Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Tito Anic]

Bros, did last castle upgrade, went sleeping irl, woke up - now scummvm gives me this.

 

[octavius]

Can't help you with that, but you're a Hannes Bok fan?

 

[Tito Anic]

Can't help you with that, but you're a Hannes Bok fan?

Yes i am. Was searching for predecline era art and found him. What i like about his art is that he visualises what i see reading Lovecraft, Vance, Hodgson.

 

[Darth Canoli]

ScumVM ?
Is it a kind of Dosbox ?
Can't help you either, you're probably better off with a search engine.

Or you can try to run it with dosbox, config could be a pain though, if you don't put it in the game directory to run multiple games with it.

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Vance, one of my favorite Sci-fi / fantasy writer, maybe even my favorite.

 

[Tito Anic]

ScumVM ?
Is it a kind of Dosbox ?
Can't help you either, you're probably better off with a search engine.

Or you can try to run it with dosbox, config could be a pain though, if you don't put it in the game directory to run multiple games with it.

It is Virtual Machine designed to run classic adventure games and not only them. MM:WoX runs smoother with it than with DosBox.

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Currently Vance is my top sci-fantasy writer: "Cugel's Saga" and "Planet of Adventure" series are my favorites.

 

[Strange Fellow]

It is Virtual Machine designed to run classic adventure games and not only them. MM:WoX runs smoother with it than with DosBox.

I used that to play Grim Fandango some years ago. Luckily that's not necessary anymore. What exactly was the problem with WoX? It worked fine when I tried it in DOSBox. Mouse input?

 

[Great Deceiver]

ScummVM support of WoX is still experimental afaik, so bugs are expected. Post your issue on the official forums, maybe.

And yes, the biggest problem with WoX in DOSBox is mouse polling, to get a smooth input you have to turn the cycles up, which in turn fucks up the animation speed.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

Who plays WoX with a mouse though? Right hand on numpad and left hand on a,s, spacebar is waaaaay more intuitive.

 

[Great Deceiver]

I play pretty much all classic blobbers with the keyboard for greater speed, that is true.

 

[Tito Anic]

What exactly was the problem with WoX? It worked fine when I tried it in DOSBox. Mouse input?

Slower fps than in scumvm.

Ok, i figured out how to play my saves again, now my 13lvl party is at castle Xeen. What lvl did you beat Clouds?

 

[octavius]

I think my party was about lvl 50.

 

[Tito Anic]

I think my party was about lvl 50.

Did you do Darkside quests too?

 

[Average Manatee]

There's no way you can get level 50 without doing significant amounts of Darkside. Clouds is pretty much hard capped at level 20 or so.

 

[octavius]

I know my party was lvl 55 a few days after I completed Clouds, and I didn't do any Darkside stuff.
Evidently they leveled up a hell of a lot those few days. :D

But I know they were around lvl 90 at the end of Darkside.

 

[Average Manatee]

We had a similar discussion earlier in the thread. I have no idea why people are misremembering WoX's leveling so incorrectly. Unless there's some way to sequence break into post-game content and get massive XP amounts? Even then you need to go to Darkside to level and I doubt you'd have the money.

It has been a while, but I think you could go way past level 20 in Clouds alone. I used to own Clouds but not Darkside, and while I don't remember at what level I finished the game, I am pretty sure it was past level 50.

Don't think you can even find trainers that go that high in Clouds. Gamefaqs backs me up and says trainers cap at 20. There's a few permanent level boosters, if you leveled to 20 then went back you could probably get to level 23 or something, and then stack on up to (I think) +15 temporary levels from fountains to max out at level 38ish.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

Completionist run of Clouds puts you at about lvl 22 I believe. No way you can get anywhere near 50 without doing Darkside content.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Locust Plagues? Pff, they do like 5 damage per hit

fuck

 

[Tito Anic]

Potion of Gods - how do they work?

 

[Dorateen]

Potion of Gods - how do they work?

Potions of the Gods cast Divine Intervention. Use them in case of an emergency.

 

[No Great Name]

Locust Plagues? Pff, they do like 5 damage per hit

fuck

Life gets so much easier once your Sorcerer can cast Fire Ball.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Slower fps than in scumvm.

Ok, i figured out how to play my saves again, now my 13lvl party is at castle Xeen. What lvl did you beat Clouds?

I believe you just have to rummage through the config ini to fix this, there's a lot of infos about dosbox config for MM3-5 out there.

Around lvl 20-30, you can trash anything living on the surface in Clouds, didn't do every dungeon though, i stopped playing it for a while (playing both M&M III and Xeen at the same time was probably ambitious, i'll get back to it later ).
Be careful about going to Darkside if you don't use the spawn mod, without reduced xp rewards from darkside, doing one quest there will give you too much xp, not talking about a couple of them, you'd ruin your Cloudside experience.

Strange Fellow Tsss Locust plagues, was so serious back then, i think i prefer the "Oh No! Bugs" from M&M 3

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Well, i've read every single novel from Jack Vance i could lay my hand on but i'm not sure everything was translated / imported in Europe so i might have missed some of them, probably some short novels at least.
If you didn't, you should check "A quest for Simbilis" a Jack Vance's tribute from Michael Shea.
The Tschaï cycle was also really good, i mean, i was never disappointed, reading Jack Vance.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Locust Plagues? Pff, they do like 5 damage per hit

fuck

Life gets so much easier once your Sorcerer can cast Fire Ball.

Yes, it did. My party is level 8 in this screenshot.
Those bugs are tenacious fuckers, and since AOE attacks can kill unconscious party members my sorcerer never got to act at all. Still, it was mostly bad luck, and I beat them on the second attempt.
I liked your review, by the way. Your site's pretty cool, the "tips for beginners" thing is a nice feature.

 

[groke]

ScummVM support of WoX is still experimental afaik, so bugs are expected. Post your issue on the official forums, maybe.

And yes, the biggest problem with WoX in DOSBox is mouse polling, to get a smooth input you have to turn the cycles up, which in turn fucks up the animation speed.

The ScummVM port is definitely still very rough around the edges (and the music/sfx are borked), but being able to use the CD voices alongside the textbox dialogue is a massive plus.

 

[Tito Anic]

How do i protect my weapons from lava golems damage? It is annoying returning to smith after few fights.

I believe you just have to rummage through the config ini to fix this, there's a lot of infos about dosbox config for MM3-5 out there.

I figured it out with Scumvm.

 

[Tito Anic]

Guess who is this guy?

Warning! Too much awesomeness

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