Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Ol' Willy]

What's your build?

My build is most likely shit. High guns, stealth, evasion, dodge, mercantile; average hacking, lockpicking, mechanics, electronics, tailoring. High AG and INT, rest is average. 12% crit chance with recklessness, some offensive feats (aimed shot, knee shot, rapid fire, hit and run), something else I disremember.

Traps aren't OP per se, its just that they allow you to tackle encounters that would otherwise be too difficult at, which is what gives you that impression.

Without traps I die in two turns against acid dogs. With traps I finish combat with >80% of HP. Looks like a deal breaker for me.

 

[jackofshadows]

If you ever needed your W2C ammo for sniper rifle or assault rifle, protectorate dreadnoughts have plenty

Huh, never cleared that warehouse. Protectorate doesn't turn hostile if you kill literally everyone there or you gonna take them out anyway?

 

[Ol' Willy]

which

I started with classic leveling on hard, although concerning my "guessed" build I'm not likely to become overpowered. Also, I hate to restart, and it's a matter of honour to finish the game with my blind building and leveling.

 

[Ol' Willy]

It's the usual RPG stuff, explore your surroundings.

I actually explored all the caves around. Killed a lot of critters, thugs, injured guy, went down to burrower basement and run away like a little girl. Somehow I either missed this cave, or maybe syphoners failed to spawn because I remember seeing location like this, but completely empty. Gotta check it when I'll be at home.

Speaking of oddities, because I check every goddamn container, I already reached a limit on a lot of oddities.

 

[Parabalus]

[Expedition] Psycho-temporal contraction now has a high chance of causing its opposite (with randomized power) when it expires

High quality trolling.

Critical Power - Base bonus changed to 1% (down from 1.5%) and spec bonus changed to 0.1% (down from 0.15%); I'm not happy with this feat in general. Straight unconditional passive damage boost feats is something I'm going to avoid in the future for sure

Looks like the katana is def worse than crafted gear now.

 

[Sjukob]

Good thing that I prepared myself in advance.

 

[jackofshadows]

Reading changelog as a full PSI-whore atm actually makes a lot of sense. It's just too versatile both skill investment wise and utility wise and force field is simply too exploitable. Learning abilities from teachers also a very good change. Although I'm not gonna test all of it right away and will finish the game as is.

Somehow I either missed this cave, or maybe syphoners failed to spawn because I remember seeing location like this, but completely empty.

They do not have a high detection so you're probably wandered around in stealth thus they hasn't showed up.

 

[Goromorg]

I've been expecting more drastic changes to Psi, TBH.
Looks like this patch nerfed sniper rifles more than it nerfed Psi!

 

[Parabalus]

Don't really like the PSI reserve stuff, if you're playing a wizard and you run out of it you either cheese drop combat or die.

Depending on how the PSI reserve interacts with Hemopsychosis and Premeditation it also might not be a too much a of deal.

TC got nerfed very hard when it was the easiest one to keep at 75.

 

[xuerebx]

If you ever needed your W2C ammo for sniper rifle or assault rifle, protectorate dreadnoughts have plenty

Huh, never cleared that warehouse. Protectorate doesn't turn hostile if you kill literally everyone there or you gonna take them out anyway?

I believe they do. I managed to get through that warehouse using stealth (specifically invested in stealth just for this mission) and items which boost stealth, and around 3,500 quick-loads, walking the path where no one inside the building noticed me. And I remained allies with the Protectorate throughout the whole game.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Wunderbar]

forget psi, lets talk about important stuff

Added shiv blueprint

Added shiv components to certain encounters in which the player loses his inventory

now wait a minute Evelyn, don't kill me just now, lemme craft a shiv.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Wunderbar]

forget psi, lets talk about important stuff

Added shiv blueprint

Added shiv components to certain encounters in which the player loses his inventory

now wait a minute Evelyn, don't kill me just now, lemme craft a shiv.

which quests result in loss of inventory anyway?

Foundry murderer

 

[Stavrophore]

If you ever needed your W2C ammo for sniper rifle or assault rifle, protectorate dreadnoughts have plenty

Huh, never cleared that warehouse. Protectorate doesn't turn hostile if you kill literally everyone there or you gonna take them out anyway?

I believe they do. I managed to get through that warehouse using stealth (specifically invested in stealth just for this mission) and items which boost stealth, and around 3,500 quick-loads, walking the path where no one inside the building noticed me. And I remained allies with the Protectorate throughout the whole game.

They dont become hostile if you kill warehouse, plus guards before the warehouse and destroy cameras.

 

[ciox]

pure psi wizards are gonna shit themselves.
-only 6 spells
-you need to memorize them
-need to sniff something to change them
-forcefield has health

[Expedition] Psycho-temporal contraction now has a high chance of causing its opposite (with randomized power) when it expires

High quality trolling.

Critical Power - Base bonus changed to 1% (down from 1.5%) and spec bonus changed to 0.1% (down from 0.15%); I'm not happy with this feat in general. Straight unconditional passive damage boost feats is something I'm going to avoid in the future for sure

Looks like the katana is def worse than crafted gear now.

 

[Parabalus]

Did anyone here playtest the PSI changes?

forget psi, lets talk about important stuff

Added shiv blueprint

Added shiv components to certain encounters in which the player loses his inventory

now wait a minute Evelyn, don't kill me just now, lemme craft a shiv.

which quests result in loss of inventory anyway?

Foundry murderer

Also the JSHQ in expedition.

 

[Stavrophore]

I dont see any mention in patch notes of fixing the ferryman "center" bug. Shame

The butthurt of PSI users xD. Good, it was seriously incredibly bad that every build invested in psi and 55 in TC.

Energy pistols were also nerfed hard with critical power decrease.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[ciox]

forget psi, lets talk about important stuff

Added shiv blueprint

Added shiv components to certain encounters in which the player loses his inventory

Shiv is nice because it's the lowest AP (7) way to apply effects like Expose Weakness, for a character that doesn't focus on dex/unarmed.

 

[Stavrophore]

Sadly shiv doesn't have any bleeding stacking, so as a knife build its pretty useless. Even with bonus crit damage you will probably kill one enemy, maybe two at most.

 

[Wunderbar]

Did anyone here playtest the PSI changes?

forget psi, lets talk about important stuff

Added shiv blueprint

Added shiv components to certain encounters in which the player loses his inventory

now wait a minute Evelyn, don't kill me just now, lemme craft a shiv.

which quests result in loss of inventory anyway?

Foundry murderer

Also the JSHQ in expedition.

i bet shiv will be very useful against naga protectors.

 

[Stavrophore]

pure psi wizards are gonna shit themselves.
-only 6 spells
-you need to memorize them
-need to sniff something to change them
-forcefield has health

-Spells limiting is meh, if i invest in different psi schools i expect to use them fully
-as above
-another consumable for PSI is good, they already were pretty low cost characters compared to SMG the cost was ludicrously small. You never worry going DC if you run out of your special ammo with PSI.
-very good change, people said it many times that force field needs health

 

[Parabalus]

pure psi wizards are gonna shit themselves.
-only 6 spells
-you need to memorize them
-need to sniff something to change them
-forcefield has health

-Spells limiting is meh, if i invest in different psi schools i expect to use them fully
-as above
-another consumable for PSI is good, they already were pretty low cost characters compared to SMG the cost was ludicrously small. You never worry going DC if you run out of your special ammo with PSI.
-very good change, people said it many times that force field needs health

It's not just the 6 spell limit, if you use 3 schools you get +30% PSI cost. Probably tolerable late game, but before that ehh.

 

[ciox]

i bet shiv will be very useful against naga protectors.

Unironically it will because of my post above.