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The Witcher series APPRECIATION thread

BruceVC

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I'd be bitter in his position too. Sapkowski is the equivalent of a 16th century American native who sold his land to foreigners for a few glass beads, only for it to later turn out the land was worth a fortune because of its strategic value to global powers. After giving up the videogame rights for a minor upfront fee, the videogame industry got bigger than just about every established entertainment medium combined in a very short time. Sapkowski and CD Projekt worked out a new deal in 2019/20 though, so he's finally seeing some of that sweet Witcher 3 money.
He doesnt seem to be a fan of gaming in general but as you mentioned Im sure he doesnt mind that sweet cash from the Witcher royalties :cool:

" I do not play computer games as they are far beyond my sphere of interest," he remarked.

"I've never played any computer games, be it fantasy or others. Sometimes I read through dedicated gaming magazines or watch television programmes. Graphics and technology, sometimes, I admire. I cannot say anything about the plots, though. Apart from the fact that some types of games seem to lack any story whatsoever. Those seem to be all about the hack and slash."
 

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I completed W2 after about 40 hours

It was the expected fantastic RPG experience and it gets a well deserved 78/100 on the highly popular " BruceVC game rating system "

The dragon fight was fun, it was easier than the first Letho fight and I succeed after about 15 tries

I also let Letho live and this was another easy decision. There was no way I was going to kill a fellow Witcher when our numbers are so few and he was an historical friend and helped Yennefer. I felt bad enough when Auckes and Serrit were killed and the thought of killing any other Witcher is anathema to me

I sided with Roche and let him kill Henselt, I found Henselt to be insufferably arrogant and he raped Ves and killed Roches men so it seemed justice to let Roche have him

Now its W3 time

I am going take my time researching mods and what I decide to use

Arthandas, or anyone else , any mods you recommend. You mentioned W3EE for combat?
 
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Sapkowski is the equivalent of a 16th century American native who sold his land to foreigners for a few glass beads, only for it to later turn out the land was worth a fortune because of its strategic value to global powers.
Except in Sapkowski's case he was so retarded he literally chose the glass beads even when he was offered a percentage of all generated profit initially. He didn't have enough faith in his own IP to recognize the gold mine it was even in the hands of the white game devils. He expected the first game to flop and wanted the lump sum up front.
 

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Sapkowski is the equivalent of a 16th century American native who sold his land to foreigners for a few glass beads, only for it to later turn out the land was worth a fortune because of its strategic value to global powers.
Except in Sapkowski's case he was so retarded he literally chose the glass beads even when he was offered a percentage of all generated profit initially. He didn't have enough faith in his own IP to recognize the gold mine it was even in the hands of the white game devils. He expected the first game to flop and wanted the lump sum up front.
Thats interesting, so he created his own problem around the revenue due to lack of faith
 

Arthandas

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He didn't have enough faith in his own IP
It wasn't about his own IP, he just didn't have any faith in a video game adaptation, because he thinks video games are for retards (can't blame him judging from half the posts on the Codex)...

@Arthandas, or anyone else , any mods you recommend. You mentioned W3EE for combat?
W3EE Redux is for everything :) It touches on almost all gameplay aspects of the game and will be generally incompatible with any other mods unless they have a compatibility patch (like Brothers in Arms).
Anyway, you won't need too many mods if you go with W3EE. Basically:
* Brothers in Arms + W3EE Redux - Brothers In Arms Compatibility Patch
* The Witcher 3 HD Reworked Project NextGen Edition + Brothers In Arms - HD Reworked Project Compatible Patch
* for Gwent I recommend Gwent Improvements - Ultima + Gwent Improvements Ultima - Next Gen Patch
* Characters Reworked Project
* Faster Ray Tracing Ultra Performance RT if you're using ray tracing
* Quest Tweaks, Boat Races and DLC - Events by MerseyRockoff
* Hoods
* Complete Animations Redux for Next Gen
* other minor mods like Action Log or Serif of Rivia

If you're not going with W3EE then you need to check all the next gen mods by Mersey and wghost81.
For combat I recommend those three together:
* More Reasonable Damage
* Balanced Damage and Scaling
* Path Of The Tough

MRD will have some conflicts with PotT, but I talked with the author and there should be a compatibility patch tomorrow.

You'll also probably want:
* No Duplicate Relics
* Sort Everything
* All Quest Objectives On Map
 

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I completed W2 after about 40 hours

It was the expected fantastic RPG experience and it gets a well deserved 78/100 on the highly popular " BruceVC game rating system "

The dragon fight was fun, it was easier than the first Letho fight and I succeed after about 15 tries

I also let Letho live and this was another easy decision. There was no way I was going to kill a fellow Witcher when our numbers are so few and he was an historical friend and helped Yennefer. I felt bad enough when Auckes and Serrit were killed and the thought of killing any other Witcher is anathema to me

I sided with Roche and let him kill Henselt, I found Henselt to be insufferably arrogant and he raped Ves and killed Roches men so it seemed justice to let Roche have him

Now its W3 time

I am going take my time researching mods and what I decide to use

Arthandas, or anyone else , any mods you recommend. You mentioned W3EE for combat?
I'd HIGHLY recommend replaying Witcher 2 and siding with Iorveth before you move on to Witcher 3 chap, you've only really seen half the story, and there are some pretty vital reveals which you haven't seen yet.

Reload a save from the end of the first chapter before the "bro choice" and replay, or even restart on Dark Mode if you don't mind playing the early game again.
 
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It wasn't about his own IP, he just didn't have any faith in a video game adaptation, because he thinks video games are for retards (can't blame him judging from half the posts on the Codex)...
You can read it that way, and it's true to a point but it's not as if videogames were some new format in the mid 2000s. Plenty of financial success stories out by then so at least in part, he lacked faith in his own IP to carry the game to some form of financial success, even if he was 100% correct and it turned out to be shit. He strikes me as a guy that's just really terrible at business.
 
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he lacked faith in his own IP
He didn't, he has a massive ego and he loves his IP. He always treated video games as a lesser form of entertainment.
"My IP isn't strong enough to propel this lesser form of entertainment to success. I will never see any real money from sales because no one will buy it."

Whether he'd say it aloud or not, that's what he believed.
 

Arthandas

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More like, "This bunch of amateurs wants to make a stupid video game. There's no chance it will sell, because video games are for little kids. No one could be seriously interested in shit like that so they'd better pay beforehand". Then it sells millions and Sapkowski makes a pikachu face.

If you think he doesn't worship his own writing you know nothing about him.
 
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If you think he doesn't worship his own writing you know nothing about him.
No, not not even close to what I said. Worship, adoration, love - pick any synonym you like, do not equate to faith. I can love something I made, I can think it's the greatest thing ever but that doesn't mean I believe it will succeed or propel a lesser form of media to success despite itself. As I said, he lacked faith in his own material's strength to overcome the detriments he imagined of videogames. The detriments of videogames were stronger in his mind than his writing.
 

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he lacked faith in his own IP
He didn't, he has a massive ego and he loves his IP. He always treated video games as a lesser form of entertainment.
"My IP isn't strong enough to propel this lesser form of entertainment to success. I will never see any real money from sales because no one will buy it."

Whether he'd say it aloud or not, that's what he believed.
You clearly had no interactions with the man. He holds videogames in unbelievable contempt. He was always condescending to fans on the occasions he appeared on conventions. It is not a lack of faith in his work. It is contempt.
 

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he lacked faith in his own IP
He didn't, he has a massive ego and he loves his IP. He always treated video games as a lesser form of entertainment.
"My IP isn't strong enough to propel this lesser form of entertainment to success. I will never see any real money from sales because no one will buy it."

Whether he'd say it aloud or not, that's what he believed.
You clearly had no interactions with the man. He holds videogames in unbelievable contempt. He was always condescending to fans on the occasions he appeared on conventions. It is not a lack of faith in his work. It is contempt.
I'm having this debate with someone else on another forum, he is Polish and says the Eurogamer interview gets lost in translation and Sapkowski views on the games is more positive than I am suggesting

Its not a big deal to me but Im interested in what he really thinks about the games, do you have any link that support what you saying in this post about his contempt for the games and gamers in general?

Because then I want to use them in this other forum debate
 
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It is not a lack of faith in his work. It is contempt.
It's both, and I don't know how you people are not understanding this. By necessity weighing one deal against the other requires you to assess which is more likely to be the higher pay out. Sapkowski decided in his delusional mind that his work was not strong enough to overcome "stupid videogame", that the stories he wrote were less moving than the feeling of "stupid videogame". If he had faith in his work, real faith, he'd have taken the "gamble" (not a gamble at all, he was just retarded) that his IP was strong enough to carry the product to more financial success than the pittance he took from CDPR, regardless of medium and his irrational feelings toward it.
 

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You still don't get it. Imagine that you are so high on your own farts that you actually insult people who want your autograph on your book, and completely dismiss video games as a medium. You would not approach the matter rationally.
 

Gerrard

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He didn't have enough faith in his own IP
It wasn't about his own IP, he just didn't have any faith in a video game adaptation, because he thinks video games are for retards (can't blame him judging from half the posts on the Codex)...
Except in Sapkowski's case he was so retarded he literally chose the glass beads even when he was offered a percentage of all generated profit initially. He didn't have enough faith in his own IP to recognize the gold mine it was even in the hands of the white game devils. He expected the first game to flop and wanted the lump sum up front.
You seem to be missing some critical information (or a brain), when CDP guys approached him it was already after he sold the rights to a game once and the game never materialized. Why would he think differently about another band of nobodies who have never made a game before?
 
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You seem to be missing some critical information (or a brain), when CDP guys approached him it was already after he sold the rights to a game once and the game never materialized. Why would he think differently about another band of nobodies who have never made a game before?
Oh I dunno, maybe because one company isn't the same as another retard.
 

Lyric Suite

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and completely dismiss video games as a medium.

Why wouldn't you?
Um, maybe because global revenue generated by the gaming industry is greater than music and movie industries combined? Like, what the fuck are you smoking?

It's still an inferior medium from an artistic point of view, and i got the impression this is what's making Sapkowski so salty, the fact the games have displaced his own works.

I mean on the version of the books i'm reading all the art is from the games which definitely feels kinda of degrading.
 

Arthandas

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It's still an inferior medium from an artistic point of view, and i got the impression this is what's making Sapkowski so salty, the fact the games have displaced his own works.
It's not an inferior medium, it's actually superior in every single way. Video games not only can do everything movie and music industries do, but they also make it interactive, which is a big step up.
I mean on the version of the books i'm reading all the art is from the games which definitely feels kinda of degrading.
Yeah, I hate those covers. You should totally try to grab his autograph on them just to piss him off. Don't forget to mention they're the best video game books you've ever read to compliment him and ask whether he'll also write a book about Ciri in W4 xD
 

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It's not an inferior medium, it's actually superior in every single way. Video games not only can do everything movie and music industries do, but they also make it interactive, which is a big step up.

Lmao, imagine actually believing this retardation.

Vydia is kiddie shit bro. It's never gonna be anything else.
 
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These are what I have, but if you live in Poland buy the ones with TW2 cover art.
 

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"My IP isn't strong enough to propel this lesser form of entertainment to success. I will never see any real money from sales because no one will buy it."

Whether he'd say it aloud or not, that's what he believed.
He thinks of himself as great author, which is part of the reason why he made so many arrogant comments when asked about the videogame adaptations. He is simply one of the people who still view(ed) games as children's toys, not something akin to movies or books: an industry capable of bringing in a large profits (if you manage to land it). He straight up admited as much:

“I was stupid enough to sell them rights [to all of my novels],” he told Eurogamer. “They offered me a percentage of their profits. I said, ‘No, there will be no profit at all — give me all my money right now! The whole amount.’ It was stupid. I was stupid enough to leave everything in their hands because I didn’t believe in their success. But who could foresee their success? I couldn’t.”
There was an attempt at making a videogame adaptation of his works in the past and it failed. That's why he thought the same will happen here as well and decided to take the lump sum that was offered back then. And he also thought videogames are for idiots: "I know a few people who played the games, but not many. I rather spend time with intelligent people". To make it even funnier, he made that comment AFTER The Witcher series became a big hit.
 

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