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The Unspoken Reality of VR

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Interesting video about VR Gaming.

Goes through some good games:
Beat Sabre
Super Hot
Stride
Until you Fall
 

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Interesting video about VR Gaming
Is it really though?

In the first part it mentions an article stating that there would be "affordable VR by 1994", then it brings up an Arcade machine for $71k that wasn't for consumers while skipping over the actually released "affordable VR" in 1995, the Forte VFX1 for $599 that actually came out with support for a bunch of PC games like Magic Carpet, Quake, Hexen, Descent, System Shock etc.: http://www.mindflux.com.au/products/iis/vfx1soft.html

The main problem is it was kinda shit with a 263x230 eye resolution and only sporting 256 colors. For movement it used a "Cyberpuck" and it required its own extension card and varied assortment of hardware, driver and config hackery to get working, not a "mainstream" kind of device:


Then it mentions the "Nintendo Virtual Boy", which aside from maybe the name and form factor has nothing to do with VR at all. It was a static Monochrome 2D viewer with a bit of a depth effect closer to an old-timey Stereoscope and is close to the "sticking a TV screen to your face" Meme. You were looking at classic 2D Jump&Run's through said and it didn't actually feature anything that makes out a VR HMD like 3D rendering or head tracking. There was actually a Virtual Boy Emulator for VR: https://github.com/braindx/vbjin-ovr

I think something similar also exists for the Quest:


Goes through some good games
I haven't watched most of the rest, but that list is not far off from mentioning "Guitar Hero" and "Dance Dance Revolution" as "good console games". I mean, I guess if you're into that kind of thing...
 
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Remember how people in the 80s said video games are a weird fad that's gonna be over soon?

Or people in the 90s said the same about the internet?

I don't even have a VR set and never played a single VR game, but I don't dismiss its future viability just because I'm not personally into it.
 

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I bought VR headset last month and had so much fun with vidya that i don't remember having in years. It's like a fresh start for me, because modern gaming brought me nothing but disappointment and disgust i even stopped enjoying games for a while. I can't really tell what will happen to VR maybe it will die off, but i really hope it will eventually become the norm. Even tho initial "wow effect" is gone it's gonna be hard for me to enjoy flatscreen games after this. Cuz you just can't get that level of immersion from them.

VR Porn is just meh, also paywalled beyond reason. Virt-a-mate on the other hand is pretty interesting and patreon mods for it are easy to pirate, but that shit needs a pc light years ahead of what i have right now to enjoy properly. And honestly anyone who buys VR for porn is hopeless lol.
 

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I bought VR headset last month and had so much fun with vidya that i don't remember having in years. It's like a fresh start for me, because modern gaming brought me nothing but disappointment and disgust i even stopped enjoying games for a while. I can't really tell what will happen to VR maybe it will die off, but i really hope it will eventually become the norm. Even tho initial "wow effect" is gone it's gonna be hard for me to enjoy flatscreen games after this. Cuz you just can't get that level of immersion from them.

VR Porn is just meh, also paywalled beyond reason. Virt-a-mate on the other hand is pretty interesting and patreon mods for it are easy to pirate, but that shit needs a pc light years ahead of what i have right now to enjoy properly. And honestly anyone who buys VR for porn is hopeless lol.
I thought VR was garbagio until I played Blade & Sorcery, that shit is eye opening and I suggest everyone to launch it, go into the arena and stab some eyes then tell me what you think of VR.
 

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I bought VR headset last month and had so much fun with vidya that i don't remember having in years. It's like a fresh start for me, because modern gaming brought me nothing but disappointment and disgust i even stopped enjoying games for a while. I can't really tell what will happen to VR maybe it will die off, but i really hope it will eventually become the norm. Even tho initial "wow effect" is gone it's gonna be hard for me to enjoy flatscreen games after this. Cuz you just can't get that level of immersion from them.

VR Porn is just meh, also paywalled beyond reason. Virt-a-mate on the other hand is pretty interesting and patreon mods for it are easy to pirate, but that shit needs a pc light years ahead of what i have right now to enjoy properly. And honestly anyone who buys VR for porn is hopeless lol.
I thought VR was garbagio until I played Blade & Sorcery, that shit is eye opening and I suggest everyone to launch it, go into the arena and stab some eyes then tell me what you think of VR.

Yeah B&S is a super awesome game. I just wish i had more space to play it lol. You need to move a lot in that game especially in fights like 1 vs 6. Dual wielding against a mob feels pretty much like this


But the real gems for me so far are HL2 VR, TWD Saints and Sinners and Into the Radius.
 

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the unspoken reality of VR:

It's made for porn
You have it backwards. It underperformed in the porn industry, hence why its failed mass adoption.
I'm no VR porn expert, but the technology is not yet there (read: affordable) to become a big success, I'm sure VR will replace traditional screens eventually.
 

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they bought into this:


all problems that Moore’s Law will solve.
:lol:but then

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Remember how people in the 80s said video games are a weird fad that's gonna be over soon?

Or people in the 90s said the same about the internet?

I don't even have a VR set and never played a single VR game, but I don't dismiss its future viability just because I'm not personally into it.

The difference is that VR is something that comes and goes every decade, there was a VR fad in the 80 and subsequently in the 90ies, short-lived at that, sure, but it got people hyped and then was soon forgotten.

Though maybe its a question of technology, there were e-reader fads before the rise of the kindle that promised much and weren't widely adopted, and then kindle became the e-reader killer app, so maybe VR needs another 10 or 20 years to gestate and come back
 

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In corpocracy megacorps also want to overspend similar to the F35 & metaverse became their choice eg. some droolsome boondoggle. None of this revival was ground-up,plus all the kickstarter stuff was regurgirated from 90's even their brainletized buzzwords.
 
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Remember how people in the 80s said video games are a weird fad that's gonna be over soon?

Or people in the 90s said the same about the internet?

I don't even have a VR set and never played a single VR game, but I don't dismiss its future viability just because I'm not personally into it.
Except VR has always been "the next big thing". For 30 years now. The issue is that they've never found a way to make it sustainable for an average consumer, or even give it a killer app that's not perfectly playable without the headset, other than porn. I have a friend who told me the only use he gives his headset is porn. Not everyone is into gaming either, as much as it would seem on the outside. Games and the internet have provided enough reasons for people to keep it around. The issue is that Silicon Valley techbros are just fucking retards and sociopaths who have no notion of real life outside their ponzi-like schemes about "the world integrated with tech". At some point you log out and turn off the noise.

microsoft just killed off its vr department
people actually bought into this fad
However, the fact that they dismantled the team does not mean the results are thrown into the garbage can. They have an use, and the team earned experience. If Google doesn't relocate them, someone else will take them, together with juicy corporate espionage details.
 

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PSVR2 releases February 22: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-vr2/

Quest 3 will release in Mid/Late 2023: https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/meta-confirms-quest-3-vr-headset-is-arriving-in-2023/

Apple will likely release their MR/VR HMD that they've been working on for years in late 2023, it'll be an expensive $3000 "Prosumer" HMD to test the waters: https://archive.is/PyKYX
Apple Inc.’s long-anticipated mixed-reality headset is an ambitious attempt to create a 3D version of the iPhone’s operating system, with eye- and hand-tracking systems that could set the technology apart from rival products.

The roughly $3,000 device, due later this year under the likely name of Reality Pro, will take a novel approach to virtual meetings and immersive video, aiming to shake up a VR industry currently dominated by Meta Platforms Inc. It’s a high-stakes gambit for Apple, which is expanding into its first major new product category since releasing a smartwatch in 2015, and the company needs to wow consumers.

They've not only been working on the HMD, but a separate VR OS they Codename "rOS" or "xrOS" with a whole set of Apps:
The device will also have productivity features, including the ability to serve as an external monitor for a Mac. With that feature, users will be able to see their Mac’s display in virtual reality but still control the computer with their trackpad or mouse and physical keyboard.

The headset’s operating system, internally called xrOS, will have many of the same features as an iPhone and iPad but in a 3D environment. That includes the Safari web browser, photos, mail, messages and the calendar app. And it will also have apps for the company’s services, such as the App Store to install third-party software, Apple TV+, music and podcasts. The company is working on health-tracking functions as well.

They're also working on a cheaper consumer version to release later, maybe next year:


Valve is still working away at whatever it is they're doing with "Deckard" likely to release later this or next year:
 
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VR is awesome and everyone who claims otherwise is a lazy, fat fuck who needs to get his fat ass up from his fat chair and play some fat VR games with a fat headset on his fat fucking face fat faced fatty.
Yeah, I'm talking to you
rusty_shackleford,

JarlFrank &​

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I remember you fat boys.
Or better yet, go out with some bros to a field, and play ball. That's a real physical activity and you don't need to buy some faggy technobabble BS to pretend you're having fun.
 

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VR is awesome and everyone who claims otherwise is a lazy, fat fuck who needs to get his fat ass up from his fat chair and play some fat VR games with a fat headset on his fat fucking face fat faced fatty.
Yeah, I'm talking to you
rusty_shackleford,

JarlFrank &​

Fedora Master

I remember you fat boys.
Or better yet, go out with some bros to a field, and play ball. That's a real physical activity and you don't need to buy some faggy technobabble BS to pretend you're having fun.
Heh, That sounds just a little bit unproductive. Harvest rice instead.
 

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