Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Kirtai]

It's, actually, science fiction. The trick is that the technology involved is so advanced and so ancient that many of the setting's inhabitants can't distinguish it from magic anymore.

Wow, that sounds even more interesting, can't wait to explore that world!

It's sufficiently advanced technology, in the sense of Clarke's Third Law.

 

[Jaesun]

Brian Fargo ‏@BrianFargo
We will get on some stretch goals ASAP.. after we are done running around and waving our arms in excitement.

 

[Aeschylus]

Brian Fargo ‏@BrianFargo
We will get on some stretch goals ASAP.. after we are done running around and waving our arms in excitement.

Fargo's twitter feed has put a smile on my face today. He has a kind of earnestness that is rare in *any* industry these days, it's kind of refreshing.

Oh well, I'm off for a while, hope to see it leaving $1m in the dust by the time I get back.

 

[Jaesun]

I need to take a shower. It will probably be 1 mil when I get back.

 

[evdk]

So, as VotS is supporting this Kickstarter with all of his shriveled black heart, the position of chief naysayer seem to be open. Who will try to fill in his shoes?

 

[tuluse]

Brian Fargo ‏@BrianFargo
We will get on some stretch goals ASAP.. after we are done running around and waving our arms in excitement.

Fargo's twitter feed has put a smile on my face today. He has a kind of earnestness that is rare in *any* industry these days, it's kind of refreshing.

Oh well, I'm off for a while, hope to see it leaving $1m in the dust by the time I get back.

I think this is what comes from selling something you believe in directly to people.

 

[hoverdog]

I need to masturbate furiously in the shower. It will probably be 1 mil when I get back.

fixed for truthz

 

[Kz3r0]

$21,146,681
trending toward

 

[Akarnir]

I must say I also hope for more of a sci-fi fantasy, than pure fantasy, much more interesting that way IMO, and pure fantasy is mostly boring anyway (as it has been done dozens of times already).

Numenera is Sci fi as I understand. Can someone with actual experience shed more light?

It's science fantasy.

It's, actually, science fiction. The trick is that the technology involved is so advanced and so ancient that many of the setting's inhabitants can't distinguish it from magic anymore.

More like, everything is so unrealistic and baseless that it becomes fantasy. Apparently there exist multiple plane of existence, one can shift his consciousness in different bodies, we haven't even clearly defined what consciousness means (one of the biggest meta physical debate), the singularity is possible (in fact some did the opposite), giant floating crystals is possible, there exist transcendent extra planar beings...
''Every thing is brain farted out of tin air, so why not just call it fantasy'' is basically the reasoning.

And that comes from someone who just backed, because that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining.

 

[Whisky]

Backed. Originally backed for $110, then I changed to $250 because I noticed the core-book and the player's guide. Alpha and Beta access sounds pretty swell too.

This is the last time I back this much. I said that before, but I'm standing by it now.

 

[Weierstraß]

Eh, think I'm going for a low pledge on this. I want to see the result from their first Kickstarter before jumping all in, and the cheapest of the interesting physical rewards is filled up already anyway.

 

[Kirtai]

This is the last time I back this much. I said that before, but I'm standing by it now.

Until next time.

 

[Excidium]

More like, everything is so unrealistic and baseless that it becomes fantasy. Apparently there exist multiple plane of existence, one can shift his consciousness in different bodies, we haven't even clearly defined what consciousness means (one of the biggest meta physical debate), the singularity is possible (in fact some did the opposite), giant floating crystals is possible, there exist transcendent extra planar beings...
''Every thing is brain farted out of tin air, so why not just call it fantasy'' is basically the reasoning.

And that comes from someone who just backed, because that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining.

That description applies to almost all science fiction in modern times.

Science Fiction really doesn't mean anything. Science fiction, for me, is a man on hoverbike flying around and zapping things.

 

[Akarnir]

More like, everything is so unrealistic and baseless that it becomes fantasy. Apparently there exist multiple plane of existence, one can shift his consciousness in different bodies, we haven't even clearly defined what consciousness means (one of the biggest meta physical debate), the singularity is possible (in fact some did the opposite), giant floating crystals is possible, there exist transcendent extra planar beings...
''Every thing is brain farted out of tin air, so why not just call it fantasy'' is basically the reasoning.

And that comes from someone who just backed, because that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining.

That description applies to almost all science fiction in modern times.

Science Fiction really doesn't mean anything. Science fiction, for me, is a man on hoverbike flying around and zapping things.

That's why I always said that the nomenclature was a bit incomplete. The low/mid/high fantasy distinction is good, but science fiction can mean a lot of different things, some very opposite.

 

[Gozma]

That kid that plays the Publisher Suit in the inexile videos has really ridiculously good comic timing, that was a huge stroke of luck for them. Nobody tell an 8 year old his bits in a pitch video were probably ultimately worth several hundred thousand dollars

 

[Snerf]

That kid that plays the Publisher Suit in the inexile videos has really ridiculously good comic timing, that was a huge stroke of luck for them. Nobody tell an 8 year old his bits in a pitch video were probably ultimately worth several hundred thousand dollars

Yeah, I seem to remember Fargo mentioning after WL2 their fortune finding this kid. He recognizes how well it works and it's not just convenience/familiarity that made him revisit the concept for this pitch video.

 

[skuphundaku]

More like, everything is so unrealistic and baseless that it becomes fantasy. Apparently there exist multiple plane of existence, one can shift his consciousness in different bodies, we haven't even clearly defined what consciousness means (one of the biggest meta physical debate), the singularity is possible (in fact some did the opposite), giant floating crystals is possible, there exist transcendent extra planar beings...
''Every thing is brain farted out of tin air, so why not just call it fantasy'' is basically the reasoning.

And that comes from someone who just backed, because that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining.

That description applies to almost all science fiction in modern times.

Science Fiction really doesn't mean anything. Science fiction, for me, is a man on hoverbike flying around and zapping things.

That's why I always said that the nomenclature was a bit incomplete. The low/mid/high fantasy distinction is good, but science fiction can mean a lot of different things, some very opposite.

Would you cut it out with all the bullshit? Science fiction is quite clearly defined ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/science_fiction ):
science fiction (uncountable)

1. Fiction in which advanced technology and/or scienceis a key element.
   Some people consider motion pictures such as the Star Wars movies more as fantasies than science fiction.
2. Technologythat, while theoretically possible, is not yet practical.
   Despite decades of research, mass-market personal aircraft are still science fiction.

The fact that you, along with some others, conflate science fiction with true science fantasy like Star Wars and other assorted types of space operas is irrelevant. I'm not in the mood to take apart item by item, VD style, all the things that you listed as proof of Numenera not being science fiction, but if you insist, I will.

 

[~RAGING BONER~]

Fuck, my Aspie-sense keeps tingling whenever Akarnir posts...


Also, GODDAMN this game is getting funded FAST!

 

[Whisky]

The whole projecting yourself into the other cast-offs sounds interesting. Reminds me of that part near the end of Planescape: Torment, with the three previous incarnations.

Well, they've certainly spoken and led me to believe they know the essence of Planescape: Torment, it will be something to see if they can deliver. This is still a very, very bold Kickstarter.

EDIT: Can't wait to see people scream decline when Real-time with Pause is announced.

 

[DalekFlay]

Love the concept art. Love the concept. The coming years are going to interesting if not amazing.

 

[Akarnir]

More like, everything is so unrealistic and baseless that it becomes fantasy. Apparently there exist multiple plane of existence, one can shift his consciousness in different bodies, we haven't even clearly defined what consciousness means (one of the biggest meta physical debate), the singularity is possible (in fact some did the opposite), giant floating crystals is possible, there exist transcendent extra planar beings...
''Every thing is brain farted out of tin air, so why not just call it fantasy'' is basically the reasoning.

And that comes from someone who just backed, because that doesn't mean it won't be entertaining.

That description applies to almost all science fiction in modern times.

Science Fiction really doesn't mean anything. Science fiction, for me, is a man on hoverbike flying around and zapping things.

That's why I always said that the nomenclature was a bit incomplete. The low/mid/high fantasy distinction is good, but science fiction can mean a lot of different things, some very opposite.

Would you cut it out with all the bullshit? Science fiction is quite clearly defined ( https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/science_fiction ):
science fiction (uncountable)

1. Fiction in which advanced technology and/or scienceis a key element.
   Some people consider motion pictures such as the Star Wars movies more as fantasies than science fiction.
2. Technologythat, while theoretically possible, is not yet practical.
   Despite decades of research, mass-market personal aircraft are still science fiction.

The fact that you, along with some others, conflate science fiction with true science fantasy like Star Wars and other assorted types of space operas is irrelevant. I'm not in the mood to take apart item by item, VD style, all the things that you listed as proof of Numenera not being science fiction, but if you insist, I will.

You imply that Advanced technology/and or science is not a key element in star wars?
And before you talk about the force being fantasy, consider the ''plane of pure consciousness and light'', the extra planar aliens, the consciousness shift... those aren't closer to science than the force is.

This setting is just fantasy, but in a place where technology hanging around is more advanced than today. Some here need to get over it, fantasy is not a bad word. Of course one can't feel as Edgy when liking fantasy...

 

[Jaesun]

Brian Fargo ‏@BrianFargo
What's funny is that our Producer Kevin Saunders is at the dentist and has NO idea what is going on yet.

 

[Azarkon]

Best thing so far about this? Kickstarters like this one, Project Eternity and Wasteland 2 show that players really do want more mature rpg's games with lots of mechanics and depth. Do hope at least a few suits pay attention.

The amount of $ required to get the suits to pay attention is several times larger... Unless you're talking about a mobile / social game.

 

[Snerf]

Brian Fargo ‏@BrianFargo
What's funny is that our Producer Kevin Saunders is at the dentist and has NO idea what is going on yet.

Pledge at the 25,000$ level and get one authentic, signed and numbered tooth of our producer, Kevin Saunders.

How can you not chews to pledge for that?

 

[Infinitron]

That's awful.