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Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread
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DraQ
Arcane
Doubt it - 2001 game.
That freeze thing where it stutters like crazy, I did it by hitting escape to bring up main menu then alt tab again.
Lonely Vazdru
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"Alt" does the trick for me.
So, is anyone else aggravated that Axe is essentially a waste of time as a weapon class?
Thought it would have been, could have been so much greater. But it really sucks. No great 1 handed axes save for Beast Slayer and Plague Axe.
Am I missing something about Axes? Do they do super damage when berserking or have a greater chance for criticals that makes up for their general rule of suck?
Thought it would have been, could have been so much greater. But it really sucks. No great 1 handed axes save for Beast Slayer and Plague Axe.
Am I missing something about Axes? Do they do super damage when berserking or have a greater chance for criticals that makes up for their general rule of suck?
No, unfortunately there's really no reason to use them. The best ones are pretty good but so rare you'll never see them.
Rpgsaurus Rex
Guest
What makes me wonder is why there are so many mods that add a lot of quests, locations, monsters, weapons...
But no good, solid *balancing* mods that build on the strengths of the original Wiz8 and "fill the gaps" (Wiz8 still feels really unfinished in many "vanilla" areas, like a game 60% to its completion), instead of introducing stuff that hurts the eye and makes the aesthete inside us wanna crawl in the corner and cry (Dodd's, Reforged, I'm looking at you)?
It's not even a question of time & effort because the "epic mods" clearly took many years, and perhaps even a decade or so to come from conception to full release.
But no good, solid *balancing* mods that build on the strengths of the original Wiz8 and "fill the gaps" (Wiz8 still feels really unfinished in many "vanilla" areas, like a game 60% to its completion), instead of introducing stuff that hurts the eye and makes the aesthete inside us wanna crawl in the corner and cry (Dodd's, Reforged, I'm looking at you)?
It's not even a question of time & effort because the "epic mods" clearly took many years, and perhaps even a decade or so to come from conception to full release.
DraQ
Arcane
Yes.
No.
They should have, at the very least, tripled damage on Axe of Many Runes and made Beastslayer offhand-capable to make axes worthwhile.
Woodsman axe is nice to have at the beginning, though.
Ripper ain't bad either.
Yeah, repairing axes, adding some upper end non-class daggers, repairing Lords (constant effect remove curse for lords), maybe adding 6 semi-bishop hybrid casters with unique characteristics, maybe some interesting elite classes aside from Ninja and Bishop, tweaking level scaling and encounter frequency - there is a lot of stuff to be fixed in vanilla.
hoverdog
dog that is hovering, Wastelands Interactive
Is it at all possible to add more classes? I doubt it really.
Rpgsaurus Rex
Guest
Just a basic rebalancing would be good enough. There's even a pretty powerful editor for Wiz8 to accomodate for almost anything a diehard fan would wish for, in a balance mod, except for radical changes like new classes.
But there isn't a single mod like this. It's just lolmods adding more crazy imbalanced stuff, or "epic" ones focused on their own "epic story" with endless fetch quests + levels and monster models/textures that make you want to gouge your eyes out. Dodd's was exciting for a while, though - if one could live with "Prosper funhouse" levels, the new "super-lategame Wizardry" was actually fun, while you were exploring its possibiities (e.g. instakill spells actually become useful vs monsters with a million HP and 100+ resists to spells, since a Powercast proc might surpass those resists and save vs. the danger of instakill attacks from the monster itself).
But there isn't a single mod like this. It's just lolmods adding more crazy imbalanced stuff, or "epic" ones focused on their own "epic story" with endless fetch quests + levels and monster models/textures that make you want to gouge your eyes out. Dodd's was exciting for a while, though - if one could live with "Prosper funhouse" levels, the new "super-lategame Wizardry" was actually fun, while you were exploring its possibiities (e.g. instakill spells actually become useful vs monsters with a million HP and 100+ resists to spells, since a Powercast proc might surpass those resists and save vs. the danger of instakill attacks from the monster itself).
Speaking of instant kills, is there another game that pulls off an instant death ability as awesomely as Wizardry 8? It's so rare at first and only after really high levels does it begin to occur even slightly frequently. But when it does it's hugely rewarding (unless the monster had 1 hit point). And it seems no enemy, including high level bosses are immune. Such a badass feeling when you see:
INSTANT KILL!!!
INSTANT KILL!!!
They're great for alot of enemies, such as Juggernaut, Modais, etc which have high DR and sick HP's.
Twinkle
Liturgist
In b4 thread shuffling 
Rpgsaurus Rex
Guest
Demise: Ascension has very satisfying killing messages, stuff like "You Beheaded!/Burned!/Electrocuted! X", and you really *feel* the massive damage from spells vs. big groups. Graphically it's not too behind Wiz8, either, although its interface is pretty stone-age.
DraQ
Arcane
Wizardry 8 is 2001 and therefore New Shit.
Fuck, I wish I could install it.
I'd use that fucking editor to re-work some of the weapons, especially the axes.
I'd use that fucking editor to re-work some of the weapons, especially the axes.
DraQ
Arcane
Can't you really try getting the installed files from someone?
Also, one more thing I would change is making racial strengths more dramatic in terms of stats (say, 70ish rather than 50ish) - could make playing suboptimal race/class combos more interesting by skimping distributable stat points as usual, but giving large and difficult to ignore bonuses in stats that aren't profession related.
Also, one more thing I would change is making racial strengths more dramatic in terms of stats (say, 70ish rather than 50ish) - could make playing suboptimal race/class combos more interesting by skimping distributable stat points as usual, but giving large and difficult to ignore bonuses in stats that aren't profession related.
Well Lizardmen have a racial stat like that already. 70 in Vitality is hard to ignore.
DraQ
Arcane
Yeah, but it could be more commonplace.
True. But the problem becomes what stats to minimize, and what weaknesses to give them.
Lizardmen are pretty weak mentally. Add to that the fact that they take a severe penalty to defense in divine and mental magics, goddamn if the party isn't protected can they be made insane or turncoated big time and hurt everyone.
Lizardmen are pretty weak mentally. Add to that the fact that they take a severe penalty to defense in divine and mental magics, goddamn if the party isn't protected can they be made insane or turncoated big time and hurt everyone.
Hobo Elf
Arcane
One thing about character development that I never really figured out is that is it a good idea to get one main stat to max ASAP for the bonus perk or is it better to develop all important stats equally and get the perks later? I've tried both approaches and didn't notice much of a deviation in my overall performance.
DraQ
Arcane
Yeah, but the thing is that most racial strengths are not higher than class requirements. Making the difference more in favour of racial strengths would make "alternative", atypical builds more interesting due to their non-class strengths being more difficult to emulate with extra points more traditional race/class combos get.
Well, since the perk can be developed by merely using it, going for the perk ASAP seems like the best strategy as long as you can prioritize perks. You can always mix and match on party level instead.
Si, I'd say the same.
However, experimenting with different character builds, levelup strategies and group combinations is always a nice thing and in the end, you can very well play through the game with your individual character builds and group compositions without caring so much about powergaming and min-maxing.
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Just extract all CD contents somewhere in your HD, preserving original folder paths. Grab the patch, wizfast, a no-cd crack and voilà.
Lonely Vazdru
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Definitely, I'm currently playing iron man for the first time, yet I made a party totally based on my whimsical inspiration of the moment, no min-maxing involved. And it works just fine. My fairie monk frontliner stands his ground pretty well for instance. As for going to 100 a.s.a.p. I did it for some characters, like my spellcasters and not for others like monk, ranger or walkyrie and both work fine.
Wizardry 8 is the shit. Sir-Tech forever inclined the world of blobers.
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