Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lancehead]

It would be stupid not to put it up as a stretch goal, from a funding standpoint. I also don't think people will (or should) compare P:E and TToN linearly.

 

[Rake]

It would be stupid not to put it up as a stretch goal, from a funding standpoint. I also don't think people will (or should) compare P:E and TToN linearly.

If they put it us a strech goal, the 3D crown will remove their pledges in the hope it's not achieved. if 3D is the strech goal the 2D crowd will do the same.
If they just say the game will be 2D, the people who like 3D will be disapointed, but extremely few cases will drop their pledge.

 

[Infinitron]

Yep. You don't put something like that as a stretch goal. It's a core attribute of the game, not an add-on.

 

[Blaine]

Agreed.

 

[Diablo169]

So what are the next set of stretchgoals going to be if not 2d? I know they mentioned the second city but apart from that?

 

[commie]

When are you going to stop evaluating and actually present something?

We just presented it, we just haven't said yet at what point it exactly it will be. And "barely 3 million"? I mean...wait, I'm being trolled aren't I? Ok, carry on.

Well 3 million is chump change when you see the amount it got in a day! Were it not for the 'biggest first day EVAH!' it wouldn't be all that crash hot. For once I agree with VD and say that 5-7 mil were on the table at one stage.

 

[JarlFrank]

Colin McComb ‏@ColinMcComb6m
BTW, we're opening a Fathom in the Labyrinth once we hit 10K Likes on FB (don't know what we spend the Likes on) . https://www.facebook.com/Torment.inXile

Liked.

 

[hiver]

I dont think there would actually be a lot of those who would remove their pledges. Its just barely a dozen people screaming about "vocal minority" and design by committee it in the comments - while they are professing that the only important thing for them is the "story".
Those are more or less clearly biodrones who expect that story to be told in biowarian way with cheap "romances" sex and other crap and who also cry at every signal they may not be able to see all of the content in one single playthrough.

- I guess you all know what i would say to that.

 

[Lancehead]

It would be stupid not to put it up as a stretch goal, from a funding standpoint. I also don't think people will (or should) compare P:E and TToN linearly.

If they put it us a strech goal, the 3D crown will remove their pledges in the hope it's not achieved. if 3D is the strech goal the 2D crowd will do the same.
If they just say the game will be 2D, the people who like 3D will be disapointed, but extremely few cases will drop their pledge.

I really doubt there'd be a torrent of pledge reduction/removal because of such a stretch goal. I mean, that sounds to me like an extreme reaction, assuming of course the mock-up screenshot will be as good as the P:E one.

 

[Infinitron]

So what are the next set of stretchgoals going to be if not 2d? I know they mentioned the second city but apart from that?

They could use PE's final stretch goal.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/posts/329795?page=4

$4m Stretch Goal - Enhance the Whole Game

OK! After much team deliberation we have one final ultimate stretch goal. At $4.0m we will be enhancing the whole game.

 

[Vault Dweller]

So what are the next set of stretchgoals going to be if not 2d? I know they mentioned the second city but apart from that?

Do you remember what PE's final 4 million dollars stretch goal was?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity/posts/329795?page=4

$4m Stretch Goal - Enhance the Whole Game

OK! After much team deliberation we have one final ultimate stretch goal. At $4.0m we will be enhancing the whole game.

BRILLIANT! Why couldn't these amateurs at inXile think up something like that.

Had to tag me?

Anyway, since I sense a soul in search of answers, who gives a fuck what the last stretch goal posted in the last day was (i.e. when the momentum is high enough as it is and people are pledging simply because the train is leaving the station)?

 

[hiver]

Yeah. 6 days to go.

On monday it will be 4. But just wait. Who needs any info man...

 

[Infinitron]

Anyway, since I sense a soul in search of answers, who gives a fuck what the last stretch goal posted in the last day was (i.e. when the momentum is high enough as it is and people are pledging simply because the train is leaving the station)?

But it could always be even higher! There are hundreds of thousands of potential backers out there, aren't there?

 

[winterraptor]

$4m Stretch Goal - Do Stuff

YES! After a long, hard debate involving sleeplessness and bitter compromise, we've reached a decision. At this stretch goal, THINGS WILL BE DONE. That's right, our writers will do some writing, our programmers will program, and the artists will draw! Repeat: STUFF. Lots of stuff, done well and fastidiously. We really think you'll be amazed by this stuff and this doing of the stuff!

In summary, we hope you'll help us reach this exciting goal, so we can do stuff!

P.S. - MCA will do it too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Brother None]

Had to tag me?

You two are adorable.

 

[Diablo169]

Come on Brother None give us a hint at least, is it something that will please Codex posters or is it just "enhance the game further!" stretchgoal incoming

 

[Tzaero]

Mod tools?
Another writer?

I doubt it.

 

[Infinitron]

Come on Brother None give us a hint at least, is it something that will please Codex posters or is it just "enhance the game further!" stretchgoal incoming

He can't. Kevin Saunders lurks this thread. :p

 

[Blaine]

Surely there must be some custom XenForo script that can hide a registered user's posts from selected other users and guests....

 

[Jasede]

$4m Stretch Goal - Do Stuff

YES! After a long, hard debate involving sleeplessness and bitter compromise, we've reached a decision. At this stretch goal, THINGS WILL BE DONE. That's right, our writers will do some writing, our programmers will program, and the artists will draw! Repeat: STUFF. Lots of stuff, done well and fastidiously. We really think you'll be amazed by this stuff and this doing of the stuff!

In summary, we hope you'll help us reach this exciting goal, so we can do stuff!

P.S. - MCA will do it too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So accurate; kind of sad.

 

[Jaesun]

Edgydex™

 

[Jasede]

It ain't edgy man, that really was kind of how I am sure a lot here felt about that last PE "goal". Yolo, let's do more of everything! WOOHOO!
We want them to do more of everything, sure... but that's a given, and should be. Making it a goal is silly.

But then we get to the wider debate about how stretch goals are silly in the first place- this shouldn't be some kind of marketing contest. But it is because people like that sort of thing and if you want to get the most funding you have to work with the majority of people - individuals who might not pledge if the day 1 goal of the Kickstarter was some kind of staggering, but realistic sum.

 

[Jaesun]

So what would you propose then?

 

[Brother None]

Final stretch goals are kind of a bitch tho. I mean, if you're going to make it "something vital", something the team wants as much as the fans, like a second big city or MCA or Ziets or whatever, then you realistically run the risk of not hitting it and then hemming and hawwing about still implementing it. Sure, if you get close enough it's not a big deal but if you're quite a ways off then it might actually become a budgeting problem as well, and that means you teased something that people know you want but that can't be implemented without sacrificing other parts of the game.

I think WL2's final stretch goal was "MORE GAME" too. I'm not sure what else is there to say. I think at that point it might actually be best to just do without a stretch goal, and just see where it ends.

 

[Blaine]

I think the surprise final stretch goal for Star Citizen (playable Bengal Carrier) vacuumed up a shitload of additional pledges, I'd wager, but T:ToN just isn't the kind of game that can offer a comparable stretch goal, mechanically or thematically.