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The Elder Scrolls Online
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DragoFireheart
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I wonder how many codexers will pay 
lots of 
to play this pile of shit?
lots of to play this pile of shit?
Excidium
P. banal
Producing games in two different IPs is too much work, Bethesda is merging TES and Fallout.
Dreaad
Arcane
You weren't really wrong though, mods are what saved skyrim, the vanilla was just bad. Mods can't fix an mmo if the developers won't let them fix it.
Clockwork Knight
Arcane
More like low-hanging fruit fanservice. "OMG Fallout reference!!! XD". You bet there will be a NPC who is deathly afraid of mudcrabs and avoids them whenever he cans.
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No. OOO barely scratched the surface. Oblivion needs less cartoonish and all around better art, less boring landscapes, less generic fantasy cities, dungeons that are unique and interesting with a lot less copy paste involved, way better writing, better worldbuilding and lots of other details I can't be bothered to post now. OOO simply removed the most annoying shit.
Jackalope
Arcane
You forgot the need for a new engine.
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Savant
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The engine may be bad but you can still build a good game with it.
The vast majority of their audience is comprised of retards.
Not really arguing that. I just hate when people say mods are why their games are successful. They're not.
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Bethesda is pretty much the only company that builds open world & sandbox. Also they're quite good at making pretty landscapes (except in Oblivion- Oblivion's sucked but then everything in Oblivion sucked).
Had a big boner for Oblivion after Morrowind... Boy I was when the Abomination of Oblivation hit the Buccaneer Coast. 
F3 and Skyrim were both playable if only for Landscapes and being less derpy than Oblibion. TESO looks so shity and WOW like I would not play it for free.
F3 and Skyrim were both playable if only for Landscapes and being less derpy than Oblibion. TESO looks so shity and WOW like I would not play it for free.
DraQ
Arcane
Had a big boner for Oblivion after Morrowind... Boy I was when the Abomination of Oblivation hit the Buccaneer Coast.
OTOH I had huge turdalanche prepared for Skyrim (based on Oblivion and pre-release stuff) and it turned out sort of ok.
Even good for what it was, if modded right.
Delterius
Arcane
Put these together: there's a market that is much less pissy than the Codex about installing 17 billion gigabytes of mods in order to make a good+ game of their favoured, and currently untapped, genre.
If anything, Bethesda provides the framework where everything is possible. And it all feeds into the 'you can do whatever you want in TES, fuck character restrictions' rethoric from Oblivion forwards.
True, when compared to their total sales, the PC audience for Skyrim is below average. But its still much larger than many top selling games and that's not even counting Steam figures. Therefore, I think its reasonable to argue that the PC community is large enough to allow for a group of diehard assholes that herald the game as the second coming of christ because of its modding potential and, thus, serve as free marketting over the internet.
I have no proof of this, but two other things to consider is just how strong the TES modding scene is (thus seemingly permeating the entirety of the PC players) and how Bethesda supports it - other developers have displayed disdain for higher shares of their profits - and wishes to bring it to consoles.
Dreaad
Arcane
I didn't say that though. What I say does not in any way represent all people everywhere! For me mods more or less fixed it. My point being that in this mmo there is no hope of mods doing that.
Emily
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well lets be realistic here vanilla Oblivion is unplayable,horrible shallow game with level scaling that kills your any desire to do anything in game.
OOO turned it into something playable, even sometimes fun. While FCOM improved more to a point when i played it i couldnt even remember the vanilla. It was actually playable. Not the best game ever but worth something.
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I think we can all agree that Bethesda's support of mods is a Good Thing, that mods make TES games better and all that. That said mods can only fix stuff up to a point: Oblivion is still generic, bland, boring even after OOO. Mods could fix all the stuff I mentioned but that wouldn't be Bethesda's Oblivion and doing so would involve huge amounts of work and money- so fucking large that making such a mod is pretty much impossible unless you win the lottery.
So no mods can't 'fix' TES games: at most they can patch the leaks.
So no mods can't 'fix' TES games: at most they can patch the leaks.
escom
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escom
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