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Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

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Wow I didn't know Brian Fargo was gay.:codexisfor:
 

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Fargo's gone to extreme lengths to fund the shipping costs.
 

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I'm starting to see that inXile's partnership with Deep Silver is kind of.. gone wrong. inXile knows nothing about shipping, they seem to be in the dark in really.. most things that Deep Silver is in charge of.
 

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Man, I sure am glad I backed it during KS. They've just increased the price for Europe on GOG to $72.50, claiming it's the publisher's doing. :retarded:
This is crazy. I'd never buy this game at that price.
 
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Yes, this is getting just ridiculous. Giving spare copies in every kickstarter possible, addons for $20 and now what? 55 euro? Would not be supprised if their sales just flop hard on release.
 

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Man, I sure am glad I backed it during KS. They've just increased the price for Europe on GOG to $72.50, claiming it's the publisher's doing. :retarded:
This is crazy. I'd never buy this game at that price.

Yes, this is getting just ridiculous. Giving spare copies in every kickstarter possible, addons for $20 and now what? 55 euro? Would not be supprised if their sales just flop hard on release.

Three words: Digital Deluxe Edition.
 

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Man, I sure am glad I backed it during KS. They've just increased the price for Europe on GOG to $72.50, claiming it's the publisher's doing. :retarded:
This is crazy. I'd never buy this game at that price.

Yes, this is getting just ridiculous. Giving spare copies in every kickstarter possible, addons for $20 and now what? 55 euro? Would not be supprised if their sales just flop hard on release.

Three words: Digital Deluxe Edition.
This is too expensive even for that TBH.
 

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Three words: Digital Deluxe Edition.
Which would be a valid argument if there was a Digital Standard Edition for, say $40.

There will be when the game comes out.

And yeah, I agree that it should have been available for pre-order already. I've talked to Brother None about it, but it seems they want the $60 SKU be the only one for as long as possible.

But the point is it won't have any bearing on the game's sales on release
 
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The launch price is $40/€40.

Steam has made changes to its VAT policies over the recent period and it is now subtracted from the listed sale price. VAT goes from I believe a minimum of 19% to about 27% depending on the country. This means subtracting 30% off the USD price to get a EUR price as we did for Digital Deluxe for some time is no longer feasible. Price parity I personally try to aim for within the first world is about 10% variance, which the Euro pricing now slots into when you factor in taxes. Note the pricing for the regular edition we are launching at will match Divinity: Original Sin's across the board.

I don't know what "publisher's doing" means, we don't have a publisher (EDIT: oh I see, Judas said that, referring to us, which would be correct, we're the publisher and we set those prices)

And yeah, I agree that it should have been available for pre-order already. I've talked to Brother None about it, but it seems they want the $60 SKU be the only one for as long as possible.
No, we looked into it, it just wasn't practical/doable. I forget why but we discussed it with Steam and ended up not doing it (not entirely sure if it's even possible, I might misremember but it might not be, different tiers yes, but non-Early Access edition while SEAG is up, probably not). Offering a pre-order for the regular edition on one store but not another is obviously not feasible, so all places that currently have WL2 (Steam, GOG.com, Glyph and Humble Store) all have the digital deluxe, for now.
 
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Well, its currently listed at 26€ on cdkey sites for the european version, and 19€ if you use a russian vpn. At least you guys introduced region lock for russian version, something which D:OS failed to do, game was dirt cheap at release.
 

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Well, its currently listed at 26€ on cdkey sites for the european version, and 19€ if you use a russian vpn. At least you guys introduced region lock for russian version, something which D:OS failed to do, game was dirt cheap at release.
I really wish we didn't have to but yes, CD key reselling is so prevalent now you're given two options, screw Russians over by making it unaffordable for them and they'll all just pirate it, or region lock it. I hope we find a better solution for CD key reselling at some point, it's becoming a real problem as digital retail grows, and any answer to it will end up being consumer-unfriendly. I don't exactly blame people who use key resellers but in the long haul it's only going to come back to screw over consumers.
 

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Well, its currently listed at 26€ on cdkey sites for the european version, and 19€ if you use a russian vpn. At least you guys introduced region lock for russian version, something which D:OS failed to do, game was dirt cheap at release.
I really wish we didn't have to but yes, CD key reselling is so prevalent now you're given two options, screw Russians over by making it unaffordable for them and they'll all just pirate it, or region lock it. I hope we find a better solution for CD key reselling at some point, it's becoming a real problem as digital retail grows, and any answer to it will end up being consumer-unfriendly. I don't exactly blame people who use key resellers but in the long haul it's only going to come back to screw over consumers.

How is region locking bad for the Russians and consumer-unfriendly? Maybe I'm missing something but couldn't the Ruskis care less about the lock? It's not like majoity of them would wanna buy the dearer American or European versions anyway. And how is it unfriendly to the Westerners? The lock doesn't affect the prices of their versions. As I see it it's pretty much the only possible solution of the relative buying powers around the world.

Selling the games in Russia and other shitholes for 50 euro, now that would be consumer-unfriendly.
 

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How is region locking bad for the Russians and consumer-unfriendly? Maybe I'm missing something but couldn't the Ruskis care less about the lock? It's not like majoity of them would wanna buy the dearer American or European versions anyway. And how is it unfriendly to the Westerners? The lock doesn't affect the prices of their versions. As I see it it's pretty much the only possible solution of the relative buying powers around the world.
It's not super-unfriendly (and definitely better than the alternative), the main group it hits are key re-sellers and people buying from that (which I wouldn't advise, when Steam spots them they deactive the keys and they've been getting more aggressive about that). Still it is a bit annoying that when you move or travel a lot region lock restricts you. We're willing to help legitimate customers who run into that problem though.
 

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Well, its currently listed at 26€ on cdkey sites for the european version, and 19€ if you use a russian vpn. At least you guys introduced region lock for russian version, something which D:OS failed to do, game was dirt cheap at release.
I really wish we didn't have to but yes, CD key reselling is so prevalent now you're given two options, screw Russians over by making it unaffordable for them and they'll all just pirate it, or region lock it. I hope we find a better solution for CD key reselling at some point, it's becoming a real problem as digital retail grows, and any answer to it will end up being consumer-unfriendly. I don't exactly blame people who use key resellers but in the long haul it's only going to come back to screw over consumers.

How is region locking bad for the Russians and consumer-unfriendly? Maybe I'm missing something but couldn't the Ruskis care less about the lock? It's not like majoity of them would wanna buy the dearer American or European versions anyway. And how is it unfriendly to the Westerners? The lock doesn't affect the prices of their versions. As I see it it's pretty much the only possible solution of the relative buying powers around the world.

Selling the games in Russia and other shitholes for 50 euro, now that would be consumer-unfriendly.
But everybody forgets that there are countries in the european union, which are on the level of Russia economically, and financially, yet we have to buy games on British prices. So fuck region lock, I would buy the cheap Russian game (if I wouldn't have pledged of course).
 

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But everybody forgets that there are countries in the european union, which are on the level of Russia economically, and financially, yet we have to buy games on British prices. So fuck region lock, I would buy the cheap Russian game (if I wouldn't have pledged of course).

Exactly this. The buying power in, say, Slovakia or Poland is a bit higher but it's not like the gamers in those countries drive Phantoms and dine at Ramsay's. 50 euro for a German nerd is significantly lesser problem than for a potato nerd.
 

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