Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Lonely Vazdru]

And 13 years after its creation, the holy Might and Magic thread reached 300 pages. John Van Caneghem looked down upon its creation's legacy and saw that it was good. And there was much rejoicing...

 

[Butter]

MM11 when?

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

When ubisoft pulls its head from its assassin’s crack.

 

[Dorateen]

Wasn't there some word about a Chinese studio developing a Might & Magic project? Conventional wisdom says it will be a cheap mobile cash grab, and not a proper RPG. But nothing's been confirmed.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

Wasn't there some word about a Chinese studio developing a Might & Magic project? Conventional wisdom says it will be a cheap mobile cash grab, and not a proper RPG. But nothing's been confirmed.

Considering that there have already been 2 mobile games (IIRC) made by some Asian company, I highly doubt they'll change a "winning" formula.

 

[0sacred]

They were looking for a project director with experience in open world games, about 2 years ago I guess. So I would expect maybe a shit game, but not a crap mobile game.

 

[behold_a_man]

So, I've finished the third one.

ending party

Note that dead mercenaries are unable to collect the money you owe them.

My observations after playing it are:
1) I enjoyed puzzles in this game: especially the idea that there are in-game solutions to the puzzles, which allows to create much tougher and simultaneously more rewarding puzzles without forcing the player to solve each of them in order to complete the game; yet, when the player gets the solutions, the rewards (except for completing the game) are barely relevant. Also, brute-forcing puzzles was oftentimes feasible but still required some sort of general strategy or idea in order to solve them quickly - like evaluating at least the later part of the expression in the Arachnoid Caves or using the Gray code in the Greywind Castle.
Perhaps the most unique thing about them I noticed was using them as a means of presenting some stories; for example, in the dungeons below Castle Windshield, there are scattered parts of a dwarven rhyme:

rhyme

The good King Zealot was quite a knave,
To his wife and her lover a box he gave,
His wife's young lover was an orc named Smello,
With hell-hound's breath and hair of yellow,
The queen was shocked by her pine box,
For the open end had golden locks,
Smello's box sent him reeling,
And wooden planks were his last feeling,
The countersign lies in the queen's box.

And the

answer?

Smello

. While I admire the idea, I don't think it was a good riddle:

Spoiler

the next to last verse seemed to imply that Smello was alive when the box was opened, which kind of doesn't make sense.

There were some other scuffed puzzles. Case in point - this riddle in the Cursed Cold Cavern:

riddle

With the

answer:

chain.
Brave to say this in a world where wooden chainmail is the latest fashion trend. I expected the answer to be some sort of mineral that forms bubble-wrap-like structures.

I think the writers should care about precision in their wording when writing such enigmas - or, even better, get people experienced with writing technical documentation to create them.


2) I liked how almost all of the dunegons had some differentiating characteristics: Dragon Cavern featuring dragons and tons of gold; Blackwind dungeon with its invisible teleports; Cathedral of Carnage filled to the brim with spells to learn; or The Arachnoid Cavern with a puzzle forcing you to learn a lot about the structure of a dungeon - if you wanted to get those bonuses to stats while they were still relevant. Also, I don't think I ever saw before dungeons constantly referencing other dungeons; I think it added some tension to exploration - like constantly seeing remarks about the Maze From Hell being quite an unpleasant location.

3) Another pleasing idea in this game is that the player was rewarded for exploration with simplification of exploration (getting swimming or mountaineering; walk on water and other positional spells; portal activation words) - though I wouldn't expect anything else from a game in this series. In most open-world games I saw, the later I was in the game, the more boring traversing the world was; here, I got the Interspacial Transport Box allowing me to traverse the entire world almost instantly in the penultimate dungeon.

4) The game was possible to complete using only a keyboard, and all actions were effectively discrete; the obvious implication is that the game should (and was) quite fast; the less obvious is that it could be scripted - for example, I wrote some simple scripts that pressed key combinations, allowing me to buff automatically (spells + Blistering Heights statues + Well on D1 giving +100 to everything) or repair all the broken equipment after eradication without needing to lift a finger. I would love to see a game allowing me to write scripts using internal information about the state of the game - for example, in case of this game, what is my position+direction on the map, which parts of equipment are broken, or what is the status of my company - so that it would be possible to receive feedback from the game without resorting to processing screenshots.

I preferred this game to the sixth and seventh ones; I didn't feel like the game was punishing me for progress with subsequent tiresome encounters or, even worse, Castle Darkmoor.

 

[solemgar]

So, I've finished the third one.

ending party

Note that dead mercenaries are unable to collect the money you owe them.

My observations after playing it are:
1) I enjoyed puzzles in this game: especially the idea that there are in-game solutions to the puzzles, which allows to create much tougher and simultaneously more rewarding puzzles without forcing the player to solve each of them in order to complete the game; yet, when the player gets the solutions, the rewards (except for completing the game) are barely relevant. Also, brute-forcing puzzles was oftentimes feasible but still required some sort of general strategy or idea in order to solve them quickly - like evaluating at least the later part of the expression in the Arachnoid Caves or using the Gray code in the Greywind Castle.
Perhaps the most unique thing about them I noticed was using them as a means of presenting some stories; for example, in the dungeons below Castle Windshield, there are scattered parts of a dwarven rhyme:

rhyme

The good King Zealot was quite a knave,
To his wife and her lover a box he gave,
His wife's young lover was an orc named Smello,
With hell-hound's breath and hair of yellow,
The queen was shocked by her pine box,
For the open end had golden locks,
Smello's box sent him reeling,
And wooden planks were his last feeling,
The countersign lies in the queen's box.

And the

answer?

Smello

. While I admire the idea, I don't think it was a good riddle:

Spoiler

the next to last verse seemed to imply that Smello was alive when the box was opened, which kind of doesn't make sense.

There were some other scuffed puzzles. Case in point - this riddle in the Cursed Cold Cavern:

riddle

With the

answer:

chain.
Brave to say this in a world where wooden chainmail is the latest fashion trend. I expected the answer to be some sort of mineral that forms bubble-wrap-like structures.

I think the writers should care about precision in their wording when writing such enigmas - or, even better, get people experienced with writing technical documentation to create them.


2) I liked how almost all of the dunegons had some differentiating characteristics: Dragon Cavern featuring dragons and tons of gold; Blackwind dungeon with its invisible teleports; Cathedral of Carnage filled to the brim with spells to learn; or The Arachnoid Cavern with a puzzle forcing you to learn a lot about the structure of a dungeon - if you wanted to get those bonuses to stats while they were still relevant. Also, I don't think I ever saw before dungeons constantly referencing other dungeons; I think it added some tension to exploration - like constantly seeing remarks about the Maze From Hell being quite an unpleasant location.

3) Another pleasing idea in this game is that the player was rewarded for exploration with simplification of exploration (getting swimming or mountaineering; walk on water and other positional spells; portal activation words) - though I wouldn't expect anything else from a game in this series. In most open-world games I saw, the later I was in the game, the more boring traversing the world was; here, I got the Interspacial Transport Box allowing me to traverse the entire world almost instantly in the penultimate dungeon.

4) The game was possible to complete using only a keyboard, and all actions were effectively discrete; the obvious implication is that the game should (and was) quite fast; the less obvious is that it could be scripted - for example, I wrote some simple scripts that pressed key combinations, allowing me to buff automatically (spells + Blistering Heights statues + Well on D1 giving +100 to everything) or repair all the broken equipment after eradication without needing to lift a finger. I would love to see a game allowing me to write scripts using internal information about the state of the game - for example, in case of this game, what is my position+direction on the map, which parts of equipment are broken, or what is the status of my company - so that it would be possible to receive feedback from the game without resorting to processing screenshots.

I preferred this game to the sixth and seventh ones; I didn't feel like the game was punishing me for progress with subsequent tiresome encounters or, even worse, Castle Darkmoor.

I like the script part. How did you write them?

 

[behold_a_man]

I like the script part. How did you write them?

This is an example of the actual script - the one I used for buffing:

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time

SLEEP_BEFORE_START = 3
SLEEP_TIMES = {
        'movement': 0.15,
        'yes no': 0.2,
        'regular spell': 0.6,
        'altar change location': 8,
        'teleport no location change' : 1.2,
        'teleport change location': 6
}
SORCERER_POSITION = 5
CLERIC_POSITION = 4

SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER = {
        'teleport' : 21,
        'power shield' : 16,
}

SPELL_POSITION_CLERIC = {
        'blessed': 14,
        'holy bonus': 15,
        'heroism': 17
}

keyboard = Controller()

def banal_click(to_press, time_sleep = SLEEP_TIMES['movement']):
    keyboard.press(to_press)
    keyboard.release(to_press)
    time.sleep(time_sleep)

def move_forward(amount):
    to_press = Key.up
    for x in range(amount):
        banal_click(to_press)

def spell(person=None, spell_number=-1, additional = (), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']):
    spell_button = 'c'
    banal_click(spell_button)
    if person:
        to_press = Key.__getattr__(f'f{person}')
        banal_click(to_press)

    if spell_number >= 0:
        banal_click('n')
        for x in range(spell_number-10):
            banal_click(Key.down)
        if spell_number >= 10:
            banal_click('0')
        else:
            banal_click(spell_number)
        banal_click('s')

    banal_click(spell_button)
    for button in additional:
        banal_click(button)
    time.sleep(post_wait)


def turn_left():
    banal_click(Key.left)

def turn_right():
    banal_click(Key.right)

def yes():
    banal_click('y', SLEEP_TIMES['yes no'])

def no():
    banal_click('n', SLEEP_TIMES['yes no'])

def spell_buffing():
    for spell_number in [SPELL_POSITION_CLERIC[_] for _ in ('blessed', 'holy bonus', 'heroism')]:
        first_time = False
        for key in [Key.f1, Key.f2]:
            spell(person=CLERIC_POSITION, spell_number=-1 if first_time else spell_number, additional = (key,), post_wait=SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']) #Spellcaster's Buffs (No protection from elements
            first_time = True

    time.sleep(1)
    first_time = False
    for key in [Key.__getattr__(f'f{_}') for _ in range(1, 7)]:
        spell(person=SORCERER_POSITION, spell_number=-1 if first_time else SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER['power shield'], additional = (key,), post_wait=SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']) #Spellcaster's Buffs (No protection from elements
        first_time = True

def write(txt):
    for _ in txt:
        banal_click(_)
    banal_click(Key.enter)

def to_the_well():
    turn_right()
    turn_right()
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER['teleport'], ('4', Key.enter), SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    turn_right()
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport change location'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('5', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport change location'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    turn_right()
    yes()
    yes()
    yes()

def sequencer(*args):
    for x in args:
        if type(x) == int:
            move_forward(x)
        if x == 'l':
            turn_left()
        if x == 'r':
            turn_right()
        if type(x) == tuple and x[0] == 's':
            spell(**x[1])
        if type(x) == str and x[0] == 'y': #yes + amount of times to execute it
          amount = 1
          if len(x) > 0:
              amount = int(x[1:])
          for _ in range(amount):
              yes()

        if x == 'n':
            no()
        if x=='t': #turn around
            turn_right()
            turn_right()

def resistances_to_well():
    sequencer('t', 1, 'l', 4, 'r', 1, 'y1')
    time.sleep(1)
    write('air')
    time.sleep(SLEEP_TIMES['altar change location'])
    to_the_well()

time.sleep(SLEEP_BEFORE_START)
# Start: face North, (14, 6) - Blistering Heights (location after Town Portal / Box use)
spell_buffing()
time.sleep(2)
sequencer(2, 'l', 3, 'y2', 4, 'n', 4, 'y2', 't', 4, 'n', 'l', 4, #Here - elemental resistances
       'y2', 't', 4, 'n', 5, 'y2')
time.sleep(2)
resistances_to_well()

Note that I have to start at a certain place ((14, 6) - Blistering Heights) facing north. SLEEP_BEFORE_START determines the time I need to switch context to a game - the only thing this script does is pressing buttons and waiting. It's probably possible to send keys directly to the process, but I don't think it would be very portable. All the sleeping times were subjected to tinkering.
Now, obviously, this code is not very polished. I started by writing something like

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time
keyboard = Controller()

time.sleep(3)
keyboard.press(Key.up)
keyboard.release(Key.up)
time.sleep(0.1)
keyboard.press(Key.up)
keyboard.release(Key.up)
time.sleep(0.1)

And then gradually moved all the repeating parts into functions, and some repeating hardcoded variables into constants. There are some Python hacks - like using __getattr__ to get an attribute of the Key class from a string or dictionary unpacking (**some_list) to easily pass a dictionary as a list of arguments to a function - but you can avoid them (albeit the code will be even less concise).
The only visible and obvious problems are the fact that I need to start facing the exact direction and know the position of a spell in a list of each character; the lack of feedback gets more frustrating when it comes to repair:

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time

TIME_SLEEP = 0.15
keyboard = Controller()
def banal_click(to_press, time_sleep = TIME_SLEEP):
    keyboard.press(to_press)
    keyboard.release(to_press)
    time.sleep(time_sleep)

sizes = [-1, 17, 0, 17, 0, 0, 16] # This fixes 17 first items of the person under F1, 0 from person under F2 etc. -1 starts the list here, because F0 doesn't exist, and indexing in python starts from 0.

time.sleep(3)
for person_to_repair in range(1, 7):
    banal_click(Key.__getattr__(f'f{person_to_repair}'))
    for item in range(1, sizes[person_to_repair]+1):
        if item == 10:
            banal_click(Key.down)
        post_item = item if item<10 else item-9
        banal_click(f'{post_item}')
        banal_click('f')
        banal_click('y', 0.3)

Now: why did I need the hardcoded amount of items for each character? Because if I try to repair an item that doesn't exist, the script will get stuck (I'll get the message "Fix which item" that the script can't see, and I'll need to enter a digit).
This game would be easy to automate almost completely - because of the discrete nature of all actions - if one could get some response from the game that could be processed like a plain text.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Were you using those dead mercs as backpacks? It has been awhile since I messed with III.

 

[behold_a_man]

Were you using those dead mercs as backpacks? It has been awhile since I messed with III.

Of course. Unpaid labor always comes in handy.

 

[Dorateen]

The Might & Magic III discussion is very interesting. Thirty years ago, the Thanksgiving holiday fell on November 25, 1993 and I was in the middle of playing Isles of Terra. I found the old notebook I had used to record the adventure, and here is a page from that day.

I always loved how much random information M&M throws at the player during exploration, giving hints of what might be found in later areas.

 

[Mauman]

The Might & Magic III discussion is very interesting. Thirty years ago, the Thanksgiving holiday fell on November 25, 1993 and I was in the middle of playing Isles of Terra. I found the old notebook I had used to record the adventure, and here is a page from that day.

I always loved how much random information M&M throws at the player during exploration, giving hints of what might be found in later areas.

Reminds me of the big giant binder me and my brother kept when we were playing mm2 together.

 

[solemgar]

I like the script part. How did you write them?

This is an example of the actual script - the one I used for buffing:

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time

SLEEP_BEFORE_START = 3
SLEEP_TIMES = {
        'movement': 0.15,
        'yes no': 0.2,
        'regular spell': 0.6,
        'altar change location': 8,
        'teleport no location change' : 1.2,
        'teleport change location': 6
}
SORCERER_POSITION = 5
CLERIC_POSITION = 4

SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER = {
        'teleport' : 21,
        'power shield' : 16,
}

SPELL_POSITION_CLERIC = {
        'blessed': 14,
        'holy bonus': 15,
        'heroism': 17
}

keyboard = Controller()

def banal_click(to_press, time_sleep = SLEEP_TIMES['movement']):
    keyboard.press(to_press)
    keyboard.release(to_press)
    time.sleep(time_sleep)

def move_forward(amount):
    to_press = Key.up
    for x in range(amount):
        banal_click(to_press)

def spell(person=None, spell_number=-1, additional = (), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']):
    spell_button = 'c'
    banal_click(spell_button)
    if person:
        to_press = Key.__getattr__(f'f{person}')
        banal_click(to_press)

    if spell_number >= 0:
        banal_click('n')
        for x in range(spell_number-10):
            banal_click(Key.down)
        if spell_number >= 10:
            banal_click('0')
        else:
            banal_click(spell_number)
        banal_click('s')

    banal_click(spell_button)
    for button in additional:
        banal_click(button)
    time.sleep(post_wait)


def turn_left():
    banal_click(Key.left)

def turn_right():
    banal_click(Key.right)

def yes():
    banal_click('y', SLEEP_TIMES['yes no'])

def no():
    banal_click('n', SLEEP_TIMES['yes no'])

def spell_buffing():
    for spell_number in [SPELL_POSITION_CLERIC[_] for _ in ('blessed', 'holy bonus', 'heroism')]:
        first_time = False
        for key in [Key.f1, Key.f2]:
            spell(person=CLERIC_POSITION, spell_number=-1 if first_time else spell_number, additional = (key,), post_wait=SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']) #Spellcaster's Buffs (No protection from elements
            first_time = True

    time.sleep(1)
    first_time = False
    for key in [Key.__getattr__(f'f{_}') for _ in range(1, 7)]:
        spell(person=SORCERER_POSITION, spell_number=-1 if first_time else SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER['power shield'], additional = (key,), post_wait=SLEEP_TIMES['regular spell']) #Spellcaster's Buffs (No protection from elements
        first_time = True

def write(txt):
    for _ in txt:
        banal_click(_)
    banal_click(Key.enter)

def to_the_well():
    turn_right()
    turn_right()
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, SPELL_POSITION_SORCERER['teleport'], ('4', Key.enter), SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    turn_right()
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport change location'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('5', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport change location'])
    spell(SORCERER_POSITION, additional = ('9', Key.enter), post_wait = SLEEP_TIMES['teleport no location change'])
    turn_right()
    yes()
    yes()
    yes()

def sequencer(*args):
    for x in args:
        if type(x) == int:
            move_forward(x)
        if x == 'l':
            turn_left()
        if x == 'r':
            turn_right()
        if type(x) == tuple and x[0] == 's':
            spell(**x[1])
        if type(x) == str and x[0] == 'y': #yes + amount of times to execute it
          amount = 1
          if len(x) > 0:
              amount = int(x[1:])
          for _ in range(amount):
              yes()

        if x == 'n':
            no()
        if x=='t': #turn around
            turn_right()
            turn_right()

def resistances_to_well():
    sequencer('t', 1, 'l', 4, 'r', 1, 'y1')
    time.sleep(1)
    write('air')
    time.sleep(SLEEP_TIMES['altar change location'])
    to_the_well()

time.sleep(SLEEP_BEFORE_START)
# Start: face North, (14, 6) - Blistering Heights (location after Town Portal / Box use)
spell_buffing()
time.sleep(2)
sequencer(2, 'l', 3, 'y2', 4, 'n', 4, 'y2', 't', 4, 'n', 'l', 4, #Here - elemental resistances
       'y2', 't', 4, 'n', 5, 'y2')
time.sleep(2)
resistances_to_well()

Note that I have to start at a certain place ((14, 6) - Blistering Heights) facing north. SLEEP_BEFORE_START determines the time I need to switch context to a game - the only thing this script does is pressing buttons and waiting. It's probably possible to send keys directly to the process, but I don't think it would be very portable. All the sleeping times were subjected to tinkering.
Now, obviously, this code is not very polished. I started by writing something like

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time
keyboard = Controller()

time.sleep(3)
keyboard.press(Key.up)
keyboard.release(Key.up)
time.sleep(0.1)
keyboard.press(Key.up)
keyboard.release(Key.up)
time.sleep(0.1)

And then gradually moved all the repeating parts into functions, and some repeating hardcoded variables into constants. There are some Python hacks - like using __getattr__ to get an attribute of the Key class from a string or dictionary unpacking (**some_list) to easily pass a dictionary as a list of arguments to a function - but you can avoid them (albeit the code will be even less concise).
The only visible and obvious problems are the fact that I need to start facing the exact direction and know the position of a spell in a list of each character; the lack of feedback gets more frustrating when it comes to repair:

code

from pynput.keyboard import Key, Controller
import time

TIME_SLEEP = 0.15
keyboard = Controller()
def banal_click(to_press, time_sleep = TIME_SLEEP):
    keyboard.press(to_press)
    keyboard.release(to_press)
    time.sleep(time_sleep)

sizes = [-1, 17, 0, 17, 0, 0, 16] # This fixes 17 first items of the person under F1, 0 from person under F2 etc. -1 starts the list here, because F0 doesn't exist, and indexing in python starts from 0.

time.sleep(3)
for person_to_repair in range(1, 7):
    banal_click(Key.__getattr__(f'f{person_to_repair}'))
    for item in range(1, sizes[person_to_repair]+1):
        if item == 10:
            banal_click(Key.down)
        post_item = item if item<10 else item-9
        banal_click(f'{post_item}')
        banal_click('f')
        banal_click('y', 0.3)

Now: why did I need the hardcoded amount of items for each character? Because if I try to repair an item that doesn't exist, the script will get stuck (I'll get the message "Fix which item" that the script can't see, and I'll need to enter a digit).
This game would be easy to automate almost completely - because of the discrete nature of all actions - if one could get some response from the game that could be processed like a plain text.

Awesome! But how do you send the keys to the actual process once it gets the focus ? Or the script just runs in the background arbitrarily pressing keys?

I think something like this would be wonders for my Ishar playthrough in 86box

 

[behold_a_man]

But how do you send the keys to the actual process once it gets the focus ? Or the script just runs in the background arbitrarily pressing keys?

All I do is execute the script (either from the command line or in any other way), switch the focus (I've got SLEEP_BEFORE_START seconds - set to 3 here) to the game (by clicking on its window), and... that's it.
The script acts exactly as if I was pressing the keys. In the current implementation, I can't change the focus while the script executes - this would require some magic with finding certain processes for the banal_click function, I don't know whether the pynput module allows that, and it probably wouldn't be portable (I ran this game on Wine under Linux).

And, by the way - deleting a team member overwrites the last save - so I recommend backing up your saves in this game.

 

[solemgar]

But how do you send the keys to the actual process once it gets the focus ? Or the script just runs in the background arbitrarily pressing keys?

All I do is execute the script (either from the command line or in any other way), switch the focus (I've got SLEEP_BEFORE_START seconds - set to 3 here) to the game (by clicking on its window), and... that's it.
The script acts exactly as if I was pressing the keys. In the current implementation, I can't change the focus while the script executes - this would require some magic with finding certain processes for the banal_click function, I don't know whether the pynput module allows that, and it probably wouldn't be portable (I ran this game on Wine under Linux).

And, by the way - deleting a team member overwrites the last save - so I recommend backing up your saves in this game.

Noice, thanks for the details

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

Was playing merge mod from MM6, and didn't realize what the "bolster enemies" option did until just now. I thought I was just playing the game wrong (which, I wasn't really) and things were just more tanky than I remembered. Then I came across the well in Rockham and despite everything I tried, I could not defeat the ambush there. It took me maybe like half an hour of trying different things, having 40+ fire res, 40+ luck, and pretty good stats to realize that the fireballs were just doing too much damage to me and it took dealing over 250 damage to kill one of the archers. I looked at the settings and then turned it off, and was able to breeze past it after doing that. I just fundamentally misunderstood what the option was for, I thought it was for the other campaigns, not the current one. I was wondering why I just couldn't get past those wizard encampments in Free haven, they'd just R.I.P. me without me killing anything. I should have taken it as a sign earlier when I was having troubles with some giant rats in Bootleg bay.

Maybe I'll tweak it a bit later so that it's on and I'm not steamrolling, but I was getting outlevelled by the overworld content lol.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Well….. giant rats! They’re horrible.

 

[Kayato]

Hello everyone, sorry for being a noob, I just signed up and I didn't find any presentation or generic topic so I'm writing directly here.
I was browsing the internet asking for information about Might and Magic 1 and 2 and they advised me to come here and ask.....and here I am! So what direction should I go than making posts about M&M 1&2?

 

[octavius]

You're in the right place. Ask away.

 

[Kayato]

Ah ok, I was transported to this topic, perfect! So I recently finished M&M1 (also using some guides), but there are some things that aren't clear to me:
- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?
- The second part of the main quest (after the dog statue) here too do you simply have to explore all the locations you see on the map or was there any clue on where to go? (plus the BJ clue)
- Were there any clues in the answer to Og's question?

 

[Mauman]

Hello everyone, sorry for being a noob, I just signed up and I didn't find any presentation or generic topic so I'm writing directly here.
I was browsing the internet asking for information about Might and Magic 1 and 2 and they advised me to come here and ask.....and here I am! So what direction should I go than making posts about M&M 1&2?

I've never played MM1, but I've beaten MM2. What exactly is your question?

 

[behold_a_man]

- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?

Maybe? Mild spoiler

I stumbled upon Merchant's Pass by accident while exploring, if that's what you're asking for.

 

[octavius]

IIRC there is a clue that you need the Merchant Pass, but not where to find it. But it is in a place you would likely explore in the early game.

As for the other questions, I don't remember the details, but I think there were some rather obscue clues.

 

[Kayato]

I've already finished the game, there are certain things I had to look for solutions online, I just wanted to understand if I hadn't found/understood some clues or simply there are no clues and you simply have to go around/try around the world.
Some of these things are:
-Merchant Pass and King Pass.
-Where to go after the "dog statue"
-The answer to Og's question