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Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread
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fantadomat
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Mega link for anyone interested that someone else uploaded, haven't tested it yet: https://mega.nz/file/Ly5wDRBb#GWnXjPB3hprLz6iLkuQDUzg-LLG19y3uWCS1sk2y1xk
Their shitty site crashed again
Their shitty site crashed again
I am playing the version downloaded from there right now.
Any specifics on how does it work? Which class/skill progression, etc?
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Now I think it's a good thing we didn't get the Forge in the end. In M&M games the sci-fi element is always hidden as a surprise reward for getting to the endgame. Of course after beating at least one game it's no longer a surprise. Still its fun to wonder this fantasy world and wait for the sci-fi to pop-up. Forge being very in-your face sci-fi kinda betrays that idea.
Also the presented concepts were very not in-line of what we've seen in previous games. The technology was very futuristic and Star-Trek inspired. Meanwhile revealed concepts looked more like something from a post-apocalyptic game. Ogres with rocket launchers? Flamethrowers? Naga-tanks?
I think that the Forge should be obviously very powerful and advanced faction, but their technological origins should've been revealed only at the end of the campaign, like in M&M games. At a glance their units should appear to be using conventional weapons or magic. Goblins should still use blasters, but these blasters should look like magical weapons rather than standard guns. This would both prevent the backlash and retain the surprise ending similar to the M&M games.
Of course there's no way NWC would make know it back then.
Also the presented concepts were very not in-line of what we've seen in previous games. The technology was very futuristic and Star-Trek inspired. Meanwhile revealed concepts looked more like something from a post-apocalyptic game. Ogres with rocket launchers? Flamethrowers? Naga-tanks?
I think that the Forge should be obviously very powerful and advanced faction, but their technological origins should've been revealed only at the end of the campaign, like in M&M games. At a glance their units should appear to be using conventional weapons or magic. Goblins should still use blasters, but these blasters should look like magical weapons rather than standard guns. This would both prevent the backlash and retain the surprise ending similar to the M&M games.
Of course there's no way NWC would make know it back then.
fantadomat
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Thank god that they decided to not include the forge. It looks retarded and very out place,it kills the relaxing mood of the game.
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installed the M&M 6-7-8 combi mod
started out in the world of 6, five characters, all-female party (I picked, of course, the ones with barefoot paperdolls)
already killed a bunch of goblins and found some treasure hidden under a random rock
I'm having fun. Might and Magic is just so much fun despite how simple its gameplay loop is.
I'd say that M&M is so fun precisely because how simple the gameplay loop is. I mean let's compare Fallout 1 and 2 to M&M 6. In Fallout (and many FO likes i.e Wasteland, AOD, Underrail) the character creation is pretty stressful since you can fuck yourself over before the game even starsts, and it's not obvious how should you distribute your stats even if you know what kind of character you want to play. In M&M stat-rising barrels are everywhere so it doesn't matter.
Kliwer
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Can someone tell something about MM7Rev4mod (https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/11/8630). Is it worth playing?
grimer
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i agree. the most egregious aspect of the forge expansion was the goth/punk? horror sci-fi aesthetic which severely clashed with the whimsical fantasy setting of the rest of the series. that naga tank concept art was nightmare fuel. for me it was less about the sci-fi fantasy mix (which i always liked) but how tonally inconsistent that faction is. its like watching lord of the rings with a 90s nu-metal score.
Darth Canoli
Arcane
There is some comments in the thread you quoted.
Just install it and tell us if it works and if you like it.
I'm sick of M&M VII, it's the one i played the most from the second trilogy and at some point, enough is enough.
God I'm having so much pure fun with the M&M merge mod, and I haven't even left the second area of MM6 yet!
Rafidur
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It does work. You also get stuff like mouselook and better resolution, but that just makes it bearable in 2021. There's also some changes like a reworked bounty system, a fifth party member (which I'm not using for balance), potion recipes, fly being much later in MM6, etc. Whether you like it depends on if you like MM6-7-8 in the first place.
I always really liked the sci-fi elements of Might and Magic, but the Forge cities looked too industrial. M&M's sci-fi elements were always of a more classic sword-and-planet era style. Think Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, or even Star Wars.
This is the vibe M&M's sci-fi elements give me:
The Forge looked nothing like that:
fantadomat
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How is the difficulty scaling?
fantadomat
Arcane
They are good mainly because they were not over used in it. They were always put as end dungeon.
fantadomat
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They are boring for sure,but at least don't take you out of the game like forge.
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It takes me out of the game due to being so unimaginative. It fits better with shitty Ubisoft games. Ironically they never tried to bring them back since they were so garbage.
TBH, it *does* have a certain Metropolis vibe.
Darth Canoli
Arcane
I think the difficulty scaling only works when you go to a different world and you can change the numbers through a special menu in the options.
Dunno since I haven't hopped across worlds yet.
Morpheus Kitami
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Weird, I thought I was the only one who thought that. They tried too hard with adapting the elementals into a coherent faction and the psychic (or whatever the tier 6 was) ones felt considerably amateurish compared to other unit designs.
Sinatar
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The Forge was never going to be mega high tech. It's a faction of evil monsters who got their hands on an ancient weapons forge (the evil ending of M&M7). They don't know the technology, they can't change or replicate it. They are just manufacturing guns and giving them to monsters, hence Ogres with rocket launchers and Naga's with blasters.
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