Warhammer Total War: Warhammer 2

[Danikas]

So dlc after this is gonna be skaven vs dwarfs they teased orc dlc in shadow and the blade trailer.

whispers "get ready for da waaaagh "

Now they tease skaven dlc in this trailer.

No skaven symbols in previous logo ^^

Also skaven dlc was teased this way once before in the hunter and the beast trailer next dlc was shadow and the blade:

 

[Maculo]

The NDA lifted on unit stats. Imrik seems strong as hell (an HE version of WAAGGHH?). The new HE archer RoR debuffs additional fire damage, which could synergize well with other HE units.

I listened to Turin's breakdown, but I am sure there are multiple videos on youtube.

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CA also released the lord effects: https://www.totalwar.com/games/warhammer-ii/the-warden-the-paunch/

Eltharion:

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FACTION EFFECTS

• Has access to the Dungeon of Athel Tamarha
• Can spread the Mists of Yvresse, cloaking Eltharion and his allies’ lands in a defensive shroud
• Recruit rank: +3 for Spear Infantry and Ranger units
• Diplomatic relations: -80 with Greenskins

MOUNTS

• Barded Ithilmar Steed: An extremely light yet resilient material, Ithilmar gives the same protection as heavy steel, but without slowing down its wearer
• Stormwing: Together with Stormwing, Eltharion cuts through Ulthuan’s foes like a wind of blades as the mighty Griffon rakes and claws with savagery

LORD EFFECTS

• Melee Defence: +8 for Spear Infantry and Ranger units
• Leadership: +8 for Spear Infantry and Ranger units
• Attribute: Causes Fear when fighting against Greenskins
• Immune to Barren Wasteland attrition

UNIQUE ITEMS

• Fangsword of Eltharion: This rune-encrusted longsword has been passed down through Eltharion’s family for generations, bestowing unto him the zeal of his forefathers
• Helm of Yvresse: The ceremonial crown of he who protects Yvresse’s ancient metropolis is an inspirational symbol of dogged determination
• Talisman of Hoeth: This finely wrought medallion allows its wearer a measure of the original Warden’s magical knowledge to aid in the guardianship of Yvresse.

UNIQUE SKILLS

A WORLD ASUNDER
Cooldown: -50% to "Mistwalker Barrage" Public Order: -1 (Local Province) Enemy leadership: -8 (Local Region)

BREAK UPON THE WALLS
Ability: "Unending Volley" for missile units (Lord's Army) Armour: +10 for shielded units (Lord's Army)

DEDICATED TO LADRIELLE
Attribute: Stalk for Mistwalkers units (Lord's Army) Missile strength: +20% for Mistwalkers units (Lord's Army) Vigour loss reduction: -40% for Mistwalkers units (Lord's Army)

GRIM DISCIPLINE
Replaces: "Martial Mastery and Martial Prowess" (Lord's Army) Passive Ability: "Grim Discipline" (Lord's Army) Attribute: Expert Charge Defence (Lord's Army)

STORM OF BLADES
Armour-piercing weapon damage: +55 Speed: +15%

UNYIELDING MARCH
Campaign movement range: +10% (Lord's Army) Recruitment cost: -25% (Lord's Army) Global recruitment capacity: +2

WALLWARDEN
Construction cost: -25% for Wall and Garrison buildings (Factionwide) Construction time: -2 for Wall and Garrison buildings (Factionwide) Armour: +15 for all units when defending (Lord's

Grom:

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FACTION EFFECTS

• Diplomatic relations: -80 with High Elves
• Global recruitment duration: -1 turn for Goblin units
• Has access to Grom’s Cauldron
• Suitable Climate: Temperate Island
• Waaagh! has a chance to contain Pump Wagons

MOUNT

• Chariot of Grom: Grom is ALWAYS mounted atop the Chariot of Grom

LORD EFFECTS

• Leadership: +10 when fighting against Elves
• Army ability: “Grom’s Waaagh!” (replaces: “Waaagh!”)
• Physical resistance: +10% for Goblin units
• Upkeep: -50% for Chariot and Pump Wagon units

UNIQUE ITEMS

• Axe of Grom: Like a butcher’s cleaver, Grom uses the fabled ‘Elf-Biter’ to make tasty cuts of meat out of his rivals!
• Lucky Banner: Along with his serendipitous standard-bearer, Niblet, who once somehow survived being sat on by him, the Goblin King’s banner brings inexplicable luck

UNIQUE SKILLS

BOISTEROUS SHAKEDOWN
Income from post-battle loot: +20% Magic item drop chance: +15% Income from sacking settlements: +15%

CHARIOT RACES
Attribute: Perfect Vigour for for Chariots and Pump Wagon units (Lord's Army) Armour: +10 for Chariots and Pump Wagon units (Lord's Army) Speed: +12% for Chariot and Pump Wagon units (Lord's Army)

COMIN' BACK!
Enemy leadership: -7 for Elven units (Local Region) Wound recovery time: -2

CULINARY CURMUDGEON
Growth: +15 (All Provinces) Casualty replenishment rate: +5% (Lord's Army)

DOWN TO SIZE
Bonus vs. Large: +10 for Goblin units (Lord's Army) Melee attack: +6 for Goblin units (Lord's Army)

GARGANTUAN GLUTTON
Hit points: +8% Physical resistance: +8%

HIS GREAT IMMENSITY
Leadership: +9 for Goblin units (Lord's Army) Leadership aura size: +75%

ROLL 'EM OVER!
Attacks cause "Rattled" effect, reducing combat ability Charge bonus: +50%

DA GREAT 'UN IZ 'ERE!
Ability: "Da Great 'Un Iz 'Ere!"

LANGUAGE OF DA BOYZ
Passive ability: "Lan

 

[Danikas]

New units.

5 fucking chariots included

 

[Maculo]

Imrik has:

• Anti-large as a footlord (and on horse?).
• Lord of Dragons: 30 second hex, -24 melee defense and -40 melee attack.
• Dragon Horn: 16 second map-wide buff, +24 melee attack and units cause fear.
• Starlance: 29 second self-buff, fire damage, 25% weapon damage, 50% charge bonus, 22% weakness to fire.
• Dragon mount that gives fire damage, 580 weapons strength, and of course breath attack.

Starting to think this guy should have been the opposite to Malus, since he seems like a (better) shock-damage lord.

 

[Delterius]

Here's to the end of Order NATO supremacy.

 

[Average Manatee]

"Expert Charge Defense: All" - This mean that archers will deadstop heavy cavalry? That'll be hilarious.

Grom's perfect vigor for chariots should be great so long as the chariots themselves are good. Still... the usual issue of 2 out of every 3 battles being sieges and cav/chariots being useless during sieges.

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Really like how the Rogue Idol and Pump Wagons are specialized anti-heavy infantry. Rogue Idol looks like it will be hilarious, just a mountain belly flopping on entire units. Will probably be tier 5 though.

 

[Maculo]

"Expert Charge Defense: All" - This mean that archers will deadstop heavy cavalry? That'll be hilarious.

Really like how the Rogue Idol and Pump Wagons are specialized anti-heavy infantry. Rogue Idol looks like it will be hilarious, just a mountain belly flopping on entire units. Will probably be tier 5 though.

The Greentide will meet the Dawitide on more even grounds now. Also, if I recall correctly, Grom will have access to a Rogue Idol through a campaign item, which should become available relatively early (well, relative to tier 5).

 

[Fedora Master]

CA managed to give the orcs a BRAVE AND STUNNING female unit with the river troll hag I see.

 

[razvedchiki]

Here's to the end of Order NATO supremacy.

until triggered players start complaining in the fora about that difficulty, next patch is ordertide again.

 

[Delterius]

Here's to the end of Order NATO supremacy.

until triggered players start complaining in the fora about that difficulty, next patch is ordertide again.

i want to believe

 

[Lone Wolf]

This mean that archers will deadstop heavy cavalry?

The mass of the heavy cav will still go right through them, but the charge bonus would be negated, yes. With archer HP pools, though, it barely matters - the h-cav would melt them very quickly in melee. I guess it does buy precious seconds.

 

[Average Manatee]

This mean that archers will deadstop heavy cavalry?

The mass of the heavy cav will still go right through them, but the charge bonus would be negated, yes. With archer HP pools, though, it barely matters - the h-cav would melt them very quickly in melee. I guess it does buy precious seconds.

My understanding is that it's normal charge defense that negates charge bonus. From what I've heard Expert charge defense reflects it somehow.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Normal charge defence is against large units. Expert charge defence is against all units. I might be wrong, but I think the deflection stuff is all speculation. In-game, the difference between the two (in terms of what the game tells you) is that expert charge defence = charge defence against all.

Empire Spearmen - 'When bracing, this unit negates the charge bonus of any large attacker' (Charge Defence)

Empire Halberdier - 'When bracing, this unit negates the charge bonus of any attacker' (Expert Charge Defence)

 

[Average Manatee]

Charge defense against all is a separate modifier, some units have it. Wouldn't make much sense to have two separate modifiers the do the same thing.

 

[razvedchiki]

use CTT and dont worry anymore about whatthefuck stats.

 

[Lone Wolf]

'Charge Defence Against All' is what it says in green on the unit card, but it is provided by Expert Charge Defence.

 

[Maculo]

Preview image for Imrik

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He has special dragons:

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Frenzy, constant chill aura, regeneration, stalk (on a forest dragon?), etc. He also gives useful bonuses to cavalry...unlike Malus.

 

[ZVERMIX]

Frenzy, constant chill aura, regeneration, stalk (on a forest dragon?), etc. He also gives useful bonuses to cavalry...unlike Malus.

Nice that he is a Free LC lord too. Dragon spam is very strong for HE as it is, you just need life mages to support. Just won a VH campaign with Teclis, gonna try to do my first Legendary HE run with Imrik. I know Tyrion is basically the easiest one for Legendary, but he just seems boring both lore- and gameplaywise.

 

[Maculo]

Frenzy, constant chill aura, regeneration, stalk (on a forest dragon?), etc. He also gives useful bonuses to cavalry...unlike Malus.

Nice that he is a Free LC lord too. Dragon spam is very strong for HE as it is, you just need life mages to support. Just won a VH campaign with Teclis, gonna try to do my first Legendary HE run with Imrik. I know Tyrion is basically the easiest one for Legendary, but he just seems boring both lore- and gameplaywise.

I am tempted to try Imrik first. There is a landmark building near Imrik's start position that buffs dragon princes and allows recruitment at tier 3. Dragon princes as a tier 3 unit seems nice, even though higher difficulties tend to heavily favor ranged units.

 

[Olinser]

Frenzy, constant chill aura, regeneration, stalk (on a forest dragon?), etc. He also gives useful bonuses to cavalry...unlike Malus.

Nice that he is a Free LC lord too. Dragon spam is very strong for HE as it is, you just need life mages to support. Just won a VH campaign with Teclis, gonna try to do my first Legendary HE run with Imrik. I know Tyrion is basically the easiest one for Legendary, but he just seems boring both lore- and gameplaywise.

Actually Vampire Coast is by far easiest Legendary I've done, it's a LAUGHABLY easy Legendary run, it's the first one I did for achievement and I was under zero threat the entire game and the final battle was a joke.

 

[Average Manatee]

By far the strongest/easiest legendary game is as Ikit Claw. No other lord is remotely close.

- Skaven inherent ability to spawn level 4/5 settlements with food 50 turns before any other faction can grow them. You have constantly overflowing food anyway due to the number of battles you fight, both enemy and rebel.
- Multiple Engineers magnify absurd stacking bonuses to all of your ranged shit.
- Basically everything about the Ikit Workshop is OP and stacks beautifully with Engineers. Super-powered infinite ammo ratling guns with 1300 DPS per model (I think this is technically inaccurate and it doesn't take into account how long it takes the gun to fire, but its still absurd). Jezzails that have enough range to snipe enemy lords across the map as soon as battle starts. Warpfire throwers that also annihilate large units along with small.
- If anything ever looks like it might go bad, drop a nuke lol.
- Skaven Infinite money exploit once you get to 13 settlements.

Seriously just look at these stats:

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OK I take it back, full-gun skaven has to be by far the most OP once you get going. Multiple Engineers + Ikit Claw workshop = absurd bonuses. Let me just compare the stats w/ 4 engineers to the "balanced" standard values.

Note that this is before the engineers use their AoE bonus to decrease reload time further (though min is 2s so ratling guns don't benefit) and give insane accuracy. After doing this the warp lightning guns had 3.3k DPS and sniped Malekith out of the sky in about 5 seconds from half a map away. Also kind of amusing is how they have a really high speed, so you can skirmish a whole army to death with warpfire throwers if you want. And their ammo is basically limitless at this point.

Granted, there are some other campaigns that can just be cheesed. Brettonian lords other than Repanse can basically reach their chivalry cap and end the game just by farming rebels caused by the starting public order penalty event.

 

[Berekän]

They created a nice summary of the update:

 

[tabacila]

No mention of the Black Orc Big Boss spotted in the streams. I guess they could release it part of the Skulls for the Skull throne thing.

 

[Maculo]

Kek. In addition to the special dragons, Imrik apparently also receives a special trait for each dragon tamed, which include additional breath attacks on every dragon factionwide, perfect vigor, regeneration, and additional stats.

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[Removal]

So the various Lord packs add in new mechanics?

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basically, are any of them worth buying?