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The Legend of Heroes Thread - Trails of Cold Steel in the Sky

Lyre Mors

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I can't wait for Kuro. So excited. Every time I see new information about it, I have to force myself to look away so as to avoid getting too hyped up. 2023-2024 can't come soon enough :negative:
 

Sarathiour

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It's not supposed to be a sword, but some sort of long taser thing, and end looking quite like one.
 

Shadenuat

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3d movie instead of 2d animation
black haired shit with sword. but at least he looks edgy instead of depressed rean. not that it helps
some darK robot suit.
blonde canon love interest, but everyone would try to romance elf girl from computer instead.

it's an edgier steel.

bring back isometry and sprites.
 
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Lyre Mors

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3d movie instead of 2d animation
black haired shit with sword. but at least he looks edgy instead of depressed rean. not that it helps
some darK robot suit.
blonde canon love interest, but everyone would try to romance elf girl from computer instead.

it's an edgier steel.

bring back isometry and sprites.

Stop playing Trails games. You're never going to be happy with them again.
 

Lyre Mors

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There's a lot of flaws to be found in the Cold Steel series, but after completing Cold Steel 4, I can say without a doubt I regret none of my ~300 hours with the games. I really love them, and feel that the subsequent entries coming in the near future are going to be even better. I'm a big fan of most of the "classic" games too, but I don't begrudge a series for continuing to change, even if it has some growing pains in the process, especially if it stays as consistently good as this one.

Now if I were someone who didn't like the Cold Steel games and put that much time into them, that'd just make me insane. So stop being insane and torturing yourself if you really don't like the games.
 

Shadenuat

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You nice fellas are from some parallel reality or something? "Speak urself ur opinion enjoy for what it is" could it be it is not I who am faithless here?

Anyway, completely missed there is also some high school building in trailer, which makes me even more suspicious.
 

Ysaye

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3d movie instead of 2d animation
black haired shit with sword. but at least he looks edgy instead of depressed rean. not that it helps
some darK robot suit.
blonde canon love interest, but everyone would try to romance elf girl from computer instead.

it's an edgier steel.

bring back isometry and sprites.

It is not a sword but a stun-caliber - it is a weapon with a flat heavy edge; I believe typical weapon China to defend against swordsmen?. Also he is trained in martial arts and does moves with punching too.

Also it is not a mech but more like a special suit.

It is unlikely the blonde girl is his love interest (although I suppose Juna and Musse were a thing for Rean); she is only 16 and he is 22. It is more likely that Eclaire (Silver haired longsword lady - Order Alignment) or Shizuna (8L1B samurai ninja on Chaos Alignment) are the love choices (maybe the hellcat lady on the neutral alignment?).
 

Shadenuat

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A sword is a stunsword, his black hair is actually blueish, and he does martial arts, but it's not martial.
Mech is not a mech but a hardsuit.

she is only 16 and he is 22
Wait, when was that a problem for Japanese.

It's a what they call in jap industry "blonde insert for sales".

But! I am going to let this slide, if she is not his sister (or he has no sister).

It is more likely that Eclaire (Silver haired longsword lady - Order Alignment) or Shizuna (8L1B samurai ninja on Chaos Alignment) are the love choices (maybe the hellcat lady
You confused me here. Who of them is his sister??
 

Shadenuat

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I mean it's hard to really say, because we need to decide then if Trails was always a banal representation of its genre and Sky, Zero were also banal (partially giant trees and girls with powers of gods are but idk) and my mind was clouded by both heavy (tea) drinking I engaged to when collecting shiny crystals...

Or they weren't; but now they just try and grasp into most banal thing to survive, just like, say, Atelier games are not turn based, have no timers and no specifically feminine characters anymore. But try and press the grafix (and ass) and real time. I especially am amused by promises of new engine and grafix, as if they can impress anyone with this stuff; powerful engines is not what people like JRPGs for, their visuals are more about polish and graphical mastery of designers behind concept art, all the special moves you are going to watch 1 time and be impressed and then skip always etc.
 

Ysaye

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Jindo is in good form with that Boss Battle Theme 1 (sounds a bit like "Exceed!"), whilst the Turn Based sounds like something harking back to the Sky games.
 

Deflowerer

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I did FC Nightmare quite fine (although relied a lot on that confuse spell), but jesus fucking christ on a pogo stick, what the fuck in the fuck is Nightmare in NG SC? Getting buttblasted by the first boss in Prologue. I think I can probably manage by ensuring good positioning, maxed crafts before battle, but damn...

In general, how does SC NG Nightmare compare with FC?
 

Jermu

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I did FC Nightmare quite fine (although relied a lot on that confuse spell), but jesus fucking christ on a pogo stick, what the fuck in the fuck is Nightmare in NG SC? Getting buttblasted by the first boss in Prologue. I think I can probably manage by ensuring good positioning, maxed crafts before battle, but damn...

In general, how does SC NG Nightmare compare with FC?

done all trails english games on nightmare and sc prologue is the biggest bullshit by far. There are also few nasty hunt quests in sc but after you get earth wall there should be no trouble.

There is also sc prologue guide which I ended up using which relies on attack food items.

From all trails games 3rd, ao and zero have best combat for nightmare difficulty.
 

HoboForEternity

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
good news my prediction about the action mode is correct. it's more of a low level trash mob fast mode as you can't really cast arts or crafts. there is a charge meter if you fill it, you can unleash semi big attacks. it's also very simplistic, and mostly works like watered down Ys combat. action mode also sometimes can stun enemies to give advantage in command mode (similar to hitting enemies from behind in real time in the older games). you don't get the EXP/sepith x battle score multipliers from action mode too. so this is mostly just to make traversal in low level areas faster without dodging enemies while still get some low bonus EXP/Sepith.

the main meat is still the command mode/turn based mode, so I am glad trails is still mainly a turn based games.
 

Rean

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Strap Yourselves In
good news my prediction about the action mode is correct. it's more of a low level trash mob fast mode as you can't really cast arts or crafts. there is a charge meter if you fill it, you can unleash semi big attacks. it's also very simplistic, and mostly works like watered down Ys combat. action mode also sometimes can stun enemies to give advantage in command mode (similar to hitting enemies from behind in real time in the older games). you don't get the EXP/sepith x battle score multipliers from action mode too. so this is mostly just to make traversal in low level areas faster without dodging enemies while still get some low bonus EXP/Sepith.

the main meat is still the command mode/turn based mode, so I am glad trails is still mainly a turn based games.

This sounds barely okayish to my drunk brain. I never thought trash mobs were a problem in the series, so was this all actually necessary?
 

Urthor

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Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
good news my prediction about the action mode is correct. it's more of a low level trash mob fast mode as you can't really cast arts or crafts. there is a charge meter if you fill it, you can unleash semi big attacks. it's also very simplistic, and mostly works like watered down Ys combat. action mode also sometimes can stun enemies to give advantage in command mode (similar to hitting enemies from behind in real time in the older games). you don't get the EXP/sepith x battle score multipliers from action mode too. so this is mostly just to make traversal in low level areas faster without dodging enemies while still get some low bonus EXP/Sepith.

the main meat is still the command mode/turn based mode, so I am glad trails is still mainly a turn based games.

How good is the turn based combat though?

I feel like the formula is getting a little stale. Cold Steel IV suffered from the quantity of trash mobs I'd say.
 

cruel

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Combat in Cold Steel games was perfect for me, I wouldn't change a single thing.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk
 

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