Trigger the codex with a statement.

[Quillon]

I feel the edge is particularly strong today in codex.

 

[Darth Canoli]

I feel the edge is particularly strong today in codex.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I've tried playing Gothic 2 multiple times and always quit within the first hour because the controls are so awful. I genuinely believe anyone who thinks the controls are even acceptable(let alone 'good') are delusional.

 

[just]

disco elysium is a point and click adventure game

 

[laclongquan]

Gothics is a german overhype. Non-german dont find that game interesting~

 

[Mikeal]

Gothics is a german overhype. Non-german dont find that game interesting~

[Disagree in Polish]

 

[barghwata]

Gothics is a german overhype. Non-german dont find that game interesting~

[Disagrees in Algerian]

 

[Quillon]

disco elysium is a point and click adventure game

Yeah if Disco is an RPG, all Telltale games are RPGs too. Open the gates then.

 

[Duraframe300]

*Game* Journalist as well. Bros, I don't want to see Disco Elysium be abused as some sort of statement against turn-based combat in rpgs
It does its own thing, that's fine. Why must we fight our brethren?

 

[Grauken]

Ultima won the cRPG wars and killed off Wizardry-style games, and all modern western cRPGs can basically be tracked back to Ultima in some way or another

Fallout is just Ultima, all Infinity Engine games are Ultima (via all Goldbox games are Ultima), Dragon Age Inquisition is Ultima, Disco Elysium is Ultima (7) and so on and so on, you get the idea

 

[Lady_Error]

Fallout 3 and 4 are Wizardry though. And Skyrim.

(If we're going to define top down perspective as originally Ultima and 1st person as originally Wizardry).

 

[Grauken]

Fallout 3 and 4 are Wizardry though. And Skyrim.

(If we're going to define top down perspective as originally Ultima and 1st person as originally Wizardry).

Historically speaking, there's the curious parallel streams of FPS and dungeon crawlers developing side-by-side with lots of hybrids and cross pollination going on, like is Ultima Underworld the result of applying continuous motion to Dungeon Master, or was it about including melee mechanics in a Wolfenstein clone, but ultimately if we want to go with my ridiculous previous statement, you're right

 

[Lady_Error]

Well, the first FPS (was it Wolfenstein?) also came out much later than the first several Wizardries and Ultimas.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Fallout 3 and 4 are Wizardry though. And Skyrim

You mean Ultima Underworld

 

[Grauken]

Well, the first FPS (was it Wolfenstein?) also came out much later than the first several Wizardries and Ultimas.

Game historians trace the origins of FPS back to 1973's Maze War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maze_War

 

[Lilura]

Lilura is ten times the commentator Scorpia was.

As a rule, current gen written commentary shits on 80-90s Magazine commentary. Magazines were filled with ads and shallow reviews. They were a fucking rip-off, too.

Jagged Alliance 2 is better than Fallout.

 

[Grauken]

Lilura is ten times the commentator Scorpia was.

As a rule, current gen written commentary shits on 80-90s Magazine commentary. Magazines were filled with ads and shallow reviews. They were a fucking rip-off, too.

Jagged Alliance 2 is better than Fallout.

Scorpia is the only one immortalized in a cRPG

 

[Twiglard]

Outer Worlds has nothing on Oblivion.

 

[Grauken]

As a rule, current gen written commentary shits on 80-90s Magazine commentary. Magazines were filled with ads and shallow reviews. They were a fucking rip-off, too.

Even as somebody who likes the old magazines, I wouldn't disagree with you. But then, these magazines weren't commentary, they were really buy or no-buy recommendations by fans and some people with journalistic backgrounds that got stuck writing for gaming magazines, well written or smart, they were usually not

On the other hand, they actually talked about the games, instead of going into unrelated tangents the likes of Kotaku, Polygon or RPS like to do. And in the 80ies or 90ies they still had a better grasp of gaming history across various computer systems (due to less history at that point) than today's writers who have the memory of a mayfly

 

[Wunderbar]

Gothics is a german overhype. Non-german dont find that game interesting~

[Disagrees in Russian]

 

[eXalted]

Codex never play popamole RPGs but somehow their threads always end up 100+ pages.

 

[Quillon]

Codexers feign never playing popamole RPGs

 

[Grauken]

But what is a popamole RPG?

 

[Lilura]

And in the 80ies or 90ies they still had a better grasp of gaming history across various computer systems (due to less history at that point) than today's writers who have the memory of a mayfly

That was rare unless a magazine was multi-format. And multi-format magazines were usually worse than platform-specific ones. Usually, multi-format magazines were biased towards a certain platform, too. Whatever was most popular was held aloft, whatever was technically the best was utterly ignored. The PC magazines were the worst until Doom came out because then the PC technically had the best hardware and software... at least for 3D games, which was all that mattered to them after Doom came out.

 

[DavidBVal]

Just chipping in to say not all magazines were the same. MicroHobby magazine here in Spain (for ZX Spectrum) was absolutely awesome. I learned Basic programming since age 8 with that magazine, and then even C and Assembler! While it was mostly a gaming magazine with reviews, it also included articles about programming, electronics, gaming history (including the early text adventures), etc. And it was weekly!

Maybe a magazine like that also existed in english and for PC...