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The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

Jermu

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No, seriously, this fight is just retarded. I can't kill him, he can't kill me.

debuff with kloe, buff speed and use dmg spells. Save s-crafts until you can finish him with those. Depending on difficulty level you might have to go back to get better gear/quartz setups.
 

Reinhardt

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Killed him, but it's really luck based fight. He can heal from 1/10 hp to full with zero efforts. Literally between my turns - prepare, cast heal, prepare, cast heal. 4 turns in a row,
 

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NG+ runs don't take too long with the use turbo and cutscene skipping, speaking of which, my long delayed CS3 NG+ run finally began today and soon, I shall began CS4 and become one of the one cool kids again.
 

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Ahem.

Saint-Arkh mansion.

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While an improvement overall story-arc wise (as has always been the case with each successful game in the series), I will say I'm not a super big fan of this aspect in CS4 (still playing, not trying to spoil anything):

A lot of the enemies seem to be reluctant to fight and they simply throw themselves at you in a pathetic, desperate attempt to slow you down or a 'trial of strength'. Intelligence division, Claire, Jaegers, Main campus, Armored division. This takes away from some of the tension, as it makes the whole deal a lot less of a 'do or die' situation. I hope the stakes are upped soon. As it is, all the main villains seem to be lacking confidence in their own beliefs.
 

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Come to think of it, I actually can't think of a single villain that the aforementioned behavior does not apply to.

Maybe McBurn, although, I'm sure he also has his own redemption arc? I understand what the writing is trying to showcase (not EVIL, but humanized villains with grounded motives), but they could have done so without being all like "come and please foil all my plans, I've been waiting for it!".
 

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Come to think of it, I actually can't think of a single villain that the aforementioned behavior does not apply to.

Maybe McBurn, although, I'm sure he also has his own redemption arc? I understand what the writing is trying to showcase (not EVIL, but humanized villains with grounded motives), but they could have done so without being all like "come and please foil all my plans, I've been waiting for it!".

One character that is not conflicted about what they are doing or trying to test the heroes in this game is:

Rufus - he knows exactly what he wants and stoops pretty low to try and get it; if he is appearing to hold back so far, it is only because there is more power to be had in doing so and he definitely just moves in and takes advantage at one key point.

Technically "Black Alberich" knows what he is doing (and what he is doing is trying to do something pretty bad) and is not out there to test anyone or the like; like Rufus what he wants he can only get by waiting till the right moment.

McBurn gets a IMO great "redemption" / explanation near the end of the game but I shouldn't say much more about that either.
 

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Come to think of it, I actually can't think of a single villain that the aforementioned behavior does not apply to.

Maybe McBurn, although, I'm sure he also has his own redemption arc? I understand what the writing is trying to showcase (not EVIL, but humanized villains with grounded motives), but they could have done so without being all like "come and please foil all my plans, I've been waiting for it!".

One character that is not conflicted about what they are doing or trying to test the heroes in this game is:

Rufus - he knows exactly what he wants and stoops pretty low to try and get it; if he is appearing to hold back so far, it is only because there is more power to be had in doing so and he definitely just moves in and takes advantage at one key point.

Technically "Black Alberich" knows what he is doing (and what he is doing is trying to do something pretty bad) and is not out there to test anyone or the like; like Rufus what he wants he can only get by waiting till the right moment.

McBurn gets a IMO great "redemption" / explanation near the end of the game but I shouldn't say much more about that either.

I see, looking forward to seeing all that.
I had to get through this joke of a fight last night (and even more similar ones after).
They've seriously overdone it with the depressed adversaries who just fight planning to lose. Makes you almost feel bad for annihilating them, was that the intention?

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Come to think of it, I actually can't think of a single villain that the aforementioned behavior does not apply to.

Maybe McBurn, although, I'm sure he also has his own redemption arc? I understand what the writing is trying to showcase (not EVIL, but humanized villains with grounded motives), but they could have done so without being all like "come and please foil all my plans, I've been waiting for it!".

One character that is not conflicted about what they are doing or trying to test the heroes in this game is:

Rufus - he knows exactly what he wants and stoops pretty low to try and get it; if he is appearing to hold back so far, it is only because there is more power to be had in doing so and he definitely just moves in and takes advantage at one key point.

Technically "Black Alberich" knows what he is doing (and what he is doing is trying to do something pretty bad) and is not out there to test anyone or the like; like Rufus what he wants he can only get by waiting till the right moment.

McBurn gets a IMO great "redemption" / explanation near the end of the game but I shouldn't say much more about that either.

I see, looking forward to seeing all that.
I had to get through this joke of a fight last night (and even more similar ones after).
They've seriously overdone it with the depressed adversaries who just fight planning to lose. Makes you almost feel bad for annihilating them, was that the intention?

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Fair enough - you are in possibly the slowest bit of the game right at the moment (and yes most of your opponents at the moment only want to test you and/or don't want to fight) - the end of Chapter two is where it goes into another gear and the start of chapter 3 is where some of the motivations of the real baddies and the pretend baddies become more transparent.
 

Reinhardt

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I'm in chapter 2 of sc right now and best fight so far in both games was with Cid in training mission. No mumbo-jumbo, no cheap tricks, just proper human boss fight.
 

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The video has mixed content from the originals and the Evo versions, which have new portrait art etc.
 

Ventidius

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McBurn is definitely the best antagonist in Cold Steel IV, and one of the very few that got a satisfying conclusion to his arc. That he did so is actually even more impressive when you consider that he was a highlight in the previous two games as well.
 

Reinhardt

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Dat feeling when you attack random monster and it has 3 shining poms and everyone's s-crafts are fully charged.
 

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