Game News Torment Kickstarter Update #9: Chris Avellone!

[Jaesun]

A man who comes up with a talking STOP sign is pure awesome to me. <3

 

[Shadenuat]

Oh come on, now you're just playing dirty Fargo! This is just a plan to suck everybody from Codex of their money!

 

[Brother None]

@BrotherNone Will he be doing this one remotly like some of the other writers?

Chris? He's pretty close to inXile location-wise, and worked in the inXile studio a few days a week for Wasteland 2 IIRC. So he could well be a fairly regular presence at the studio, but I don't really know what the plan is there. It's not all that important since Colin isn't at inXile either so the main creative communications have to happen over a distance anyway.

Oh come on, now you're just playing dirty Fargo! This is just a plan to suck everybody from Codex of their money!

We're trying to harass you guys into doing a fundraising drive. No luck so far.

 

[jewboy]

Well maybe F2F comms are overrated anyway. Thailand is a long way off though. Should be interesting coordinating things with Adam.

 

[tuluse]

Brother None are there going to be reward tiers designed for forums like with PE or W2? Like the Obelisk tier is cool, but a forum can't really make use of physical goods for a call with Fargo.

 

[felipepepe]

Hey guys, we're making a new Torment, but sadly MCA can't join us, what a pity... that would be PERFECT, wouldn't it? :wink wink:

Oh look, this just came in, if you bury us under a pile a money, MCA will join us! WHAT A SUPRISE, NO ONE EVER SAW THAT COMING! DONATE NOW!

Fargo did learn a lot in his exile years... and Codex proves just as gullible as any fanbase... as if pilling up completly different writers over a single project would be a recipe for success, and not disaster...

 

[Infinitron]

Hey guys, we're making a new Torment, but sadly MCA can't join us, what a pity... that would be PERFECT, wouldn't it? :wink wink:

Oh look, this just came in, if you bury us under a pile a money, MCA will join us! WHAT A SUPRISE, NO ONE EVER SAW THAT COMING! DONATE NOW!

Fargo did learn a lot in his exile years... and Codex proves just as gullible as any fanbase... as if pilling up completly different writers over a single project would be a recipe for success, and not disaster...

Does that mean you're not going to brofist my newspost?

 

[Surf Solar]

I don't know about all the jizzing. Really still angry at MCA for derping Lonesome Road "Hurr durr, its post apocalyptic, so the society can never rebuild, here I'm gonna nuke them all again just to be sure".

That was actually the best thing of the entire DLC/New Vegas for me. Civilisation in NV was too much advanced already to be called a fallout game to me.

 

[Stabwound]

Wow, this is the most milking kickstarter yet. I'm eagerly awaiting the $4,000,000 2D stretch goal.

But seriously, they're really milking this for all it's worth.

 

[Brother None]

I don't know about all the jizzing. Really still angry at MCA for derping Lonesome Road "Hurr durr, its post apocalyptic, so the society can never rebuild, here I'm gonna nuke them all again just to be sure".

That was actually the best thing of the entire DLC/New Vegas for me. Civilisation in NV was too much advanced already to be called a fallout game to me.

I agree. With the way the setting is thundering forward, not just with the NCR in NV but with the implied pacification of Washington and the advanced nature of the Commonwealth, it kind of seems like the setting will either need a creative reset really soon, or become post-post-apocalyptic sci-fi (or be inconsistent nonsense like Fallout 3)

 

[Rake]

I don't know about all the jizzing. Really still angry at MCA for derping Lonesome Road "Hurr durr, its post apocalyptic, so the society can never rebuild, here I'm gonna nuke them all again just to be sure".

That was actually the best thing of the entire DLC/New Vegas for me. Civilisation in NV was too much advanced already to be called a fallout game to me.

I agree. With the way the setting is thundering forward, not just with the NCR in NV but with the implied pacification of Washington and the advanced nature of the Commonwealth, it kind of seems like the setting will either need a creative reset really soon, or become post-post-apocalyptic sci-fi (or be inconsistent nonsense like Fallout 3)

I wouldn't mind a post post-apocalyptic "transition" Fallout and then to move the setting in proper sci-fi territory. But only if it was made by Obsidian. Bethesda's Fallouts will always be nonsense inconsistent or not.

 

[Koschey]

Well played, inXile, well played. You really had me believing MCA was out as a stretch goal.

Sooo...romanceable MCA as a companion to have the first Codex-approved ingame romance ever?

 

[Jaesun]

Well if you think about it, ALL romanaceable characters MCA wrote are technically you romancing MCA.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Well if you think about it, ALL romanaceable characters MCA wrote are technically you romancing MCA.

I kissed MCA!

But I'm not the only one.

 

[grdja]

Regarding Fallout. There are 200 years of time and entire North American continent of space. Saying that story is stuck and needs a reset is nonsense.

 

[St. Toxic]

Where's the Tim Cain stretch goal? He could write some dialogs.

 

[Koschey]

Nah, Tim should make a cook book with recipes from one billion years in the future.

 

[catfood]

Hey guys, we're making a new Torment, but sadly MCA can't join us, what a pity... that would be PERFECT, wouldn't it? :wink wink:

Oh look, this just came in, if you bury us under a pile a money, MCA will join us! WHAT A SUPRISE, NO ONE EVER SAW THAT COMING! DONATE NOW!

Fargo did learn a lot in his exile years... and Codex proves just as gullible as any fanbase... as if pilling up completly different writers over a single project would be a recipe for success, and not disaster...

Yeah, it was painfully obvious right from the start that they were going to have an Avellone stretchgoal. I'm surprised it's so low, though. Maybe for $5 mil they'll have romances written by Gayder goal. That alone would bring in $1 mil easily.

 

[Brother None]

Yeah, it was painfully obvious right from the start that they were going to have an Avellone stretchgoal.

That's surprising, considering that we were pretty sure it wasn't going to happen when we kicked off, and the blessing video was all he could do for us, and only a few days ago did we finally finalize this opportunity. But I guess it was painfully obvious to everyone else.

 

[Infinitron]

Hey guys, we're making a new Torment, but sadly MCA can't join us, what a pity... that would be PERFECT, wouldn't it? :wink wink:

Oh look, this just came in, if you bury us under a pile a money, MCA will join us! WHAT A SUPRISE, NO ONE EVER SAW THAT COMING! DONATE NOW!

Fargo did learn a lot in his exile years... and Codex proves just as gullible as any fanbase... as if pilling up completly different writers over a single project would be a recipe for success, and not disaster...

Yeah, it was painfully obvious right from the start that they were going to have an Avellone stretchgoal. I'm surprised it's so low, though. Maybe for $5 mil they'll have romances written by Gayder goal. That alone would bring in $1 mil easily.

I guess that's why they flat out told people he WASN'T going to be participating which must have cost them crucial first day pledges.

 

[felipepepe]

That's not how it works bro... even if some people didn't pledge, or peldged less due lack of MCA, the moment he is annouced there is a high chance of them coming back happly, and the ones that already pledge also are fueled to raise it up a bit, to help it be "just perfect"...

IMHO, sacrificing a bit of the first day pledges to have a HUGE announcement to boost things right at he middle-point of the campaign is a great stategy. It was already a great launch, placing all cards on the table would be a waste, it's the same logic behind why they reveal the strecht goals bit by bit. Is not because they feared that they woudn't reach 900k, but because they want to have something to motivate people even more at each step that is reached...

As goes with this sort of thing, is not something BAD per se... is a huge grey area, the limits of when they are "great at hearing the audience" or "milking people out" is very personal...

 

[Infinitron]

it's the same logic behind why they reveal the strecht goals bit by bit.

No, it isn't. If they had refused to commit on whether MCA would join the project or not ("maybe", "we're considering it", "all options are on the table", etc) then that would have been true.

But they didn't. They said flat out, THERE WILL BE NO MCA. They disappointed people. They drove at least some of them away, in the same way that PE drove some people away by going RTwP instead of TB.

 

[Jashiin]

Master strategists and master ninja editers !

 

[Brother None]

Master Ninja!

 

[catfood]

Hey guys, we're making a new Torment, but sadly MCA can't join us, what a pity... that would be PERFECT, wouldn't it? :wink wink:

Oh look, this just came in, if you bury us under a pile a money, MCA will join us! WHAT A SUPRISE, NO ONE EVER SAW THAT COMING! DONATE NOW!

Fargo did learn a lot in his exile years... and Codex proves just as gullible as any fanbase... as if pilling up completly different writers over a single project would be a recipe for success, and not disaster...

Yeah, it was painfully obvious right from the start that they were going to have an Avellone stretchgoal. I'm surprised it's so low, though. Maybe for $5 mil they'll have romances written by Gayder goal. That alone would bring in $1 mil easily.

I guess that's why they flat out told people he WASN'T going to be participating which must have cost them crucial first day pledges.

Yeah, and then luckily a MIRACLE happened. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not accusing anyone of lying or hiding information or anything. Fargo shows that he knows how to run a good campaign in order to get in as many backers and as much money as possible, and know when and what stretchgoals to add. The game would have been quickly backed anyway, so it would have made no sense to announce MCA right from the very beginning. Avellone is a good card and Fargo knew when to play him.

Anyway, I'm not accusing anyone of lying or spreading disinformation or anything. It's how business works. I think for most people it was not a question of 'if' but of 'when' would a collaboration with Avellone be announced. I doubt anyone (except fringe loonies like Roguey) is going to withdraw their pledge now that he is probably going to be on board. Most will be glad to have him join.