Twinfalls said:
yipsl said:
I have seen genuinely funny stuff here. Nothing in your rant about Bethsoft, Oblivion or attempts to insult me --failed your skill role by the way
At no stage have I ever laid claim to being funny here. I don't do funny. I do bitter and paranoid.
See my comment earlier in this thread. Critics of Oblivion here are plainly not 'mirror opposites of fanboys'.
You do bitter and paranoid well. Do you miss taking medication to achieve that effect or do you take "medication" to achieve that effect?
My whole "can dish it out but not take it" stands. I mostly like the Codex, and share most of the criticisms of Oblivion and think that Bethsoft deserves some serious satire. Yet, I think how that criticism is phrased makes a difference between "bitter and paranoid" fan that they'll ignore and long term fan of the series that they might take seriously.
I've made it clear on the official site that I'm getting Redwoodtreesprite her copy for modding and that I'm not getting a copy for my PC until I see how it plays and how the game is finished with mods and expansions. That's not the same as not buying the game outright, but it does make a difference when a fan buys more than one copy.
Ideally, I want to be able to play on my PC while redwoodtreesprite mods and playtests on hers. As is, I'll wait till the Holidays mod is out before I even consider playing it on her PC after she's asleep. Considering we own two GOTY sets for Morrowind plus the original game and expansions, we are the type of fans they should take seriously as customers.
We'll be with the series longer than the usual console fanboy who will flit to another game that they think is cooler than Oblivion. In the long term, PC sales due to the CS outstrip console sales, even if the console sales are larger initially.
Vault Dweller said:
Tarnarious said:
Setting makes a huge difference in roleplaying.
Really? I played crappy role-playing games in good settings (Lionheart, KOTOR) and good role-playing games in crappy settings (Bloodlines, Dungeon Master).
A good setting is a plus, but no more than that.
Good comment. I consider Oblivion's setting to be a plus, but it doesn't bump the game up much higher in my book. Here's how I rated the TES games on the official boards:
Arena 9 out of 10
Daggerfall 9 out of 10
Morrowind 6 out of 10
Oblivion a tentative 7 out of 10.
They're returning some traditional TES features while taking away other traditional TES features. I'll judge the combat when I play it, but dice rolls or not, they'd have been better off not using Morrowind's direction plus mouse click system and going back to Daggerfall's mouse movement controlled combat system for the PC.
The one RPG I'd rate a 10 out of 10 would be Betrayal at Krondor. I'd rate Might and Magic VII an 8 out of 10 and Baldur's Gate a 7 out of 10. So, Oblivion will be that odd mix of RPG and action that the devs seem to prefer over their prior achievement of heavy RPG with some action.
Are these devs insecure that they can't acknowledge what Daggerfall did right? Did they grow up on console games and not PCs because their Dads only used Macs? What's the story with these people? You'd think that Todd would be old school enough to make a difference, he's been around Bethsoft since the days of Arena.
