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The STEAM Sales and Releases Thread

Hoaxmetal

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But now, when I see such awesome classics as "Shower with Your Dad Simulator" in the line-up, it's obvious that we have hit Peak Shit.
With over 5k reviews that are 90% postive - god forbid Steam would sell games that people want.
 

pippin

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But now, when I see such awesome classics as "Shower with Your Dad Simulator" in the line-up, it's obvious that we have hit Peak Shit.
With over 5k reviews that are 90% postive - god forbid Steam would sell games that people want.

Come on, you can do better than that

People wanting to buy games and paying for them is ok, it's their money and we aren't anyone's nanny. I'd like to know how different the treatment is for indies and AAA companies. That's why I said Steam is only relevant for AAA companies; kids these days don't see other alternatives and as I've said before some of them are so brainwashed that they refuse to consider GOG as a viable option because DRM free is the same than piracy. In recent weeks, there has been controversy about the closing of MMOs and servers (like that WoW thing) but the fact that all these games rely on online servers to be played is something really negative. In fact, iirc a library forced companies to crack their games so they could be played in offline mode, which is good.
 

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Define "relevant". I assure you that the one-man indie in Eastern Europe who actually makes a good game and manages to sell 10,000-50,000 copies on Steam is pretty happy regardless of how relevant you think that is.
 

DramaticPopcorn

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Gotta love these wannabe couch analytics talking about how steam going down the shitter when its userbase keeps growing regardless of the quality of most releases.
If anything, the amount of releases hurts only indies with no marketing budget, Steams continuous success hasn't been safer.
 

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Even games like AOD have profited from Steam. I doubt they'd have sold as many copies without Steam. I don't like all the collectible card shit, but Steam is way better for smaller devs than anything else out there.
 

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If I click through the steam recommendations thing I get like 75% shit that I could see a reasonable human being might think I'd be into. Obviously I actually care enough about like 5% of them to let the promo video load but it's not like I have to thumb through all the quasi- phone games to see what's on Steam.
 

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Well...

There's War for the Overworld of course, but... the campaign is, in my opinion, underwhelming. Heavily scripted, you need to follow a path and you can't deviate. None of that "here's your dungeon heart, here is the enemy's, do whatever you want just get them". Apparently, the game is geared toward skirmishes and MP, and since I don't care about MP I might be biased. There's a thread about it somewhere in the strategy forum.

There's KeeperRL, that I discovered yesterday when I was looking through the specials and thinking "I would like something like Dwarf Fortress, but NOT Dwarf Fortress" at the exact moment I saw it. It's on sale, and yet, 10€ for basically a DF mod with a graphics set is not my idea of a solid investment. There's a free version but it comes in ASCII I think, so you have to pay for what you can get with DF for free.

So if we are speaking about DK maybe not "clone" but spiritual successor, the best one, for me, hands down, is Evil Genius. The thing is, you probably knew about it already so...
 

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Can someone recommend me please what's the best Dungeon Keeper clone on Steam right now? I kinda lost track of them but I know there are some. Now that's an itch I desperately need to scratch again but I already played DK itself too much, time to take a look on the newer ones - if at least one of them is decent that is

Startopia, the more recent indie DK 'clones' are not worth playing IMO.
 

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Indeed. It may not have the Dungeon Keeper theme, opting instead for sci-fi, but the gameplay is extremely similar and satisfying with a very large dose of humour.
 

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Startopia is p. great. I never thought of it being like DK but I guess it is mechanically very similar if you look at it.
 

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People wanting to buy games and paying for them is ok, it's their money and we aren't anyone's nanny. I'd like to know how different the treatment is for indies and AAA companies. That's why I said Steam is only relevant for AAA companies; kids these days don't see other alternatives and as I've said before some of them are so brainwashed that they refuse to consider GOG as a viable option because DRM free is the same than piracy. In recent weeks, there has been controversy about the closing of MMOs and servers (like that WoW thing) but the fact that all these games rely on online servers to be played is something really negative. In fact, iirc a library forced companies to crack their games so they could be played in offline mode, which is good.
Speaking of brainwashed kids:
Gotta love these wannabe couch analytics talking about how steam going down the shitter when its userbase keeps growing regardless of the quality of most releases.
If anything, the amount of releases hurts only indies with no marketing budget, Steams continuous success hasn't been safer.
Hurr dey sells a lot so dey iz gud. Toyotas are better than Ferraris and [LATEST_COMICBOOK_MOVIE] is better than Citizen Kane because more brainless dolts watched it. r00fles!

Millennials man. The ones who aren't mindless leftist SJW drones are mindless corporate marketing "muh analytics" or "muh piracy" shills.
 

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Hoaxmetal

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But if a developer spends years working on a game and it sells worse than RPGMaker garbage, then you can bet he/she is not happy at all.
Maybe the poor dindu indie developer should have spent more time marketing his game? Also a game is entitled to have buyers? :lol:
 

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He probably should have. It is easy to notice that it is effort put in marketing that sells games, not effort put in actually making them. Tough luck.

Because evryone knows we need more marketing and less quality in the video game industry.
 

pippin

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Indies look at AAA companies and try to imitate them. They truly think their games will be the next big thing for everyone but they don't realize most AAA companies are more than 10 years old and have an established fanbase and keep getting more and more people to buy their games because "it's the thing everyone's doing".

It's beyond evident Steam gets paid to feature games on the store front, and I wouldn't be extremely surprised if somehow we discover there's a small option to keep your game a a certain place in the top selling list. At least there must be a way to control which games appear on the suggestion parts or stuff like that.
 

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It's beyond evident Steam gets paid to feature games on the store front, and I wouldn't be extremely surprised if somehow we discover there's a small option to keep your game a a certain place in the top selling list. At least there must be a way to control which games appear on the suggestion parts or stuff like that.

That doesn't explain why Indie shit is a lot more prominent on the featured sectionthough, I'm sure the AAAAAA+++ devs have more money to throw around than some 2 man basement operation.
 

pippin

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It's beyond evident Steam gets paid to feature games on the store front, and I wouldn't be extremely surprised if somehow we discover there's a small option to keep your game a a certain place in the top selling list. At least there must be a way to control which games appear on the suggestion parts or stuff like that.

That doesn't explain why Indie shit is a lot more prominent on the featured sectionthough, I'm sure the AAAAAA+++ devs have more money to throw around than some 2 man basement operation.

PR. If they didn't, it would rub indies the wrong way, especially when there's an actual equal treatment towards indies and AAA in places like GOG or even Humble Bundle, or that's what it seems at least. I mean, mrketing people must watch every video by every LPer in a daily basis....
But in the end Steam is just too big for its own good, however, we won't have another "crash" simply because people has other options when it comes to playing games.
 

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