Decline Thiaf Pre-Release Thread

[Infinitron]

I didn't enjoy DX: HR, so I doubt I'll enjoy this. Still, it might be lulzy to see how exactly they are going to "update" the series.

Also I've still no idea why AAA devs continue to introduce all these minigames in their games; I find it hard to believe there really are enough people who enjoy minigames out there to create such a demand for them.

Technically even Thief locks were simple minigames, since you had to switch lockpicks sometimes.

I'm not opposed to very quick and simplistic minigames whose only purpose is to occupy the player's concentration, leaving him open to being surprised and ambushed. For example, the hacking minigame in Bioshock 2.

 

[Captain Shrek]

I didn't enjoy DX: HR, so I doubt I'll enjoy this. Still, it might be lulzy to see how exactly they are going to "update" the series.

Also I've still no idea why AAA devs continue to introduce all these minigames in their games; I find it hard to believe there really are enough people who enjoy minigames out there to create such a demand for them.

Technically even Thief locks were very simplistic minigames, since you had to switch lockpicks.

I'm not opposed to very simplistic minigames whose only purpose is to occupy the player's concentration, leaving him open to being surprised and ambushed. For example, the hacking minigame in Bioshock 2.

 

[Turisas]

UNVEILED FOR PC AND NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES BY EIDOS-MONTRÉAL

Critically-Acclaimed Studio Returns with a New Vision

LONDON (5th March 2013) – Eidos-Montréal®, a part of Square Enix Europe and the award winning studio behind the critically acclaimed Deus Ex: Human Revolution®, today unveiled THIEF™ for PC, PlayStation®4, and other next generation consoles. THIEF is a reinvention of a franchise that helped define an entire genre of games.

Time has moved on. Power has shifted. New greed replaces the old.

But to remain free in The City of chains – that is still the greatest prize.

First I stole to survive… then I survived to steal.

I am one man; I hear your secrets, see your hidden truths.

I am the shadows, the dark and deadly, the velvet night. You will not see me coming.

I am Garrett….What’s yours is mine.

There is a rising tide of fear in The City. Hatred saturates every stone and whilst the rich prosper, the less fortunate face misery and repression. Ravaged with sickness and famine, they wait for something to change.

Into this shadowy world steps Garrett, THE master thief in a first-person adventure featuring intelligent design that allows players to take full control, with freedom to choose their path through the game’s levels and how they approach and overcome each challenge.

"We’re handling a precious gemstone with THIEF. Fans remember the original games very fondly and we want to preserve that essence - which we have excellent experience of doing at Eidos-Montréal - whilst also introducing THIEF to a brand new, next-generation, audience,” said Stephane D’Astous, General Manager, Eidos-Montréal. “Our goal is to deliver the fantasy of being Garrett, THE master thief, and we’re building this game around that core experience.”

Exclusive coverage and developer interviews can be found in Game Informer’s April issue. Additionally, visit GameInformer.com/thief throughout the month for on-going coverage.

THIEF will be available in 2014 for PC and PlayStation®4. It is also planned for other next-generation consoles.

 

[Cassidy]

Here we have it gents. Cover shooter and dumb stealth is solid games!

Depending on whom you ask...

It's obvious a lot of active users here like shit games and popamole action.

 

[Infinitron]

Captain Shrek
What's so shocking? These are minigames that aren't meant to be a challenge, or a major time sink. Their only purpose is to distract you, to simulate the feeling of being occupied with something for a short while. That's what Thief's lockpicks did and that's what BS2's hacking did.

Compare with BS1's stupid Pipe Dream hacking.

 

[Crooked Bee]

I didn't enjoy DX: HR, so I doubt I'll enjoy this. Still, it might be lulzy to see how exactly they are going to "update" the series.

Also I've still no idea why AAA devs continue to introduce all these minigames in their games; I find it hard to believe there really are enough people who enjoy minigames out there to create such a demand for them.

Technically even Thief locks were simple minigames, since you had to switch lockpicks sometimes.

I'm not opposed to very quick and simplistic minigames whose only purpose is to occupy the player's concentration, leaving him open to being surprised and ambushed. For example, the hacking minigame in Bioshock 2.

I agree, I guess - I was just wondering about the current popularity of minigames in general, really.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Captain Shrek
What's so shocking? These are minigames that aren't meant to be a challenge, or a major time sink. Their only purpose is to distract you, to simulate the feeling of being occupied with something for a short while. That's what Thief's lockpicks did and that's what BS2's hacking did.

Compare with BS1's stupid Pipe Dream hacking.

Are you serious? First answer me this before I start ripping.

 

[Cassidy]

All minigames are very cheap timesinks to inflate the time needed to beat a game, like spawning enemies seemingly nonstop in a scripted sequence until the checkpoint for another round of popping moles is reached. Ironically considering all the Doritos newspeak, minigames are very immersion-breaking.

Lockpicking in Thief 1 and 2 is as much of a "minigame" as the wait for a BFG to fire in Doom, and it is not something completely separated from the core gameplay, but instead an element in it.

 

[Multidirectional]

It means they would be forced to at least acknowledge if not implement established lore and game mechanics.

With a reboot they can just say "lol whatever, it's a reboot" and do whatever the fuck they want.

Spoiler

I still expect them to make a solid game as I enjoyed HR, but I'm sure it's going to be dumbed down and piss off off Thief fans.

Bro, it's quite obvious they would be doing whatever the fuck they want either way. The fact that it won't be the same (or as good) as original games is not even a possibility, it's a fucking certainty. I don't even need any details to emerge to know that. And yes it's possible that it will still be enjoyable enough game, like DXHR was, but expecting the same kind of game from different makers and after all this time has passed would be dumb, digit "4" being placed in a title wouldn't change a thing.

Also, I think I've had enough of this Shrek moron too, welcome to ignore.

 

[Infinitron]

Captain Shrek
What's so shocking? These are minigames that aren't meant to be a challenge, or a major time sink. Their only purpose is to distract you, to simulate the feeling of being occupied with something for a short while. That's what Thief's lockpicks did and that's what BS2's hacking did.

Compare with BS1's stupid Pipe Dream hacking.

Are you serious? First answer me this before I start ripping.

I am, but I'm not about to argue with your ripping, so you might not want to bother.

 

[Jaesun]

I liked Bioshock's mini game. (The connect the tubes one).

 

[Captain Shrek]

I liked Bioshock's mini game. (The connect the tubes one).

It is not about liking or disliking. It is whether they actually add anything meaning full to the experience of gaming. Adventure games need mini games because that is their idea of gameplay. A Shooter/Action/Stealth game should have its own gameplay sufficiently well done. Despite that you still may want to add mini games just for the heck of it. But then if they are pointless things that become a chore (hacking minigames, lockpicking minigames in AP) then they harm the experience.

 

[Infinitron]

Lockpicking in Thief 1 and 2 is as much of a "minigame" as the wait for a BFG to fire in Doom, and it is not something completely separated from the core gameplay, but instead an element in it.

I generally agree, but my intention was to point out that it was not as simple as "select lockpick, hold mouse button, wait for door to unlock". You needed to concentrate on what you were doing throughout.

 

[Infinitron]

Game Informer quotes:

Garrett has been away from his hometown for a long time. When he finally returns to the industrial complex known as The City, he discovers a city of melting prosperity. The region has come under rule of an iron-fisted Baron, who crushes his citizens under the boot of a militarized watch. Propoganda posters speak of prosperity, but this good fortune comes only to the elite. Garrett isn't interested in being the City's hero, but he'll use the political chaos as an opportunity to get rich.

Eidos was vague about how faithful it would remain to Thief's original lore, but did say that it would tone down many of the series' magical elements. Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles. However, Thief's concept art clearly shows that one of Garrett's eyes is a different color than the other, so it's possible that Eidos considers at least part of Garrett's original history as canon.

In previous Thief games, Garrett used a rope arrow to reach high points. Now he has the Claw, a throwable grapple that attaches to certain points in the environment and allows Garrett to get out of sight quickly.

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room. As you upgrade your Focus you will get a bigger radius of things to see. We have a fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in. Every drawer in the room is accessible, but you use your Thief skills like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

 

[mindx2]

UNVEILED FOR PC AND NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES BY EIDOS-MONTRÉAL

Critically-Acclaimed Studio Returns with a New Vision

LONDON (5th March 2013) – Eidos-Montréal®, a part of Square Enix Europe and the award winning studio behind the critically acclaimed Deus Ex: Human Revolution®, today unveiled THIEF™ for PC, PlayStation®4, and other next generation consoles. THIEF is a reinvention of a franchise that helped define an entire genre of games.

Time has moved on. Power has shifted. New greed replaces the old.

But to remain free in The City of chains – that is still the greatest prize.

First I stole to survive… then I survived to steal.

I am one man; I hear your secrets, see your hidden truths.

I am the shadows, the dark and deadly, the velvet night. You will not see me coming.

I am Garrett….What’s yours is mine.

There is a rising tide of fear in The City. Hatred saturates every stone and whilst the rich prosper, the less fortunate face misery and repression. Ravaged with sickness and famine, they wait for something to change.

Into this shadowy world steps Garrett, THE master thief in a first-person adventure featuring intelligent design that allows players to take full control, with freedom to choose their path through the game’s levels and how they approach and overcome each challenge.

"We’re handling a precious gemstone with THIEF. Fans remember the original games very fondly and we want to preserve that essence - which we have excellent experience of doing at Eidos-Montréal - whilst also introducing THIEF to a brand new, next-generation, audience,” said Stephane D’Astous, General Manager, Eidos-Montréal. “Our goal is to deliver the fantasy of being Garrett, THE master thief, and we’re building this game around that core experience.”

Exclusive coverage and developer interviews can be found in Game Informer’s April issue. Additionally, visit GameInformer.com/thief throughout the month for on-going coverage.

THIEF will be available in 2014 for PC and PlayStation®4. It is also planned for other next-generation consoles.

Game Informer quotes:

Garrett has been away from his hometown for a long time. When he finally returns to the industrial complex known as The City, he discovers a city of melting prosperity. The region has come under rule of an iron-fisted Baron, who crushes his citizens under the boot of a militarized watch. Propoganda posters speak of prosperity, but this good fortune comes only to the elite. Garrett isn't interested in being the City's hero, but he'll use the political chaos as an opportunity to get rich.

Eidos was vague about how faithful it would remain to Thief's original lore, but did say that it would tone down many of the series' magical elements. Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles. However, Thief's concept art clearly shows that one of Garrett's eyes is a different color than the other, so it's possible that Eidos considers at least part of Garrett's original history as canon.

In previous Thief games, Garrett used a rope arrow to reach high points. Now he has the Claw, a throwable grapple that attaches to certain points in the environment and allows Garrett to get out of sight quickly.

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room. As you upgrade your Focus you will get a bigger radius of things to see. We have a fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in. Every drawer in the room is accessible, but you use your Thief skills like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The region has come under rule of an iron-fisted Baron, who crushes his citizens under the boot of a militarized watch. Propoganda posters speak of prosperity, but this good fortune comes only to the elite.

Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

attaches to certain points

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room.

upgrade your Focus

fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in.

use your Thief skills

like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

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[dnf]

Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

This really sucks . Horror elements are out. Thief Gold is Best Thief(faggots disagree of course).

In previous Thief games, Garrett used a rope arrow to reach high points. Now he has the Claw, a throwable grapple that attaches to certain points in the environment and allows Garrett to get out of sight quickly.

Garrot is the new Batman. Popamolification process already started.

As you upgrade your Focus you will get a bigger radius of things to see. We have a fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in. Every drawer in the room is accessible, but you use your Thief skills like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

RPG mechanics are in. Quest compass too. Skyway is right once again...

 

[Infinitron]

Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

Of course, half of the fanbase thinks this is actually a good thing.

 

[Lancehead]

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room.

I... what? You need a skill to show where the lit candles in the dark are?

 

[Zewp]

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room. As you upgrade your Focus you will get a bigger radius of things to see. We have a fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in. Every drawer in the room is accessible, but you use your Thief skills like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

Thief: Absolution

 

[Bilgefar]

Eidos was vague about how faithful it would remain to Thief's original lore, but did say that it would tone down many of the series' magical elements. Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

Great. The one part of the "hardcore" Thief fanbase I dislike is the only one they decided to listen to. Confirmed to have no awesome levels like Return to the Cathedral or Shalebridge Cradle.

Focus lights up the screen and highlights pipes you can climb or candles you can put out to darken the room. As you upgrade your Focus you will get a bigger radius of things to see. We have a fingerprints system that will give you hints on which drawers are worthwhile to look in. Every drawer in the room is accessible, but you use your Thief skills like CSI to figure out where the valuables are.

Hoping against all hope this shit is toggleable or just disabled on Expert difficulty.

 

[dnf]

Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

Of course, half of the fanbase thinks this is actually a good thing.

Half the fanbase are massive faggots who don't apreciatte missions such as The Sword or Return to the Cathedral. Thief is one of the best horror games out there.

 

[felipepepe]

Players won't likely encounter undead monsters or prowling dinosaurs as they did in the early Thief titles.

Of course, half of the fanbase thinks this is actually a good thing.

Irrelevant, it's something that new popamole Thief decided it's bad, so we now automatically consider it good.

 

[JarlFrank]

I like how there are not going to be any horror levels, Return to the Cathedral was like FFFUUUUUU and I never played the Cradle cause even more FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

But the Bonehoard was awesome, then again I wouldn't trust the devs to make a catacomb level that is as well made as this.

Everything else sounds shit though. ololol visual hints on loot and everything, typical modern popamole bullshit, but at least it's bound to an upgrade system
Story sounds like a Dishonored ripoff. PLAGUE! OPPRESSIVE RULER!
I bet you will join some rebels during the course of the game who are fighting the good fight and in the end you have to assassinate the evil baron.

Yeah, I bet there'll be some assassination missions.

 

[SCO]

So they decided to remake... thief 1... with less 'supernatural elements'?



Anyway, i won't play this shit and i refuse to participate in their crap marketing blitz, goodbye thread