Game News THQ Nordic want to remake Gothic, playable teaser released to owners of previous Piranha Bytes games

[Elex]

Anyone playing it? All the PB games I own are on GOG

i have all the physical copy

 

[Zed]

is this fucking real?

i suddenly have the urge to commit arson.

also heard from reddit thread there is a fucking quest marker for fuck's sake. MOOOOOM where are our torches??!!!

What to do?
Why me?

These are the same reactions people seem to have to this remake.

 

[thesecret1]

Feel free to skip the first two and get right on remaking the third one, please.

Yes!
The 3rd one needs to be remade so that it plays like G1 or G2, instead of this button mashing wolf avoiding simulator...

exactly. Remakes can't improve G1 and G2, but they can improve G3

 

[Elex]

remaster with better UI and better control scheme.
stop.
no need of that modern stuff that add nothing usefull.

 

[thesecret1]

Alright, ways to objectively improve G1:
-redo the inventory
-fix in-game economy so that you don't end up with 30k magic ore you can't spend
-put in G2 controls
-better compatibility with older systems
-graphics facelift
-better VAs for the english version
And that's it. That's all that a remake ought to do and nothing more.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

remove localized VA altogether and force the German VA across all regions

Agreed.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

That looks horrible! The colours pallette, the bloom. Jesus. Field of view is smaller than in the original.

 

[J_C]

....and refund requested. They already fucked up the intro by having the lift explode for some stupid reason instead of the iconic greeting by the guards. The main character also talks to himself too much and has a dumb cockney accent.

What kind of refund? It's free.

 

[The Red Knight]

http://fractal.su/cryengine_gothic/

What kind of refund? It's free.

Maybe he bought one of the games to get access to it?

 

[harhar!]

You can give the developers feedback here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftJZUc28IwT7PS9C2emlZXT9bIDiu-P69y68hjzZW6j_42tw/viewform

My comments:

I'd buy a good Gothic 1 remake but this isn't it. The MC looks like a bargain bin Geralt, the world lacks the original's athmosphere, the voice acting is bad, opening cutscene strips agency from the player, the inventory takes you out of the game and looks consolized, markers over NPCs and items are stupid, music is bland, the story is bland and the opening reminds me of a second-rate action game.

The MC should be in the middle of the screen with more zoom out, instead of to the side. He also talks WAY too much. The FO4 dialogue wheel is an abomination. Why can't I take the sword from the burning corpse when I arrive? Why can't I try to attack the dude who guards it? The looting window disappears too slowly. Choosing to kill someone should be an in-game mechanical choice. Other NPCs shouldn't always kill the MC. Climbing is too restricted. Invisible walls suck. The hints for the quests are a little on the nose. The magical barrier is ugly.

Some good things: There are some nice secret areas with extra loot. Multiple quest solutions are nice. Hints from NPCs/objects instead of a quest marker.

In conclusion, very little reminds me of Gothic. There are only some superficial elements remaining. Why would you replace great music from KAIRO with this bland mix? This remake should be much, much closer to the original and understand what made it great before changing anything.

 

[Dexter]

PSA from the other thread: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-thq-nordic-playable-teaser-available.131114/

If you wanna play this, they seem to have badly screwed up some settings like Post-Processing and/or Shadows, play around with those for better results:

Post Processing & Shadows on Epic:

Post Processing and Shadows on Low:

If you don't want to turn everything off you should at least disable Motion Blur to make faces not blur over your screen and wolves look less like crazy fuzzballs, you can disable Motion Blur in the Engine.ini located at: "Steam\steamapps\common\THQBCNP1\GothicRemake\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor"

Add this to the end:
[SystemSettings]
r.MotionBlur.Max=0
r.MotionBlurQuality=0
r.DefaultFeature.MotionBlur=0

For people that want changes to be made I'd recommend you download and play the Teaser yourself before it disappears from Steam in a few days and leave some honest Feedback, either on their Teaser Survey or through other channels like Steam or Discord instead of being all edgy and crying about it on the Codex, which isn't actually going to achieve anything.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftJZUc28IwT7PS9C2emlZXT9bIDiu-P69y68hjzZW6j_42tw/viewform
https://steamcommunity.com/app/950670/discussions/0/3145133021635977487/

They’re probably going to make another Gothic at some point anyway, might as well try to provide some Feedback to try and guide them in a desired direction a bit, since they’re asking for it and seemingly taking it somewhat seriously.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Still: I'll remain optimistic regarding the whole thing!

Don't.

 

[Bahamut]

These people dont get the original game at all, this is crappier than PB's at worst, and it runs like dogshit

 

[Invictus]

If they got the IP back and might have the code for the original game why not hand that over to Deepdive or another studio that can do an updated version of the games with support for modern systems, resolutions, tweaks and be done for? I bet if they just did that as an add on to the games for say $5 they would easily sell 15,000 upgrades easily for a very cheap update instead of this...
Makes me want to replay Gothic, will start tonight

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

Doesnt much need a remake. It already has a high quality graphix mod, and I think the 'wonky' controls and interface are fairly ciritcal to the experience as it is.

Well, at least the camera is better.

 

[Eirinjas]

Meh. And that green and white bar above the player's head is ugly and distracting. Also, why are the puddles sloping downhill?

 

[SmoothPimp]

Since when Diego is a fucking musketeer from Dumas' modern movie adaptations?

 

[Deleted Member 22431]

Oh, please, Murk. Now you are going to tell me that Gothic camera was good? That thing give me motion sickness, ffs!

 

[Metro]

Played it an hour. I would hope THQ Nordic has the sense not to fund this abomination.

 

[Murk]

Oh, please, Murk. Now you are going to tell me that Gothic camera was good? That thing give me motion sickness, ffs!

This new one gives me a headache (not an exaggeration, it is painful on my eyes and often I had to look away from the screen because of it's fucked up FOV -- it reminded me of original Metro 2033's view tbh) and can't be zoomed out. When you are in combat, you have no clue how far/close you are to an enemy either and can't pan it around properly to get a good feel.

I would 100% prefer the original's, or Risen's, or even Elex's. This one sucks ass.

 

[Metro]

It's the stupid over-shoulder crammed FOV modern AAA games seem to love. I guess it works well with the shitty QTE combat. If you had a proper combat system you'd need a more centered and wider angle on the player character.

 

[Murk]

It's the stupid over-shoulder crammed FOV modern AAA games seem to love. I guess it works well with the shitty QTE combat. If you had a proper combat system you'd need a more centered and wider angle on the player character.

They seemed to have realized this in some part, because if you just unsheathe your weapon, it goes to a centered and broader view (which is then undone when you lock-on, which you sort of have to in order to do the stupid directional duel nonsense).

It's just a frankenstein's monster of features, all haphazardly thrown together, none of which are at all close to the original game.

Fine, fuck it, change the combat and mechanics -- but make it an actual improvement (or in this case, we'd be lucky if it was at least a neutral lateral change).

 

[Smejki]

my review
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Smejki/recommended/950670/

 

[Smejki]

Why is Diego talking and acting like a homosexual?

Why is he fucking boring me to death?
(pun not intended)

 

[Smejki]

This had to be done