Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[UndeadHalfOrc]

So there's a guy going around the interwebs right now (not gonna name him) plugging his new "MM database" site. LOL. I checked it out, it's fucking garbage. He simply parrots the same old debunked inflo I've read countless times.
He should have spent more time playing and testing the game, or reading the damn source code from scumm, instead of making obvious AI generated fantasy art.

 

[DaveO]

People think it would be pretty easy to make some M&M game-related site, but MMX proved that it was the last iteration of the series. With no new M&M material until who knows when(if ever), it's up to modders to make the changes and design M&M as they see fit while still being M&M.

 

[octavius]

Still waiting for someone to dissect MM2.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Still waiting for someone to dissect MM2.

I just might wanna do that after I'm done toying around with the data files of MM4/5... I wanna know precisely how Archers' hidden damage bonus work, and a few other things.
The PC version of MM2 is surprisingly relatively bug free.

 

[Morpheus Kitami]

>start might and magic 7

>immediately die to dragonflies outside the first town

Help I have no ideas what to do

Does the game tutorialize nothing?

The thing to know about MM, and in general any game from that era and earlier, is that running away is not a cowardly action, it's often the only way you'll survive the early game. Do not be afraid to pick them off one by one, backing up as you aggro them individually.

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

I began an M&M6 MAW True Nightmare playthrough. Seraphim-Rogue-Cleric-Necromancer party. Looks hard in the beginning. (Sorry for the bad video quality - OSB has some problems with this game)

 

[lukaszek]

M&M6 MAW

Sparks​

2+1 pr rank​

3+1d3 pr rank​

at master cost is increased to 13, while strong in early game sparks lacked the punch for lategame viability.​

edit:

New Sorpigal Portal to dragonsands moved into the Oasis, instead of the shrine of god obelisk.

 

[octavius]

The thing to know about MM, and in general any game from that era and earlier, is that running away is not a cowardly action, it's often the only way you'll survive the early game. Do not be afraid to pick them off one by one, backing up as you aggro them individually.

The expression "running away" is problematic...I prefer "tactical regrouping" myself.

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

I used to call it a "strategic advance to the rear", but after BG3 that means something entirely different.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

I call it guerilla tactics.

 

[octavius]

I prefer gorilla tactics.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

running away is not a cowardly action

Pfff... Fetchez la vache !

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

A bro of mine released his MM7 mod recently.

 

[Storyfag]

Looks pretty!

 

[Butter]

A bro of mine released his MM7 mod recently.

Not a very long video. I guess it's too early for a full length review.

 

[cthscr]

There are two outdoor maps and 6 dungeons, but content-per-square-meter is much better than in vanilla games. Empty areas are not quite a thing in this mod.

It takes around 6 to 12 hours to complete the whole game. Might take more... it depends.

https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/topic?t=17442&start=60#p392590

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Check this out, a MM6-7-8 clone. Looks good.

Wardens of Chaos
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2787180/Wardens_of_Chaos/

 

[lukaszek]

Looks good.

but it doesnt play good. Got its own thread https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/wardens-of-chaos-might-and-magic-6-8-clone.150454/

 

[TheDeveloperDude]

Finally you can play M&M6

 

[Average Manatee]

I definitely remember explosive arrows having a rather big AoE and killing the party when I used them. But I don't recall finding one of those bows in M&M6, only 7 and 8.

 

[Kabas]

A bro of mine released his MM7 mod recently.

Tried this mod.

It is indeed pretty, the town is especially a joy to explore.
My main gripe and the reason why i couldn't get that far into MM6-8 is the sheer amount of busywork you end up doing while outside the dungeons like searching for the right skill master or that one shop that buys your specific junk so i appreciate that the majority of skill trainers/shops here tend to congregate in a single place. Still can't find the sword trainer though.
Dungeons are pretty too with lots of neat visual details and some occasional secret.

Currently exploring the Apple cave/mine.

 

[Average Manatee]

My main gripe and the reason why i couldn't get that far into MM6-8 is the sheer amount of busywork you end up doing while outside the dungeons like searching for the right skill master or that one shop that buys your specific junk so i appreciate that the majority of skill trainers/shops here tend to congregate in a single place

Aye, I feel like that's 2/3rds of the gametime in MM7/8. In 6 its not too bad because no grandmaster level and Golden Touch can handle most of your item selling eventually. Really don't know why they removed that in later games, I guess because it would give a significant quality of life advantage to one of the mutually exclusive paths in 7?

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Has anyone ever attempted a single class challenge in MM3-4-5 ?
Or close to it, like 5 archers and 1 cleric seems interesting. Trying to kill everything with bows as much as possible, abusing jump/teleport/lloyds and guerilla tactics
(Cleric mostly there to provide Holy Bonus and Heroism)
Or 5 sorcerers and 1 cleric, but with attack spells
Or 5 barbarians and 1 druid (using items to cast Teleport only when it's mandatory to advance the quest)

 

[octavius]

I must admit that few things appeal to me less than playing 4-6 characters of the same class in party based game.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

I generally agree with you, octavius;
In the Final Fantasy Tactics message board on gamefaqs when it was really active, they pushed this to an extreme, to the point of judging a class solely by its effectiveness when you use nothing but.
"Knights suck because they suck in SCCC!" (single class character challenge)

But I am still interested in the result in MM3-4-5 from a pure theory and testing perpective.