Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Gangrelrumbler]

installed the M&M 6-7-8 combi mod
started out in the world of 6, five characters, all-female party (I picked, of course, the ones with barefoot paperdolls )
already killed a bunch of goblins and found some treasure hidden under a random rock

I'm having fun. Might and Magic is just so much fun despite how simple its gameplay loop is.

I'd say that M&M is so fun precisely because how simple the gameplay loop is. I mean let's compare Fallout 1 and 2 to M&M 6. In Fallout (and many FO likes i.e Wasteland, AOD, Underrail) the character creation is pretty stressful since you can fuck yourself over before the game even starsts, and it's not obvious how should you distribute your stats even if you know what kind of character you want to play. In M&M stat-rising barrels are everywhere so it doesn't matter.

 

[Kliwer]

Can someone tell something about MM7Rev4mod (https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/11/8630). Is it worth playing?

 

[grimer]

Also the presented concepts were very not in-line of what we've seen in previous games. The technology was very futuristic and Star-Trek inspired. Meanwhile revealed concepts looked more like something from a post-apocalyptic game. Ogres with rocket launchers? Flamethrowers? Naga-tanks?

i agree. the most egregious aspect of the forge expansion was the goth/punk? horror sci-fi aesthetic which severely clashed with the whimsical fantasy setting of the rest of the series. that naga tank concept art was nightmare fuel. for me it was less about the sci-fi fantasy mix (which i always liked) but how tonally inconsistent that faction is. its like watching lord of the rings with a 90s nu-metal score.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Can someone tell something about MM7Rev4mod (https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/11/8630). Is it worth playing?

There is some comments in the thread you quoted.
Just install it and tell us if it works and if you like it.

I'm sick of M&M VII, it's the one i played the most from the second trilogy and at some point, enough is enough.

 

[JarlFrank]

God I'm having so much pure fun with the M&M merge mod, and I haven't even left the second area of MM6 yet!

 

[Rafidur]

It does work. You also get stuff like mouselook and better resolution, but that just makes it bearable in 2021. There's also some changes like a reworked bounty system, a fifth party member (which I'm not using for balance), potion recipes, fly being much later in MM6, etc. Whether you like it depends on if you like MM6-7-8 in the first place.

 

[JarlFrank]

Also the presented concepts were very not in-line of what we've seen in previous games. The technology was very futuristic and Star-Trek inspired. Meanwhile revealed concepts looked more like something from a post-apocalyptic game. Ogres with rocket launchers? Flamethrowers? Naga-tanks?

i agree. the most egregious aspect of the forge expansion was the goth/punk? horror sci-fi aesthetic which severely clashed with the whimsical fantasy setting of the rest of the series. that naga tank concept art was nightmare fuel. for me it was less about the sci-fi fantasy mix (which i always liked) but how tonally inconsistent that faction is. its like watching lord of the rings with a 90s nu-metal score.

I always really liked the sci-fi elements of Might and Magic, but the Forge cities looked too industrial. M&M's sci-fi elements were always of a more classic sword-and-planet era style. Think Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, or even Star Wars.

This is the vibe M&M's sci-fi elements give me:

The Forge looked nothing like that:

 

[fantadomat]

God I'm having so much pure fun with the M&M merge mod, and I haven't even left the second area of MM6 yet!

How is the difficulty scaling?

 

[fantadomat]

I always really liked the sci-fi elements of Might and Magic

They are good mainly because they were not over used in it. They were always put as end dungeon.

 

[octavius]

Still more interesting than the ultra dull Conflux. It's the only HoMM faction I avoid playing if I can.

 

[fantadomat]

Still more interesting than the ultra dull Conflux. It's the only HoMM faction I avoid playing if I can.

They are boring for sure,but at least don't take you out of the game like forge.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Still more interesting than the ultra dull Conflux. It's the only HoMM faction I avoid playing if I can.

They are boring for sure,but at least don't take you out of the game like forge.

It takes me out of the game due to being so unimaginative. It fits better with shitty Ubisoft games. Ironically they never tried to bring them back since they were so garbage.

 

[Storyfag]

The Forge looked nothing like that:

TBH, it *does* have a certain Metropolis vibe.

 

[Darth Canoli]

How is the difficulty scaling?

I think the difficulty scaling only works when you go to a different world and you can change the numbers through a special menu in the options.

 

[JarlFrank]

God I'm having so much pure fun with the M&M merge mod, and I haven't even left the second area of MM6 yet!

How is the difficulty scaling?

Dunno since I haven't hopped across worlds yet.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Still more interesting than the ultra dull Conflux. It's the only HoMM faction I avoid playing if I can.

Weird, I thought I was the only one who thought that. They tried too hard with adapting the elementals into a coherent faction and the psychic (or whatever the tier 6 was) ones felt considerably amateurish compared to other unit designs.

 

[Sinatar]

The Forge was never going to be mega high tech. It's a faction of evil monsters who got their hands on an ancient weapons forge (the evil ending of M&M7). They don't know the technology, they can't change or replicate it. They are just manufacturing guns and giving them to monsters, hence Ogres with rocket launchers and Naga's with blasters.

 

[octavius]

Still more interesting than the ultra dull Conflux. It's the only HoMM faction I avoid playing if I can.

Weird, I thought I was the only one who thought that. They tried too hard with adapting the elementals into a coherent faction and the psychic (or whatever the tier 6 was) ones felt considerably amateurish compared to other unit designs.

The only fun Conflux unit is the Phoenix

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

The Forge was never going to be mega high tech. It's a faction of evil monsters who got their hands on an ancient weapons forge (the evil ending of M&M7). They don't know the technology, they can't change or replicate it. They are just manufacturing guns and giving them to monsters, hence Ogres with rocket launchers and Naga's with blasters.

Yeah, but at the M&M 7 evil ending they got hands on a replicator spewing-out sci-fi weapons. I can imagine them using it to get hi-tech equipment that looks like magic or create robots that look like golems. I can't really get behind an idea of them just sticking chainsaws on zombies or tank threads on nagas. Why use such advanced technology to create something so primitive?

Weird, I thought I was the only one who thought that. They tried too hard with adapting the elementals into a coherent faction and the psychic (or whatever the tier 6 was) ones felt considerably amateurish compared to other unit designs.

It doesn't help that elementals by themselves aren't particularly interesting creatures.

 

[Rafidur]

Found more details about what the merge + community patch actually does:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xf4RCg92qnZD6UNM_UDJH1qPHnli8_APq3a_ECxmZ3o/edit

 

[Invictus]

Any working links for the merge that are NOT Mega? Download stoped at 93%

 

[DaveO]

You'd have to talk to them for better download links. I'm planning to do Merge on my next LP. As a SOLO Dragon.

 

[Storyfag]

You'd have to talk to them for better download links. I'm planning to do Merge on my next LP. As a SOLO Dragon.

I don't think there's a way to start as a Dragon.

 

[DaveO]

There is a way to start MM8 Merge as a Dragon. You just have to use the correct files.

 

[Efe]

JarlFrank
next time you go into a dungeon could you check if you can loot some chests twice? you loot everything, close and open and you see a couple more that probably didnt fit inside first time