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People News This is About Right and Wrong: The Chris Avellone Saga Continues

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by DarkUnderlord, Jul 10, 2021.

  1. Shitty Kitty Self-Ejected

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    "Gaming journalist" is just a prostitute that mostly uses their hands and mouth.
     
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  2. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Eh, how messier it makes things depends on the person and how one defines their personal boundaries for a relationship. People tend to view sex workers in a negative light since many of them associate sex with romantic intimacy rather than conceptualizing it on its own as a mundane physical activity ergo rendering sex for profit (or even pleasure, from the perspective of puritans who denounce sex outside marriage) is stigmatized as being somehow indicative of a pathology which would either make the sex worker incapable of offering that sort of emotional connection which a romantic relationship requires or cast doubt on her sincerity (i.e. she has rendered sex without being emotionally involved in the past, so she might not be emotionally involved in earnest even now in a relationship).
     
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  3. Dycedarg Learned

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    About Violet, I completely understand her disliking Avellone's message and making sure to set some boundaries. It was the fact that she brought it up several years later, after Chris apologized, as a way to "prove" he was a sex pest that should be a red flag for anyone seeing it. She did it for brownie points, to make every simp in the gaming industry sympathize with her "poor opressed womyn" sob story, and it obviously worked like a charm.

    I mean, you can complain if the guy is extremely rude and deny him "service", but being propositioned is literaly part of her job description. We are not talking about being threatened or coerced here, just receiving a rude message. That's why her being a prostitute is kinda relevant.
     
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  4. mondblut Arcane

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    Absolutely, that's the fucking point. If you are a plumber, you should expect your friends and acquaintances to occasionally ask you to fix their plumbing. If you are a coder, get ready to be pestered with requests to check why someone's PC fails to boot (because that's what coders do, as far as normies are concerned). And if you are a whore, well...
     
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  5. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Yeah, but her job description doesn't apply to her social life outside work. And MCA certainly didn't send those cringey texts as a work proposition for her, but simply as a 'flirt' (nor was he aware of her past as a sex worker presumably, not that it'd make a difference).
     
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  6. Mustawd Arcane

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    Again, they've had a flirtatious tweet exchange in the past. It's not like he's texted the local church organ player at random, ffs.
     
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  7. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    I'm not condoning her moralist attack on MCA, particularly when it was launched years after the fact.
     
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  8. mondblut Arcane

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    Sure, you can tell your friends "I only take plumbing requests from 9 to 17 during workdays" (and be seen as kind of a cunt eventually), but there is still no harm in asking.
     
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  9. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Nah, sex workers are much better, they are wonderful, you give them money and they give you something in return, you cant claim that about most women though.
     
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  10. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Yep, but that's not what he did. There's no harm in formally asking for a service, but he instead went for flirting with the expectation of sex as a social arrangement (whether romantic or just FwB) and she refused him in that light.
     
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  11. The Jester Cipher

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  12. mondblut Arcane

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    Friends don't often ask for services formally (and do hope for a free ride). Still no harm in asking.

    Hey, even if you ask your plumber friend to pay you a midnight visit and flush your shit real good, it's still not witchunt-worthy.
     
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  13. Dycedarg Learned

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    If we're talking about personal relationships, I fully agree with you. Everyone should have the liberty to define what is and what isn't a deal breaker in a romantic relationship. I even think it's reasonable not to discriminate former sex workers (emphasis on the former) against them if they are trying to have another career. But mixing sex work with other kinds of work in a professional enviroment is a recipe for disaster. Think of the kind of incentives that would create. That's why I don't think sex work is just another kind of work.

    Agree. But based on her past experiences, she should be able to tell the difference between a guy being a douche and some major sex pest red flag. That makes her actions look more malicious.
     
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  14. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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  15. Dexter Arcane

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    If you unironically use the word "sex worker" to refer to a whore/hooker/prostitute and then go on babbling something about "romantic intimacy" and "emotional connections" in said context you've officially lost the right to complain about "cringe".
     
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  16. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Formal in the sense of being done in reference to her job. MCA flirted with her with the implied goal of obtaining a certain type of interpersonal interaction which is sexual in nature as a social acquaintance (friend or prospective lover), not an impersonal service in light of her work background. She simply responded in an appropriate manner to the type of social interaction initiated by MCA.

    Eh, I disagree. If one is a professional masseuse who is now working in another field, people in the workplace shouldn't expect massages just because. The workplace is a professional environment and the interactions therein must be kept professional (and if you become friends with your co-workers, then you need to compartmentalize it - co-workers at work, friends or more outside work).

    They were malicious, no doubt about that.
     
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  17. normie Arcane Patron Zionist Agent

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    what's the deal with sex workers? it's not sex and it's not work
     
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  18. Abracadabra Learned

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  19. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    This depends on what your definition of "real" is.
     
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  20. NJClaw OoOoOoOoOoh Patron

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    I'm Ridin' with Biden I'm Ridin' with Biden
    "So what"? "SO WHAT"?

    Do you really see no problem whatsoever with ruining one man's life bandwagoning on fake sexual assault accusations while drooling over a renowned rapist and begging him to fuck you?

    Are you fucking serious?
     
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  21. Abracadabra Learned

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    What do you mean? It is a girl name!
     
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  22. Abracadabra Learned

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    What if the rapist was hot and the other guy was fat?
     
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  23. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik Wumao

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    Ed123 got #MeToo'd?
     
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  24. Abracadabra Learned

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    If he comes into contact with women it is harassment for sure!
     
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  25. DeepOcean Arcane

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    To be fair, if you say sexual harassment words to random women like: "I like RPGs." or "I'm broke."

    Dont worry, if you ever leave the broke status, she will remember your threatening fat oppressive nerd presense and how you psychologically assaulted her.
     
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