The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[just]

does picture of kate dollaryhyde smiling exist

 

[AwesomeButton]

99% of us are just playing it to shitpost about it.

So, Hipstercodex.

 

[cvv]

If nothing else, Tevinter is more of an interesting setting than Soy Worlds.

Tevinter will be an evil patriarchy with white men twisting their moustaches doing mwhahaha while the Resistance will be lead by women, all stunning, brave and lesbian. If you're expecting anything else you've been sitting in that warming water for too long, just like the "I don't see any SJW influence in TOW" people ITT.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

If nothing else, Tevinter is more of an interesting setting than Soy Worlds.

Tevinter will be evil patriarchy with white men twisting their moustaches doing mwhahaha while the Resistance will be lead by women, all stunning, brave and lesbian. If you're expecting anything else you've been sitting in that warming water for too long, just like the "I don't see any SJW influence in TOW" people ITT.

Hopefully we can side with the conservative mages and genocide the Elv*s.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Not far enough in yet to really pass judgment, but the writing is ten times better than average game writing. Even if it ends up their most meh overall, it's still far above average for the medium.

Disagree. As little as I cared for AC: Odyssey, the writing in it was better than this. AC: Origins was much better. And these are the very definition of average mainstream games.

Like I've said in the past, writing talent in videogames is in AAA right now.

 

[Fedora Master]

Companions dying permanently on Supernova is dumb as hell, it is barely worth it to keep them with you in that case.

 

[Daidre]

99% of us are just playing it to shitpost about it.

So, Hipstercodex.

Well, I dropped this game 2 hours in but maybe will give it a another chance at some weekend when in right masochistic mood.

So now I shitpost about TOW while playing Spellforce 3 addon. You know, snoozy eurotrash RTS/RPG hybrid rather than new Obsidian game.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Woe typically takes a break from the forum on weekends. She'll probably be back tomorrow.

Who works on a sunday anyway ?

McDonald's

 

[Reinhardt]

Also fun fact, "Muslim" is a banned word, so I guess we could probably sue Obsidian on hate-speech grounds.

Muslim is also a given name, just like Christian is. Of course, that's not an appropriate name for your character in a singleplayer game. Because that would be... bad, somehow.

I personally knew guy named "Muslim" and he even had Allah-something surname. But i guess he's not good enough for californian kwans.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

99% of us are just playing it to shitpost about it.

So, Hipstercodex.

Well, I dropped this game 2 hours in but maybe will give it a another chance at some weekend when in right masochistic mood.

So now I shitpost about TOW while playing Spellforce 3 addon. You know, snoozy eurotrash RTS/RPG hybrid rather than new Obsidian game.

Spellforce is great, although 3 is so-so.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I guess I kind of did. All the shit they said about leaving Cain and Boyarsky alone to work on their dream project just like they want it led me to that sorry fate.

You shouldn't have believed them. Or maybe this IS their dream project. Welcome to aging has-been territory, you've been in here for a while but the haze hadn't worn off yet.

I called that too. I named it "limp dick game design".

Aug 8:

... my expectation was to see something much more brave and "breaking the formula" than what was produced in 18 months...

I dunno how could you have expected that.

Their goal from day one was a massive, consolidated target audience for their "retirement project". They literally said in an interview mainstream success was their goal.

The gaming industry has gotten old enough for us to witness the phase of "limp dick game design"?

 

[the mole]

Companions dying permanently on Supernova is dumb as hell, it is barely worth it to keep them with you in that case.

Why did you pick the hardest difficulty, if you couldn't handle it

 

[Fedora Master]

Companions dying permanently on Supernova is dumb as hell, it is barely worth it to keep them with you in that case.

Why did you pick the hardest difficulty, if you couldn't handle it

It's not a question of handling it or not - the game is piss easy even on Supernova - but one of convenience. The companion AI is too dumb to stay alive much and gets downed constantly no matter what, which makes them unusable on Supernova.

 

[MajorMace]

Alright it took me quite some time to finally get to download it but to my defense, my internet is pretty bad since I moved in a new apt recently.
I heard quite a lot about it, seems to be that typical kind of games which divides its playerbase regarding its actual quality (or lack of). It was about time I made my own opinion, as it got more and more complicated to see through the bullshit.

First, I need to address this immediately, since it's the core of the gameplay : the shooting is a bit lacking. I mean, some might say it's not suprising, as bethesda games tend to suck in that department -and always have if i'm to believe the poor folks who tried that weird ass action game they released before making rpgs- but let me remind you that this isn't actually a bethesda game, they didn't actually develop it, despite what a lot of people might think at first glance.
Weapons are not varied enough, especially compared to the prestigious ancestors which reputation this game tries to live up to. You might think : "Well, MajorCunt, it's not the same gameplay at all, a couple of decades have passed by, it was obviously much easier to offer a large array of guns back then, quit bitching about it, at least you have more options than just shooting through everything now". Well, some might argue you had other options than shooting through everything back then as well, but that's not the point.
The point is, in a nutshell : the shooting isn't very good. And since that's the main way to interact with your foes in this game, it's a bit disappointing.

Second, an important aspect of the game : the level-design. Now that's pretty solid actually. I didn't expect much from it, the premise of the game didn't offer much to be excited for in that regard. Especially considering the modern trends of game design. But it's interesting to explore it, actually utilises all 3 spatial dimensions, hides stuff literally everywhere and allows for a variety of approaches in every level !
Now, again, some people will think I'm over-exaggerating but this truly gave me the impression that this game surpasses its ancestors in that specific department. It just feels good to explore, the same couln't be said back in the XXth century.

Storywise, the writing kinda sucks, it's true. But that's not really all that impactful on the experience. Sure, I think the way they portray the people & organisations in power as literal nazis, whose depiction is pushed to the caricature for the sake of weird characterisation -which itself doesn't work, for me at least- is quite baffling, and pretty bad overall. But at the end of the day, it matters little and the only reason I'm moving on is curiosity. Despite the shooting, which isnt very compelling, I find a lot of amusement in just... well going forward.

Now to my real grief, I know it's [current year] and certain things are now considered inacceptable, but the fact you can't side with the bad guys is a serious oversight (if not the fruit of self-censorship). I can already hear the sjws scream "what is wrong with you, you fascist ? Siding with these literal nazis ? Are you outside of your mind right now ?" but I'm all for consistent and solid C&C. The player should be given the opportunity to fight for whichever side they consider is worth fighting for. Politics shouldn't matter in this decision.

Overall, I'm glad I picked up this game, I haven't finished yet, I'm cleaning the levels, one bunker at a time. In a word, Wolfenstein : The New Order is popamole, but it's good popamole.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

Name filter in a singleplayer game.

 

[the mole]

Companions dying permanently on Supernova is dumb as hell, it is barely worth it to keep them with you in that case.

Why did you pick the hardest difficulty, if you couldn't handle it

It's not a question of handling it or not - the game is piss easy even on Supernova - but one of convenience. The companion AI is too dumb to stay alive much and gets downed constantly no matter what, which makes them unusable on Supernova.

Exactly, I generally top the scoreboards and am in the top 1 percent of every multiplayer game I play, but I play single player on normal so I don't have to put up with more stupid bullshit, it's an exercise in futility

 

[countrydoctor]

After getting up to Monarch i can barely muster any strength to continue playing it. I've managed to finish Fallout 4 and Cisquisition despite greatly disliking most aspects of them.

The RPG "system" is straight insulting. It treats me more like a mouthbreather than a god damn F4. Stats only greatly impact the character if you go into the negatives. I can utterly devastate everything on hard with mere 60 in long guns and don't see any reason to go further. Perks are hilariously boring.
Gunplay is worse than F4 too. It lacks even the most basic shit like grenades on hotkeys. They even managed to make science weapons boring. Local shrink ray may as well be the most pathetic shrink ray i've seen in any game ever, can't even crush the enemies under my heels.
Tactical dilation is probably the only well thought combat mechanic of the game, and even then the debuff system barely matters because it's easier to kill the enemy outright instead of disabling him. Exploration is barely existent thanks to the pathetic size of the areas.

The setting and characters thus far has been offensively bland and toothless. Everything about it feels like a corporate-produced product which is hilarious given the theme of the game.
In many ways it reminds me of what i felt while playing the first Pillars of Eternity. The same dull, boring, overbalanced product trying to cash on past greatness. Only this time it's not grey. Instead it's full of colour vomit covered with chromatic aberration on top of it. Which may as well be even worse.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

, but the fact you can't side with the bad guys is a serious oversight

You can side with the bad guys tho.

Help Reed at edgewater then later in the Groundbreaker go to Udam e sell Phineas, actually you can say to the guard in edgewater that you know Phineas.

Nevermind lol

 

[Heroic Liberator]

, but the fact you can't side with the bad guys is a serious oversight

You can side with the bad guys tho.

Help Reed at edgewater then later in the Groundbreaker go to Udam e sell Phineas, actually you can say to the guard in edgewater that you know Phineas.

So what's the 'evil' faction all about anyhow?

 

[Riddler]

Now to my real grief, I know it's [current year] and certain things are now considered inacceptable, but the fact you can't side with the bad guys is a serious oversight (if not the fruit of self-censorship). I can already hear the sjws scream "what is wrong with you, you fascist ? Siding with these literal nazis ? Are you outside of your mind right now ?" but I'm all for consistent and solid C&C. The player should be given the opportunity to fight for whichever side they consider is worth fighting for. Politics shouldn't matter in this decision.

You can't? Perhaps I haven't gotten far enough in the game but I thought you could sell out Phineas almost immediately.

 

[Prime Junta]

So what's the 'evil' faction all about anyhow?

There aren't any evil factions. They're all just various flavours of misguided, having drifted off the path of Capitalism with a Human Face each in their own way.

 

[ciox]

Part of this could be easily fixed if they dropped from 50 to 30 skills. It's a good system , just need some tweaks. Also agree about Perks. They could make interesting perks , they don't even need make much ''special'' perks because of the flaw system. Just cooler perks..
Or even forget perk at all. Some bonnuses from the skills would be perk in a Fallout game.

The system is just trying to do too many things at once, you won't fix it that easily.

With all the things they're trying to do at once the game would probably need 8 attributes, adding Luck and Endurance, then maybe there wouldn't be random health and critical bonuses scattered everywhere.

The fixed relevant skill bonuses combined with weaker and more generic perks as a counterweight, are also quite harsh on replayability, the greater freedom in selecting perks is wasted.

 

[Mortmal]

Imagine being offended by someone else's twitter you're more of a pussy than literal fags

What do you mean ? Codexers being whiney little bitches complaining about not being able to make characters with flowing long hair enhanced by nvidia hairwork , and offended by an evil womyn who wrote one non obstructive asexual lesbian romance in their shooter with stats ? Nonsense this is a place of critical thinking , a stronghold against decline.

 

[the mole]

For everyone saying the level design is good you don't know shit, mostly identical rooms and hallways with very little variation isn't good level design it's lazy

Compare that to something like the Bison Steve Hotel from New Vegas and The Tops, and the designs are so far apart in quality, to compare them is a fucking joke

The writing I think had quite a lot of thought put into it, but I could give less than a fuck about any of it

The main reason the shooting is unsatisfying is bullet sponge enemies

 

[Child of Malkav]

If that stat about ~75% of FONV team members leaving Obsidian up until recently is true, then expecting anything of NV quality in their future titles is simply unrealistic.
Cainarsky worked on their "dream game" and this is what they managed to come up with? This? A bad copy of a Bethesda game? With the funding they had and everything? I guess they were more concerned with not making a bugged game, because that seems to be the only noticeable good aspect of this game compared to their previous efforts.
Disappointing is an understatement.
After many flawed gems, they finally deliver a polished turd. And on their own terms.
Also, going from Witcher 3 female models (Yennefer, Triss, Keira etc) to these lovecraftian, Eldritch, BB Ludwig style cosmic horrors? How the fuck did that happen?
I'll finish this once, but after that, unless they release a DLC that magically fixes everything, I'm done.
To fall this low. This is literally the Underworld Ascendant of Obsidian.

Edit: typos.