Interview The flaming sword of Fallout

[JoeDirt]

Well I'd like a gravitation sword. You can attract crap lying around which then starts to orbit the sword in circular motions. Then, by timing your sword slashes just right you can hurl away your crap in controlled and absolutely fabulous manners. Also, I want to find ancient chocolate fucking milk powder that I can mix with toilet bowl water for refreshing drinks. It's Fallout. Anything goes!

 

[Crichton]

Wait, swords are terribly rare even now, let alone several hundreds of years into the future - and you're supposed to just "find an old sword blade"?

and "old blades" of any kind aren't particularly useful. i have a 2-year old kitchen cleaver that can barely slice the butter that i use in my sexual fetishplay did you ever see that movie last tango in paris well its kind of like that SO HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO JUST FIND AN OLD SWORD BLADE THAT WOULD BE OF ANY USE TO YOU idunno

Would sword blades be rare in the world of the Super Sledge and the Mega Power Fist? The fallout universe's melee weapons never made any sense. Even the primitives using spears doesn't really hold any water since amerinds in the 17th century were trading furs for matchlock muskets like mad. (there's nothing the tribals have that they can trade for guns?)

I'm willing to concede that a flaming sword is more annoying than the power fist and the super sledge but not because it's more stupid, it's actually less stupid. It just ruins the atmosphere in a way the others don't.

The real issue is the fact that one can't make realistic weapon modifications (attach scope or silencer, swap barrels to change ammo caliber, increase ROF by modifying firing mechanism, etc)

But hasn't this 'post news about how stupid FO3 will be and then bitch about it' thing taken up too much time already? Since everyone agrees that it's stupid, why continue to talk about it?

 

[sabishii]

Would sword blades be rare in the world of the Super Sledge and the Mega Power Fist? The fallout universe's melee weapons never made any sense. Even the primitives using spears doesn't really hold any water since amerinds in the 17th century were trading furs for matchlock muskets like mad. (there's nothing the tribals have that they can trade for guns?)

I'm willing to concede that a flaming sword is more annoying than the power fist and the super sledge but not because it's more stupid, it's actually less stupid. It just ruins the atmosphere in a way the others don't.

Good point. But I see it more of another Bethesda "Omg epic!" thing. If it was anything but a sword, we would all probably be less annoyed by it.

 

[barzam]

Oh.. so that's how the radcrab looks. Seems my own guess wasn't that far off.

 

[Section8]

I don't get why so many people have a problem with this. The flaming sword is clearly the ultimate weapon that Fallout's resource war was fought over, and the US of A just couldn't let the Chinese get their hands on it, because they're all trained Samurais and Ninjas and would have made flaming katanas, which can cut a US ICBM in half and split its atoms. The atoms stick to the katana and power it up, so every time you swing the sword it makes a mini mushroom cloud.

It's like you guys never studied history, physics or even played the Fallout games. You should be thankful Bethesduh are imparting their wisdom, because knowing is half the battle.

Now, you're theory sounds solid... with one minor exception: Chinese don't have Samurai, Ninjas and Katanas. Those are all Japanese trademarks. :wink:

Anyone who tells you that the Japanese and Chinese are a different people are just bitter old men with ideas of nationalism that are made redundant by today's technology. Why bother making such distinctions when you can use the next gen attitude that all asians are the same?

 

[Vault Dweller]

We are honored to be in your presence, o wise one. Teach us more of the next-gen ways of the world.

 

[Claw]

I'm willing to concede that a flaming sword is more annoying than the power fist and the super sledge but not because it's more stupid, it's actually less stupid.

You gotta be kidding.

 

[Vault Dweller]

I was going to reply to that, but decided that he must be trolling.

 

[tardtastic]

well to be honest i kind of don't "get" the idea behind a "super sledge hammer" i mean how much can you really "super" up a big hammer i mean it's still just a big hammer how much better could it being "super" make it i mean like what would the difference even be

 

[tardtastic]

anyway i think that the idea of a blatantly homosexual sword is hilarious

 

[tardtastic]

emil is fat

 

[Vault Dweller]

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20070057010.html

The present invention pertains to a hammer wherein the head can have a spring-loaded sliding weight sufficient for driving fastener objects, such as nails, tacks, brads, or similar objects. Also provided is a coil-spring mechanism utilized with a trigger mechanism that can automatically advance the fastener objects through the handle of the hammer into the head of the hammer one at a time.

 

[SuAside]

yeah, the supersledge is just a hammer that has special mechanisms to better use the kinetic energy.

and the powerfist is nothing but a taser mounted on an isolated gauntlet of steel.

i dont really see how those are less likely or more stupid than a flamesword. quite the opposite, actually.

 

[Cassidy]

yeah, the supersledge is just a hammer that has special mechanisms to better use the kinetic energy.

and the powerfist is nothing but a taser mounted on an isolated gauntlet of steel.

i dont really see how those are less likely or more stupid than a flamesword. quite the opposite, actually.

Power Fist and Super Sledge are 50's SCIENCE! a fucking FANTASY flame sw0rd isn't and doesn't fit with the 50's sci-fi at all.

You aren't being sarcastic, right?

 

[Jasede]

I thought Fallout would have been a lot better without the Super Sledge and the Powerfist. They just seemed... cheesy. They fit well into Fallout 2, though.

 

[Crichton]

Power Fist and Super Sledge are 50's SCIENCE! a fucking FANTASY flame sw0rd isn't and doesn't fit with the 50's sci-fi at all.

You aren't being sarcastic, right? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

As I said, they don't ruin the atmosphere the same way, but they're more stupid.

The flaming sword is some clown in the wastes who's out of ammo "improving" his sword by dousing it in flammable liquid and setting it on fire. That obviously won't help, but some people only learn one way. That's stupid.

The power fist and super sledge are products of TEH FUTURE. The same society that walked around with laser rifles and nuked people from orbit decided to arm itself with a SUPA-GRIP MEGA CRUSHIN' GLOVE and SUPA HAHA JACK-IN-DA-BOX HAMMA. Now that's really stupid.

 

[Zomg]

They were also intentional 40K ripoffs. The hammer, power fist and ripper/chainsword all have fairly iconic 40K analogs, I assume to go along with the whole power armor concept. Stupid, though.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Sledge hammer is a tool, adapted for combat. Sledge hammers are being mass produced and widely used today and they could easily become a popular choice in a PA environment: easy to find, easy to use. What's stupid about it?

Swords, especially the flaming ones, are a very different story.

 

[Crichton]

A Super Sledgehammer, manufactured by the Brotherhood of Steel, uses the finest weapon technology available. Includes a kinetic energy storage device, to increase knockback.

The SUPA HAHA JACK-IN-DA-BOX HAMMA is not an improvised weapon! It's the finest weapon ever made!

A "Big Frigger" Power Fist from BeatCo. Considered by many to be the ultimate weapon to use in unarmed combat. This one has upgraded power servos for increased strength. Powered by small energy cells.

What use are bullets against a strong man with a stronger hand? The wastes swallow cowards who use missile weapons.

STOP HATTIN' ON BEATCO!!!!!!11211

 

[tardtastic]

wouldn't an onfiresword be doused upon its first contact with anything organic? i mean i can't see it staying alight after being plunged into a big wet meaty muscley sexy hot anus whoops i mean torso

 

[Vault Dweller]

A Super Sledgehammer, manufactured by the Brotherhood of Steel, uses the finest weapon technology available. Includes a kinetic energy storage device, to increase knockback.

The SUPA HAHA JACK-IN-DA-BOX HAMMA is not an improvised weapon! It's the finest weapon ever made!

Uh, no. It's the finest technology AVAILABLE. Can you spot the key word?

A "Big Frigger" Power Fist from BeatCo. Considered by many to be the ultimate weapon to use in unarmed combat. This one has upgraded power servos for increased strength. Powered by small energy cells.

What use are bullets against a strong man with a stronger hand? The wastes swallow cowards who use missile weapons.

STOP HATTIN' ON BEATCO!!!!!!11211

Have you ever heard about knuckles?

http://www.brassknucklescompany.com/brass_knuckles.html

Or, for that matter, why would someone use knifes? Guns are teh pwnage.

 

[Crichton]

Uh, no. It's the finest technology AVAILABLE. Can you spot the key word?

And since they have laser rifles available to them, I think we can see what the real pinnacle of weapons development is.

Have you ever heard about knuckles?

http://www.brassknucklescompany.com/brass_knuckles.html

Or, for that matter, why would someone use knifes? Guns are teh pwnage.

Right and if I have to choose between a gun that runs on metal and gunpowder and a SUPA GRIPPY HAND that runs on super-futuristic batteries....

 

[Vault Dweller]

Uh, no. It's the finest technology AVAILABLE. Can you spot the key word?

And since they have laser rifles available to them, I think we can see what the real pinnacle of weapons development is.

Available items and available technology are two different things.

Right and if I have to choose between a gun that runs on metal and gunpowder and a SUPA GRIPPY HAND that runs on super-futuristic batteries....

What's your point?

 

[Section8]

I can think of any number of pseudo-scientific ways to explain super sledges and what not. It's hard to magic your way around how a liquid sticks to a metal.

Here's a fun little scientific experiment.

1. Find a knife.

2. Dip the knife in petrol.

3. Pull the knife out of the petrol, and put a lighter to it.

4. Dip your hand in petrol.

5. Pull your hand out of the petrol and put a lighter to it.

6. Compare the results of steps 3 and 5.

See the problem here is - Rippers, Super Sledges and Power Fists have little in common with the life experience of an average human, and so pseudo science can be substituted without a critical suspension of disbelief, especially within the retro sci-fi context of Fallout. It's harder to convince anyone who has ever seen wet cutlery that a flame sword is reasonable.

 

[tardtastic]

i think they just had a lot of leftover flamingswords from oblivion that they wanted to use up

emil likes them flaming swords