The Secret World

[Mangoose]

you could totally rip out the hearts of high level players

Literally.



Mangoose BS and PoM best classes evar.

They were. Now those classes are how you design a hybrid class. Then again many of the classes were not straightforward... Even if they seemed to be, you had to play smart. E.g. the Herald of Xotli: Sure, the mechanics were straightforward, but the subtle fact that you were so fragile meant you had to play very very smart.

And I didn't even play a HoX so I don't have much motive to praise it. Other than the fact that I didn't have the balls to play one.

Course I guess there were phases of one class being to OP or another class being too nerfed or whatever (as usual) but eh balance issues as usual.

I almost want to say that it was a good combat system but it was more like good combat design, if that nuance makes any sense. (Not meant for PVE though... wish they never even bothered with raids and shit)

 

[bozia2012]

you could totally rip out the hearts of high level players

Literally.



Mangoose BS and PoM best classes evar.

They were. Now those classes are how you design a hybrid class. Then again many of the classes were not straightforward... Even if they seemed to be, you had to play smart. E.g. the Herald of Xotli: Sure, the mechanics were straightforward, but the subtle fact that you were so fragile meant you had to play very very smart.

And I didn't even play a HoX so I don't have much motive to praise it. Other than the fact that I didn't have the balls to play one.

Course I guess there were phases of one class being to OP or another class being too nerfed or whatever (as usual) but eh balance issues as usual.

I almost want to say that it was a good combat system but it was more like good combat design, if that nuance makes any sense. (Not meant for PVE though... wish they never even bothered with raids and shit)

In PvE, HoX was kinda fail - it was easier to deal damage with several other classes and I can't remember they were needed for anything. I've seen some great HoXen, but the whole class reputation was tarnished by ineptness of the rest, old bugs and no skilltree updates. There were many raids/dungeons were soldiers and priests were topping the parse and both archetypes were critical to any group (unlike HoX).

Yeah, lots of combat nuances went out of window once you started doing PvE - it was all focused on add handling, top aggro-swapping (sometimes every hit!), interrupts etc. Melee dpsers would just bunch at the back of the boss and whack away.

 

[Mangoose]

you could totally rip out the hearts of high level players

Literally.



Mangoose BS and PoM best classes evar.

They were. Now those classes are how you design a hybrid class. Then again many of the classes were not straightforward... Even if they seemed to be, you had to play smart. E.g. the Herald of Xotli: Sure, the mechanics were straightforward, but the subtle fact that you were so fragile meant you had to play very very smart.

And I didn't even play a HoX so I don't have much motive to praise it. Other than the fact that I didn't have the balls to play one.

Course I guess there were phases of one class being to OP or another class being too nerfed or whatever (as usual) but eh balance issues as usual.

I almost want to say that it was a good combat system but it was more like good combat design, if that nuance makes any sense. (Not meant for PVE though... wish they never even bothered with raids and shit)

In PvE, HoX was kinda fail - it was easier to deal damage with several other classes and I can't remember they were needed for anything. I've seen some great HoXen, but the whole class reputation was tarnished by ineptness of the rest, old bugs and no skilltree updates. There were many raids/dungeons were soldiers and priests were topping the parse and both archetypes were critical to any group (unlike HoX).

Yeah, lots of combat nuances went out of window once you started doing PvE - it was all focused on add handling, top aggro-swapping (sometimes every hit!), interrupts etc. Melee dpsers would just bunch at the back of the boss and whack away.

I did like one level 80 PVE dungeon or raid or whatever and that's it. And I don't really remember it. Probably high as fuck.

There was one interesting PVE dungeon and that was the first one. After that it was shite (nor do I remember any of them lol).

I suppose the level up solo PVE grind was more fun than other games though, again because of the combat. Kinda funny actually because the AI would switch shields often (which made choosing combos kinda fun) but the shield system was totally useless and impossible to use in PVP.

 

[bylam]

You're bullshitting something fierce if you are trying to imply that there were enough quests to take you to 40.

I mean, I worked on the 0-40 areas of the game. I'm not implying anything, I had the numbers.

You could argue that you missed some content etc. But you could get to 40 by doing the quests in those areas.

As for lack of content - each of those areas (not the hubs) has as many individual quests as Tortage (not going to argue about quality though, plenty of fetch quests etc.)

 

[bozia2012]

I did like one level 80 PVE dungeon or raid or whatever and that's it. And I don't really remember it. Probably high as fuck.

There was one interesting PVE dungeon and that was the first one. After that it was shite (nor do I remember any of them lol).

I suppose the level up solo PVE grind was more fun than other games though, again because of the combat. Kinda funny actually because the AI would switch shields often (which made choosing combos kinda fun) but the shield system was totally useless and impossible to use in PVP.

The first one? Do you mean the one with traps and Indiana Jones ball? Yeah, it was standing out from the other base dungeons - which were filled with tons of trash mobs and no-mechanic bosses.

The good stuff came with Rise of the Godslayer - almost no trash (unless they were needed for mechanic or atmosphere) and heavy focus on mechanics and uniqueness. Many people missed the old grindy stuff...

In PvE shields rather mattered in soloing - could make a difference if you were low on health. In groups, melee would just hit the unshielded back - the only issue was that some bosses had special treat for those cases.

 

[SerratedBiz]

All the talk about TSW and the screenies in the ss thread made me reinstall it. Last time I barely got halfway through the first Kingsmouth area before putting it down. Now I'm at Blue Mountain and it's working for me. People weren't kidding that investigative missions were the real treat, since pretty much everything else is substandard MMO crap.

I did very much enjoy one of the puzzles involving a set of runes and latin transcriptions. I'm a sucker for those.

 

[bozia2012]

Fixed leaky gas pipes in NYC yesterday.

 

[MaskedMan]

http://www.vg247.com/2015/08/11/age-of-conan-secret-world-dev-funcom-up-for-sale/

Guess it's time I get started on Kaidan.

 

[bozia2012]

http://www.vg247.com/2015/08/11/age-of-conan-secret-world-dev-funcom-up-for-sale/

Guess it's time I get started on Kaidan.

Oh no, Funcom dying again.

If you heard about that, maybe you've heard about this:

https://forums.thesecretworld.com/s...about-the-Currency-System-Changes-in-Issue-12

 

[Rahdulan]

Oh no, LEGO MMORPG didn't work out. Who would've thunk?

 

[J_C]

Funcom could be one of the best RPG developer of our time if they would have concentrated on singleplayer RPGs instead of MMOs. With their writing talent, their SP games would be amazing. Just by thining of a singleplayer Secret World, without the MMO shit gives me a boner.

 

[bozia2012]

Pfff playing TSW gives me a multiheaded boner.

 

[Zombra]

Crap, I guess I better get back to work finishing the main story.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Wish larian still had that cash around and bought these guys, the writing team alone is worth the money, and the ips themselves are quite interesting.

Secret world rpg in the divinity engine would be glorious

 

[bozia2012]

Wish larian still had that cash around and bought these guys, the writing team alone is worth the money, and the ips themselves are quite interesting.

Secret world rpg in the divinity engine would be glorious

I don't remember much from older Divinities, but OS didn't move me in any way (co-op was fun for some time). Art and writing totally bland. What was so special about engine?

 

[Kem0sabe]

I don't remember much from older Divinities, but OS didn't move me in any way (co-op was fun for some time). Art and writing totally bland. What was so special about engine?

It's highly modable, has an interesting tb combat system with a lot of environmental interaction, is relatively well optimized, and the dialogue and scripting systems would fit well with a dialogue heavy rpg like secret world

 

[bozia2012]

It's highly modable, has an interesting tb combat system with a lot of environmental interaction, is relatively well optimized, and the dialogue and scripting systems would fit well with a dialogue heavy rpg like secret world

I wonder how it would handle such big playfields like in TSW. A lot of appeal of this game comes from it's cinematic feel - beautiful landscapes and detailed interiors, colorful NPCs, nicely directed cutscenes with full voice acting etc.

I didn't notice any of that in D:OS.

 

[Zombra]

I would settle for a bland company buying them out, but you know it's going to be some shovelware popup microwhore clickbait nightmare conglomerate.

 

[murloc_gypsy]

shovelware popup microwhore clickbait nightmare conglomerate.

I loved that description

 

[bozia2012]

Just beat Hell Fallen! Still got 4 MPs to run and PH NM, but maybe I'll make it before the game sinks

 

[His Majesty]

Just in time for the new dungeon that should be coming next week end of 2017. I detest HF so I rarely run it. Still don't know what's going on during the last fight, for me it's one giant clusterfuck.

 

[bozia2012]

Just in time for the new dungeon that should be coming next week end of 2017. I detest HF so I rarely run it. Still don't know what's going on during the last fight, for me it's one giant clusterfuck.

Gettin some harder achievments and gearing up will take me some time. But I just love this game so whatever.

HF is a special treat, for adventurous evenings. Yesterday we only had trouble because tank and healer got separated by the "gale" and finishing Gog and Magog was hectic, but on other nights it's usually a total mess just like the Engine Tyrants (got my Taco Hat while training these 2).

 

[WhiteGuts]

I'm giving this game a try, men. Are the DLCs worth buying ?

 

[Zombra]

I'm giving this game a try, men. Are the DLCs worth buying ?

The DLCs have some great content, but the base game is already full of great content. Feel your way through the first few areas of the game and then decide if you need more.

 

[His Majesty]

The issues 1-4 are already incorporated in the base game while 5-11 are end-game content. But they are really worth it imo.