The Surge - "sci-fi Dark Souls" from Lords of the Fallen devs

[cvv]

FromSoft lore isn't my cup of jizz but it's legit. I actually admire it, it's unique, well crafted and it does add a sense of mystery that complements other aspects of the game. But I'm not super hot about it, reading voraciously every desription, filling in the gaps and such. Plus it can be retardedly obtuse at places. BB lore is the pinnacle of FromSoft narration, a genuine masterpiece for those who enjoy this sort of thing.

Surge world isn't even worth talking about, it's just one of an endless sea of drab mediocrity, the "meh, good enough" approach of people who either can't produce a better result or don't care to. Compared to FromSoft it's like a hamburger to a serving of oysters with lemon juice, cayenne pepper and butter bread. I can hate oysters but I can't deny it's something special and delicate.

 

[ricolikesrice]

hey guys, i ve also watched 2 hours of some youtuber streaming the surge and am therefore already an expert on its lore, combat and level design - ask away if you have any question on just how shit compared to Dark Souls this game is and we can circlejerk together.

 

[cvv]

Hurrga durrga you've only seen the first half of The Force Awakens and you already know it's utter shit without watching it to the end, such arrogance, much presumption!

 

[anus_pounder]

Great game. No regrets in pre-ordering it. Alongside Ubisoft and Obsidian, looks like I have another dev whose games I'll preorder on sight.

 

[bataille]

So, I've played for 4 hours with a lot of breaks, almost finished the second area, created the first set of sentinel armour (scarab) and found the first 'greatsword' (which acts the exact same way as the greathammer except for the 'whoosh' sound).
I won't say anything about its aesthetics, it's a personal matter, I'll say, however, about the visual overload. The amount of details on the screen at any given time gave me the mother of all headaches and I found myself blocking out all the intricate shadows, lighting, super hi-res textures while exploring levels just not to faint. That alone makes me unsure if I can continue playing later.
On the more esoteric note, I didn't notice any kind of ambiance or atmosphere, it was pretty sterile. The first area was kind of cool, with someone's comments on the walls concerning the qualities of the spilt toxic waste and whatnot, the second one was an endless maze of corridors, elevators, boxes, turrets and railings.
Enemies were menacing at first as well, with erratic and somewhat unpredictable behaviour. A few hours later I was just zooming in on their weapons and adjusting my tactics accordingly (the way they act depends entirely on their weapon); they became just obstacles.

I don't want to be overly negative, but I just couldn't find anything to hold onto. Nothing really to talk about, no big picture. A slippery little game.

 

[felipepepe]

Dunno what people are smoking, but this is way worse than Lords of the Fallen.

The first 15 minutes of LotF had more story, customization options, equipment variety, interesting enemies, good level design, secrets and memorable bosses than anything I saw in 3 hours playing The Surge. Armor is basically useless, as there's almost no difference between light and heavy armor - you usually die in 2-3 hits anyway. The targeting & slicing thing is interesting at first, but the system behind it is entirely based on grinding. And all the optional challenges, detailed item lore and magical gems were removed.

All there's to see here is the unusual sci-fi setting and the targeting mechanic. Once the novelty wears off, you just have a bland Souls clone.

 

[Arnust]

I'm liking it. A lot. Unless it fucks up super bad later, I'd be worth it. Just did the second boss.

It's the Wasteland 2 situation. People are taking it as a sequel and judging it a ssuch, ignoring the changes to the formula and being just as good if not better at times.

 

[Sigourn]

Dark Souls has great combat and level design. Any action RPG would benefit from incorporating Dark Souls-type of combat. Even if you reduce the difficulty the game will still be more fun and challenging than 95% games out there.

 

[Alienman]

For you that have watched streams or played it, is there much body horror? I watched a review and intro looked interesting.

 

[Excidium II]

For you that have watched streams or played it, is there much body horror? I watched a review and intro looked interesting.

There's more like transformers horror. If you're expectin something like that movie VIRUS, there's not much if any of that.

 

[Alienman]

For you that have watched streams or played it, is there much body horror? I watched a review and intro looked interesting.

There's more like transformers horror. If you're expectin something like that movie VIRUS, there's not much if any of that.

Ah shame. I was actually thinking in those terms

 

[Excidium II]

Yeah it's a bit of waste. Would be cooler than fighting cranes and boston dynamic robots.

 

[Alienman]

Could have been some serious horror too:

Spoiler

 

[Excidium II]

Well if you were fighting cyborg undead it would be even more blatant DS copy.

 

[felipepepe]

Oh wow, turns out the game only has FIVE bosses!

Da fuck is this shit, Lords of the Fallen had nine, and that was already a downgrade from the 23 bosses in Dark Souls 1. How are people even defending this?

 

[Excidium II]

It's not very long.

 

[Lhynn]

Heard its Dark Souls with better combat and worse everything else, tho i dont see it.

 

[Excidium II]

lol better combat.

 

[felipepepe]

lol better combat.

 

[Excidium II]

The bossfights all look p. bad. They seem entirely designed just to be hard and not fun to fight. Terrible hitboxes too.

 

[Murk]

Been hearing complaints about bosses. Watching random streams, the animations look like a retarded orangutan is running/swinging around.

Also, bloom-lens-flare-whatever-it's-called.

edit: heh, last boss is some smelter-robot-butthole monster.

 

[Chamezero]

everyone loved the stray demon and bed of chaos from dark souls and the generic humanoid number 53616 boss fights from dark souls 2 so here is a game with all fights similar to those!!!

 

[Chamezero]

final boss: "leave us alone! FUCK YOU! You hear me!"

shit man this is some advanced mature stuff not like those kiddie racist japanese toys damn if only this game had ethiopian jews like other rpgcodex approved masterpieces what a shame

 

[PrettyDeadman]

everyone loved the stray demon and bed of chaos from dark souls and the generic humanoid number 53616 boss fights from dark souls 2 so here is a game with all fights similar to those!!!

It's true what souls have a lot of shitty bosses (99% of them are shit), but what do you expect from people who can't even do a proper mouse/keyboard support on pc?

 

[PrettyDeadman]

lol better combat.

It's is indeed a lot better. Dark Souls combat consists of walking backwards and pressing one button once (or spamming that R1 if you have a longsword). Animations looks shit, the combat themselves mechanics are shit. They improved it in Bloodborne, but later returned to that retarded formula in Dark Souls 3.

Surge to Dark Souls in terms of combat is what Bayonetta to Skyrim.