides tower with level 27

Forest first. Then it doesn't matter much, you can go either way. But the forest is clearly the first area to explore with the weakest enemies.

 

[Rolk's Drifter]

For discovery I already have the merchants hat and the dragon watch parma (I think I got it after beating the dragon in head?). After that I will work my way towards different stats and leave faith at 36 to use some very big swords which I will infuse with lightning while I throw lightnings.

Well you're headed in the right direction. In the wharf you will find a very big sword. Plus a knight set maybe on the way... so Paladin build complete. I believe you can buy lightnings from the Cathedral covenant. It's an AOE spell.

And yeah the parma drops from the dragon. That's a good early set up for farming. Rusty coins also boost item discovery if you have any.

Hmm.. not sure if this counts as spoilers but I believe your faith is high enough to get some free shit.

I did wonder why some prefer DS2 over DS1, although I didn't specifically ask for comparisons between them as a whole package. My first post here was way too aggressive, and I have actually started to appreciate DS2 more lately. Still, it's odd to read how some love DS2 more than DS1. But as you said, that's how the world is, and all I can do is argue about it on the internet, which can help me understand others.

I'm curious, why don't you consider DS2 to be a sequel? And what do you mean by From's dirty business dealings?

Or you could accept it and move on.

DS1 is a story-fag game like Planescape. DS2 is a combat-fag game like TOEE. Or Alien and Alien 2. Different genres, same setting/franchise. Not really a sequel imo.

They lied to you and took your money.

 

[Cromwell]

I dont remember the first beeing heavy on the storyfaggotry, it certainly didnt hook me ike the second did, and for me both told the story roughly in the same way (didnt finish 1 so I dont know if that changes). Farming heide knights at the moment with CoC for respawn. Can someone explain why I am locked into an animation especially if my weapon is heavy but these giant like knights with their 10 foot clubs can rotate while bringing said club down on me? Normally they should be fucking slow and easily avoided but if I wait until they start their attack and the club or sword or whatever the knight uses comes near me and I dodge they are easily able to rotate and hit me wherever I go. What is this shit.

Annoyed me the first time I was here but I despawned them so I had a easier way to the boss in Case I die often, now I cant respawn them and have to kill always one to reach one heide knight.

 

[Mozg]

You can adjust your own aim with a lot of weapons, either manually or just with tracking a locked on opponent (e.g. a battle axe 1HR2 tracks like crazy, while IIRC you get a window to manually aim a 2H greatsword hack with the left? analog once you hit the button).

Use blunt weapons on the giant knight type enemies, they have very annoying attack properties but the right kinds of weapons (mace, craftsman hammer, etc) will kill them very fast.

 

[Cromwell]

this game hates me. I have 3 legs, 1 armor, 3 helmets and 2 gloves from the heide guys. I am crying on the inside and will never farm anything again in this game.

 

[Rolk's Drifter]

What is this shit.

It's Dark souls

Your best bet for them is to walk in range to bait an attack then walk out and wait for them to finish. Preferably in one smooth action. With a mace you can crush them in one flurry. Start with a running attack then fuck their day up.

Yeah farming can be a bitch. Honestly tho, you'll probably end up using a weapon in the next area anyway so you may as well just move on. You'll more item discovery gear later as well. Can always come back.

And yeah, I'm just using storyfag as an umbrella term for.. pretty much anything other than combat.

 

[Caim]

Wait, hold on.

The Heide Knights drop their armor as well?

 

[Cromwell]

Wait, hold on.

The Heide Knights drop their armor as well?

yes everything I have it in abundance.

What is this shit.

It's Dark souls

Your best bet for them is to walk in range to bait an attack then walk out and wait for them to finish. Preferably in one smooth action. With a mace you can crush them in one flurry. Start with a running attack then fuck their day up.

Yeah farming can be a bitch. Honestly tho, you'll probably end up using a weapon in the next area anyway so you may as well just move on. You'll more item discovery gear later as well. Can always come back.

And yeah, I'm just using storyfag as an umbrella term for.. pretty much anything other than combat.

normally they are easy especially since I use a mace but when farming I tend to make mistakes. My normal way is bait the attack roll backwards wait until they are in a 3 chain run towards them and kill them before they lift the hammer again.

Is it possible to block these guys (or other such heavy hitters like bosses) I never tried and almost never block anything because my first instict is always roll or step and then I forget I even have a shield.

 

[Caim]

Wait, hold on.

The Heide Knights drop their armor as well?

yes everything I have it in abundance.

Must be SotFS stuff, because with all my playthroughs I never got even one piece of armor.

 

[Cromwell]

I got it, and the journey took me from sl51 to 65.

 

[sullynathan]

I have yet to find a good farming spot

 

[Mozg]

Random useless collector crap drops much more often in NG+, I dunno if ascetics do the trick or not.