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People News This is About Right and Wrong: The Chris Avellone Saga Continues

Irxy

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Come on, how is it even supposed to work?
"Hello world, look how I put a pineapple in my vag in this video!"
"Hey girl, nice vag, wanna meet?"
"OMG, HARASSMENT!"
That was a conversation between two social acquaintances, not between a porn star and a prospective client. Cringy flirting is cringy and she is free to respond to it however she likes. (Which is not to say that it constitutes harassment in a legal sense, just MCA's behavior being an annoyance to her.)
Free? Yes. Justified? No.
 
Vatnik Wumao
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Justified? No.
Perfectly justified. Conduit in one's private life shouldn't be dictated by societal whims.
Which part of the story is private exactly, public porn video or public condemning of a sext message?
I've already said that I do not agree with her public condemnation of it (and that's mostly due to the context in which it was done).

I find it distasteful in general when individuals try to trash public figures by reference to the latter's private lives (e.g. scandals about politicians being unfaithful to their spouses). Where I draw the line though is when it is done with malicious intent in order to corroborate false accusations that might very well have legal ramifications. MCA is not a sexual predator, she made those public accusations in order to give further credence to the narrative that he is one.
 

Lord of Riva

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That was a conversation between two social acquaintances, not between a porn star and a prospective client. Cringy flirting is cringy and she is free to respond to it however she likes. (Which is not to say that it constitutes harassment in a legal sense, just MCA's behavior being an annoyance to her.)

But you do not know if there wasn't talk about her Porn career. That may have been talked about and she could have stated that she was open for advances. The whole assumption here is, is that she behaved "professional" as to whatever she did in the gaming industry but I doubt this was the case (because they all were drinking alcohol, right?), failed advances from men to women are often based on misinterpretation.

There is simply no reason to conclude that her openess and public behavior towards sex had no impact in that exchange. It is therefore valuable to point it out.

Well, I just wanted to stress that Violet isn't a proper porn-actress which in turn of course should be labeled as "sex-worker". Nowadays, in general many girls with relaxed moral standarts doing various porn vids (exlusively with their bf for example) or go to castings or refrain to camwhore stuff or even soft thot stuff. Labeling them all as "whores" or even "sex-workers" seems as kinda lazy and ineffective approach. I'd like to know on what exact terms she did those JD vids for starters, she probably got paid but I'm far from being sure.

Sex-work is getting paid for sex, which can also be done for marketing purposes, to get money from advertisers on their "content", just to counter your argument regarding payment. It is not necessary to have a certain threshold reached before you are a sex-worker, why would that be the case? Why would that be "ineffectual", what is it you want to describe then, when you say sex-worker? How often is the necessary threshold?

maybe I'm just retarded but I do not understand your position.
 
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But you do not know if wasn't talk about her Porn career. That may have been talked about and she could have stated that she was open for advances. The whole assumption here is, is that she behaved "professional" as whatever she did in the gaming industry but I doubt this was the case, failed advances from men to women are often based on misinterpretation.

There is simply no reason to conclude that her openess and public behavior towards sex had no impact in that exchange.
Eh, one can be a hypocrite and it's their prerogative. I'm just saying that there isn't anything inherently wrong in having certain standards in one's personal life regardless of what you do in your professional life.

People should definitely take issue with what she did when accusations against MCA started rolling, but her interaction with MCA at that time was perfectly legitimate.
 

jackofshadows

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Sex-work is getting paid for sex, which can also be done for marketing purposes, to get money from advertisers on their "content", just to counter your argument regarding payment. It is not necessary to have a certain threshold reached before you are a sex-worker, why would that be the case? Why would that be "ineffectual", what is it you want to describe then, when you say sex-worker? How often is the necessary threshold?
Let me paraphrase then: my first point was about trying to segregate sex-workers more. As opposed to what sjw-infested ones prefer to do, actually: just paint them all as "sex-workers": from some mundane streetwalker to make-up artist girl of porn business to an actual porn-star etc etc. All of them. Calling all of them whores is equally useless but lets not get into that. My second point was regarding Violet and the bottom line is: she doesn't do porn for living, nor did she back then, despite those few attempts so treating her as such is simply misleading. Apparently she was a conslut, pretty much same as Karissa though but that's a whole another matter. As for certain threshholds - they may vary a lot as well. Shlicking on camera and participation in a gangbang with blacks is a different thing etc.
 

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Sex-work is getting paid for sex, which can also be done for marketing purposes, to get money from advertisers on their "content", just to counter your argument regarding payment. It is not necessary to have a certain threshold reached before you are a sex-worker, why would that be the case? Why would that be "ineffectual", what is it you want to describe then, when you say sex-worker? How often is the necessary threshold?
Let me paraphrase then: my first point was about trying to segregate sex-workers more. As opposed to what sjw-infested ones prefer to do, actually: just paint them all as "sex-workers": from some mundane streetwalker to make-up artist girl of porn business to an actual porn-star etc etc. All of them. Calling all of them whores is equally useless but lets not get into that. My second point was regarding Violet and the bottom line is: she doesn't do porn for living, nor did she back then, despite those few attempts so treating her as such is simply misleading. Apparently she was a conslut, pretty much same as Karissa though but that's a whole another matter. As for certain threshholds - they may vary a lot as well. Shlicking on camera and participation in a gangbang with blacks is a different thing etc.

I see, that may be a viable viewpoint in general for specific aspects. I am not sure how it applies here but fair enough, i do understand where you are coming from.
 
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Reminder that there's no such thing as platonic friendship between a man and a woman
"why did chris interpret her message that way?" -> because he was, on some level, attracted to her.

Was she just some person who happened to be his friend? NO.
She was using him to better her career.
This was before I was fulltime in the games industry, but knew I wanted a future in it and was actively working towards that. Chris was one of the ‘industry greats’ I was frankly flattered to even know let alone be friendly with. So I forgave and regularly asked him career advice.

Friendships between men and women do not exist.
 

Absinthe

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Is this normal behaviour for a woman on the west nowadays? I hope not, because that’s pretty messed up
He's exaggerating somewhat, and no, it is not, but you only need to get involved with one crazy woman to regret it and these days there are terrible communities on the internet that promote and enable such behavior, especially because in the west it has become more popular to immediately side with the accuser if the accuser is a woman. And of course, depending on the community (as well as how famous you may be within those communities), your odds of encountering narcissistic and envious women will rise a lot.

Karissa however is simply a mentally ill person. She has bipolar disorder, by her own account, which no doubt played into her extreme moods regarding Chris Avellone.


Niche Gamer does not seem to understand what "unbiased" means. They're obviously biased. They're just biased in a different direction.
 
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Niche Gamer does not seem to understand what "unbiased" means. They're obviously biased. They're just biased in a different direction.
Nobody wants unbiased coverage anymore, there's no market for it, nobody will ever get hired for putting "can write unbiased articles" on their resume
 

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Eh mondblut, do you not have a concept of "not my type" or something?

If it's fuckable - that is, not too old (= too ugly), not too fat (= too ugly), not deformed (= too ugly) and not too ugly, it's my type enough.

In a thread like this, haven't you realized yet that not every woman will make you happy?

She will make me ejaculate, which is pretty much the same thing.
 

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