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Balor

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Heh, I love that figure of speech :). "Kill with stealth"... Mental picture:
You creep over to NPC and shout 'BOO!' into his ear. He dies from heart attack.
...
Sounds like a nice idea for mod, btw :D.
 

D&DRULEZ

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I cnat wiat to see all tes fuorms peoples com here and sartt the WE TLOD YOU DIS GAME WOULD ROX!!!
 

Drain

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Why else would they include stealth into the game, if you can't kill somebody with it?
 

Micmu

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That's a good idea for "Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!" mod, btw. If they haven't removed the Blind spell effect, of course. ;)
 

D&DRULEZ

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Minsc has rash in oddest places...
So does Boo, but he may have from being with me...
SHUT UP! crawls into corner.
 

HardCode

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Tarnarious said:
...and the ability to make your choices that do not affect the end-game either negatively or positively? You mean like that kind of immersion?

That isn't immersion. That is completely shitty RPG design.
 

yipsl

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Twinfalls said:
There is no need whatsoever for people to feel compelled to live in a 'middle ground'...deal with real opinions. Given Bethesda's PR for their game, they deserve strong criticism from fans of what TES used to be. No fucking ifs or buts about it.

Fuck 'balance', 'middle ground', and every other bullshit euphemism for 'you can't have opinions contrary to the herd'.

The 'dismissive attitude' to this thread that you're so critical of is because people are sick to fucking death of retarded Oblivion threads.

Typical Twinfalls! Face it, you don't see an RPG that meets your criteria on the horizon and so you can only complain. I think Bethsoft deserves much criticism, but more for the marketing and ditching traditional TES features than for being evil incarnate. The middle ground is realizing that if you don't want to only play ten year old RPGs, you have to be constructive enough to express your views without junior high school lunchtable language.

I have the greatest respect for a few devs and great disdain for a couple of devs. Most of them I don't have an opinion of because they don't post, and fanboy adulation or frothing at the mouth attacks are both retarded. Bethsoft is going from being a small developers in the cellar company with vision to a huge company with marketing studies, and that's not good overall. The industry doesn't need another EA. Yet, total dismissal of their games based on bad hype doesn't get anything changed.

For all I know, they're masochistic and prefer your adversarial stylings to constructive criticism. They could be Cynicism Incarnate, they could be Persian devs for all I know. Whatever they are, whatever the game is, I don't assume the worst, even if I fear the worst. See the difference? No, I guess you don't.
 

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Twinfalls said:
The 'dismissive attitude' to this thread that you're so critical of is because people are sick to fucking death of retarded Oblivion threads.

I think that hits the nail on the head. Hey, as far as I know, we don't run over to the Bethesda forums and preach to the unwashed there. However, it seems that once per month, in a near parody of the menstrual cycle, Bethesda fan queers feel the need to come to this forum and preach about how wonderful Bethesda is and how great Oblivion will be and how warm and delightfully creamy Todd Howard's jizz feels on their face.

Here's a thought to all you Bethesda poofters that feel the need to come here and spew your wisdom on us. The next time the sudden urge to post yet another WHY DON'T YOU LOVE BETHEDSA AND THE FLASHY GRAPHICS CRAP THEY COUGH UP? thread, try downloading some porn instead. I recommend something that doesn't involve elves or isn't drawn by some Japanese pervert which looks like something every other Japanese pervert drew.
 

yipsl

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Saint_Proverbius said:
Twinfalls said:
The 'dismissive attitude' to this thread that you're so critical of is because people are sick to fucking death of retarded Oblivion threads.

I think that hits the nail on the head. Hey, as far as I know, we don't run over to the Bethesda forums and preach to the unwashed there. However, it seems that once per month, in a near parody of the menstrual cycle, Bethesda fan queers feel the need to come to this forum and preach about how wonderful Bethesda is and how great Oblivion will be and how warm and delightfully creamy Todd Howard's jizz feels on their face.

Here's a thought to all you Bethesda poofters that feel the need to come here and spew your wisdom on us. The next time the sudden urge to post yet another WHY DON'T YOU LOVE BETHEDSA AND THE FLASHY GRAPHICS CRAP THEY COUGH UP? thread, try downloading some porn instead. I recommend something that doesn't involve elves or isn't drawn by some Japanese pervert which looks like something every other Japanese pervert drew.

You porn addicts don't have a life do you? Why all the recommendations for porn? Get a life and you won't need it. As for flashy graphics, even the beloved RPGS of ten years ago that we all played had flashy graphics for their time, except for Daggerfall, which managed quite well in the age of Doom 2 without emergent 3D, though Bethsoft did promise 3D card support that wasn't forthcoming.

Well, let's see how many new RPG threads are on RPG Codex. That's what your board's about isn't it? Unless RPG means "Ridiculous Pornographic Grumbling", I thought it meant Role Playing Game.

Some dismissive comments about the silly marketing for 'The Witcher" and more dismissive comments for Gothic 3. Dismissive comments on RPG Lite titles like KOTOR, anything by Bioware and Dungeon Siege. Dismissive comments about MMORPGS. I haven't played MMORPGs, so I don't know if they're as bad as some people say or as good as others say.

Kvetching is an art, a constructive art that you guys just aren't doing properly. First, it has to be funny. If it's funny, it's not dirty, if it's dirty it's not funny. Secondly, it has to be ironic, sardonic or satirical. All you guys can do is be dirty while you complain. That's just not right.

I'd be quite happy with less eye candy and more gameplay, but TES has a CS, which even if you don't mod yourself, is a boon to anyone who buys the game because mods will do for Oblivion what they did for Morrowind. Gothic 3 and The Witcher don't appear to be arriving with construction sets.

If you didn't have Bethsoft to complain crudely about, you wouldn't have much to talk about. Believe me, I share your concerns, but not your crudity. You guys are trolls who need to get out from under the dark bridge you've turned RPG Codex into and engage the world of computer RPGs.

If you don't, you'll be stuck reliving your mispent youth, complaining about anything past the first RPGs that caught your eye when you were younger and less cynical. When all that's left of your interest in RPGs is a grumble, then you might as well go take up basketweaving as a calming hobby.

As far as it goes, I'm not on the "Bethsoft is wonderful" bandwagon and it's you and twinfalls who have an obsession with gay imagery. Perhaps your local psychologist can help you through whatever changes you're going through. If it's meant as schtick, then it fails the test and you both can do better.

Place me in the "Bethsoft is a company that does some things right and some things wrong" category. They aren't evil incarnate, they aren't the only mainstreamers in the RPG world and if the alleged RPG Codex didn't have Bethsoft and Oblivion to kick around, then you'd have a stroke holding it all in.
 

Twinfalls

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Look you ageing LARP tragic, there's no need to get all sanctimonious just because you haven't had a boner since the early 70s. You say there's nothing witty, sardonic or satirical here, it's all just 'dirty or unfunny'. What rubbish.

You've been posting here long enough to know that this site has a plurality of types. There's VD who has more wit in his little finger than you and your army of grandpa-anime-trekkie-freaks combined, and who rarely resorts to bad language. Then there's Roqua who always resorts to bad language, but is nonetheless a shitload more interesting to read than your endless pompous ramblings. Saint and many other regulars here can be plenty witty and satirical when they choose.

You've got some kind of problem with sexual or 'rude' imagery. Fine. But there's no need to get pious about it. Fact is, most others don't - basically because everyone here is younger than you. Deal with it.

There seems to be no point in arguing with you about the substance of your criticisms of this place, as you ignore all the points raised. You still haven't responded to my key illustrative point - that when you said 'The Codex is retarded because everyone thinks Fallout is the only good RPG ever made', you were plainly ignoring the generally strong praise given here to Daggerfall.

As for this place 'kicking Bethsoft around', give me a break. You seriously think this site is in a position of power over a Xbox360 developer? Whatever.
 

kingcomrade

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*Sniff, that was beautiful Twinfalls.
VD, Saint, obediah, Twinfalls, Section 8, and all the others who make this place the most wonderful <s>video game</s> forum evar, I love you guys! :cry:
 

Shagnak

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kingcomrade said:
*Sniff, that was beautiful Twinfalls.
VD, Saint, obediah, Twinfalls, Section 8, and all the others who make this place the most wonderful <s>video game</s> forum evar, I love you guys! :cry:
My ego demands the gratification of personal mention.
Or you're off my xmas card list! :evil:
 

yipsl

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Tsk Tsk Tsk. I don't mind sexual imagery when used for humor, but you aren't funny. Yes, I know there are different personality types here. I have seen genuinely funny stuff here. Nothing in your rant about Bethsoft, Oblivion or attempts to insult me --failed your skill role by the way :lol:

My whole retard comment is that there are two extremes that are retarded. I parodied both extremes. They who can dish it out should also take it. You seem to have problems with any mention of Oblivion or Bethsoft here. Perhaps it's because you aren't having any influence over the series development?

My whole point is that criticism when well founded and constructive has influence. It did in the past and it will in the future. Being the mirror opposite of fanboys does not have any influence. The only reason fanboys have any influence is they are the mainstream segment Bethsoft polls to please.

Your taking this so godawful personally is pure tragicomedy, when it's not simply melodramatic. Thanks for the entertainment!

Twinfalls said:
There seems to be no point in arguing with you about the substance of your criticisms of this place, as you ignore all the points raised. You still haven't responded to my key illustrative point - that when you said 'The Codex is retarded because everyone thinks Fallout is the only good RPG ever made', you were plainly ignoring the generally strong praise given here to Daggerfall..

See the following:

Main Entry: sar·don·ic
Pronunciation: sär-'dä-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: French sardonique, from Greek sardonios
: disdainfully or skeptically humorous : derisively mocking <a sardonic comment> <his sardonic expression>
synonym see SARCASTIC
 

Twinfalls

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yipsl said:
I have seen genuinely funny stuff here. Nothing in your rant about Bethsoft, Oblivion or attempts to insult me --failed your skill role by the way :lol:

At no stage have I ever laid claim to being funny here. I don't do funny. I do bitter and paranoid.

Admit it - you were talking about the Codex as a whole being unfunny and 'retarded', not me individually.

Being the mirror opposite of fanboys does not have any influence.

See my comment earlier in this thread. Critics of Oblivion here are plainly not 'mirror opposites of fanboys'.

Thanks for the entertainment!

Anytime, ladies and germs!

yipsl said:
Main Entry: sar·don·ic
Pronunciation: sär-'dä-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: French sardonique, from Greek sardonios
: disdainfully or skeptically humorous

Lacking a key element there, Yipsl.
 
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My god I hate you all, you conceited plebs. Piss off. Don't ruin the game for me before its even come out.

I'm trying to remain open-minded about Oblivion, I'll just wait till I play the game before I dismiss it as being some shallow puddle of shite.




And Stargazey this is a crap topic, good luck with it though.
 

Balor

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PC Users > God > Everything Else > Nothing > Xbox users
Gold!
I'd but God just before Xbox users, but I'm biased.
 

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