The Elder Scrolls Online - gone B2P

[Kane]

another generic wow clone who wouldve thunk

 

[Kane]

reupload of teh video http://www.noshitshurlock.com/new-the-elder-scrolls-online-gameplay-footage/

 

[escom]

Another link: http://jonny.frogz.hu/upload/titok.mp4

 

[Zeriel]

It's really too bad "generic WoW clone" means "nothing like WoW" in the common parlance. A WoW clone that actually managed to achieve WoW's combat engine would be at least a fairly decent game in its own right.

 

[Excidium]

At least the UI doesn't suffer for a console's sake.

Really?They thought is good idea to reposition the players view when he open the inventory going in to ugly overview?And everything is in rows.All game must look more like this:

Spoiler

That inventory looks worse. In the TESO inventory at least items are listed by name as they should be.

 

[Brayko]

I just wanna punch the guy who's playing. People that run around like spastics piss me the fuck off. I don't care if he's putting on a show for the camera.

 

[Creamy Muffin]

World looks bland compared to say gw2. Character and npc animations are laughable. Combat looks clunky as hell and what's with the one spell and mobs taking forever to die.

Also lol @ being glued to NPCs when you're taking generic quests from them.

 

[abnaxus]

Looks really bland and boring.

skip tamriel in TES VI

TES VI: Akavir

 

[Rahdulan]

They're in full damage control mode. It's still up on that Russian site.

http://riotpixels.com/dvadtsat-minut-gejmpleya-the-elder-scrolls-online/

 

[Gerrard]

WoW's combat engine

The what? How exactly is it any different from any other point&click MMO?

 

[Kane]

It's really too bad "generic WoW clone" means "nothing like WoW" in the common parlance. A WoW clone that actually managed to achieve WoW's combat engine would be at least a fairly decent game in its own right.

lol now.

WoW is shit.

 

[Zeriel]

WoW's combat engine

The what? How exactly is it any different from any other point&click MMO?

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation, or even if they're moving. This sounds really minor, but in practice the difference is astounding when you play another MMO that isn't WoW. The interrupt system for casting spells (tricking people into using their interrupts by cancelling casts right when they're about to interrupt, et cetera).

Some of the good elements of WoW's system were actually later patched out or dumbed down because modern gaming, unfortunately, but everything that is terrible about WoW does not change the fact it has the best combat of any MMO out there, on a basic level. It's why the game has been so ridiculously popular despite all its flaws and glaring technical age (it was hideous and ugly from day 1, even back in 2004, when compared to other games on the market).

Any MMO that nailed the combat system and wasn't otherwise a total disaster would compete with WoW. It's kind of funny how their competitors never notice this, and instead try to compete with 200M voice acting budgets and titties and innovating their way out of the MMO space (see: Guild Wars 2).

 

[Creamy Muffin]

After playing GW2, WoWs combat is simply unpalatable.

 

[Kane]

After playing GW2, WoWs combat is simply unpalatable.

with GW2s combat being a verbatim copy of WoW's combat with a useless gimmick slapped on top, your comment is highly ironic.

mash all the buttens

 

[Black]

After playing GW1, GW2 combat is simply floaty and retarded.

 

[Creamy Muffin]

I was referring more to the general feel of it. Gw2 combat feels fluid since you can dodge and a lot of skills are tied into movement, while in WoW it felt like I was dragging around a ball and a chain when fighting.

Played GW1 and I do miss the MTG style skillset building, but movement was not one of its better points.

 

[Gerrard]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

Like in most (if not all) MMOGs.

 

[Kane]

Played GW1 and I do miss the MTG style skillset building, but movement was not one of its better points.

Even movement in GW1 is superior to GW2, both from a technical standpoint and a gameplay mechanic. It boggles the mind how a.net could screw up that much, but screw up. they. did.

 

[Zeriel]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

In a real-time combat system like all MMOs, the depth of the combat should arise out of the restrictions of the abilities and their relative merits, not whether or not you are trapped in some flashy animation. But I am pretty sure no one actually wants to discuss the merits of said combat systems since every reply to this so far has just been the equivelant of cognitive surrender ("lolololol mmos lolololol WoW"), so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Kane]

But I am pretty sure no one actually wants to discuss the merits of said combat systems since every reply to this so far has just been the equivelant of cognitive surrender ("lolololol mmos lolololol WoW"), so I'll just leave it at that.

While it's true what you say, combat in most MMOs including WoW *IS* "lolololol mmos lolololol WoW". That's part of the reason why they are so shit. Of course it's a plus if you have to manage ressources in combat, but that is just the icing on top of the cake.

 

[DraQ]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

In a real-time combat system like all MMOs, the depth of the combat should arise out of the restrictions of the abilities and their relative merits, not whether or not you are trapped in some flashy animation.

So you prefer to be trapped in some cooldown instead?

 

[SerratedBiz]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

In a real-time combat system like all MMOs, the depth of the combat should arise out of the restrictions of the abilities and their relative merits, not whether or not you are trapped in some flashy animation.

So you prefer to be trapped in some cooldown instead?

Actually, WoW has a global cooldown which is activated by using most abilities so no, button mashing is not an alternative. This was actually the hardest part for me to get used to post-GW2, the fact that abilities aren't queued if you hit the key during the global CD and instead get the "that ability isn't ready" message instead.

 

[Kane]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

In a real-time combat system like all MMOs, the depth of the combat should arise out of the restrictions of the abilities and their relative merits, not whether or not you are trapped in some flashy animation.

So you prefer to be trapped in some cooldown instead?

Actually, WoW has a global cooldown which is activated by using most abilities so no, button mashing is not an alternative. This was actually the hardest part for me to get used to post-GW2, the fact that abilities aren't queued if you hit the key during the global CD and instead get the "that ability isn't ready" message instead.

WoW also has a resource cost associated with every ability. Something which GW2 does not.

 

[SerratedBiz]

Responsiveness. In World of Warcraft, whenever you use an ability or do an action, your character does it immediately, regardless of ping or whether or not they're already in an animation,

So it's shit where you mash all the keys with no consequence. Okay.

In a real-time combat system like all MMOs, the depth of the combat should arise out of the restrictions of the abilities and their relative merits, not whether or not you are trapped in some flashy animation.

So you prefer to be trapped in some cooldown instead?

Actually, WoW has a global cooldown which is activated by using most abilities so no, button mashing is not an alternative. This was actually the hardest part for me to get used to post-GW2, the fact that abilities aren't queued if you hit the key during the global CD and instead get the "that ability isn't ready" message instead.

WoW also has a resource cost associated with every ability. Something which GW2 does not.

Considering we're talking about responsiveness, how the fuck is this relevant?