World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Sailor Woedica]

Yaaasssss, Damsel, slaaaay. Preach, girlfriend. That timeless commie-parody look (???) is, no tea, no shade, beat for the gods!

 

[Lacrymas]

sorry, he actually doesn't what?

this is the ending I'm referring:

Spoiler

Spoiler

He doesn't "win the mind battle"

 

[FreeKaner]

Damsel isn't as much of a "parody" as a cheeky, meta-critical character.

I don't know why people here are thinking some sort of commie hating republicans made bloodlines.

 

[alyvain]

I don't know why people here are thinking some sort of commie hating republicans made bloodlines.

It's an affectionate parody. I'm not sure about particular term, while she provides valid in-game criticism, she does it in an exagerrated manner. I'm pretty sure the first dialogue with her goes along the lines "Fuck you, Camarilla pig". Even some Jucheists I know aren't that autistic in social interactions

 

[Strange Fellow]

I'm reading the VTM 2nd edition core rulebook, and I come across this section on DMing:

The Storyteller's primary duty is to make sure the other players have a good time. The way to do that is to tell a good tale. Unlike traditional Storytellers, however, she doesn't simply tell the story; instead, she must create the skeleton of a story and then let the players flesh it out by living the roles of its leading characters. It is a careful balance between narration and adjudication, between story and game. Sometimes she must set the scene or describe what occurs (such as when the characters are asleep), but mostly she must decide what occurs in reaction to the words and actions of the characters - as realistically, impartially and creatively as she possibly can.

Strange how those SJWs ruin everything with their pronouns these days. If only we could go back to 1992, when politics didn't exist and RPG writers were all apolitical, eh?

 

[HansDampf]

I'm reading the VTM 2nd edition corebook, and I come across this section on DMing:

The Storyteller's primary duty is to make sure the other players have a good time. The way to do that is to tell a good tale. Unlike traditional Storytellers, however, she doesn't simply tell the story; instead, she must create the skeleton of a story and then let the players flesh it out by living the roles of its leading characters. It is a careful balance between narration and adjudication, between story and game. Sometimes she must set the scene or describe what occurs (such as when the characters are asleep), but mostly she must decide what occurs in reaction to the words and actions of the characters - as realistically, impartially and creatively as she possibly can.

Strange how those SJWs ruin everything with their pronouns these days. If only we could go back to 1992, when politics didn't exist and RPG writers were all apolitical, eh?

Yeah, but we didn't have twitter, facebook, reddit, and drama youtubers to make us outraged about it.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Damsel isn't as much of a "parody" as a cheeky, meta-critical character.

I don't know why people here are thinking some sort of commie hating republicans made bloodlines.

She's a try hard socialist student cliche (wearing a Che Gevarra cap, c'mon), many characters in Bloodlines were stereotypes but the writing and voice acting made it work. They were all fun and memorable.

People who made Bloodlines leaned left but the game never crossed the line into being preachy and authoritarian, not to mention had a lot of content which in today's climate would be deemed very problematic and downright unacceptable (depiction of sex workers, racial stereotypes, Heather the blood slave, female characters that use seduction to manipulate you, snuff tape etc.).

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Aaaah... back to politics for retards. I was afraid. This thread actually dared to discuss the game and WoD lore for a while.

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm reading the VTM 2nd edition core rulebook, and I come across this section on DMing:

The Storyteller's primary duty is to make sure the other players have a good time. The way to do that is to tell a good tale. Unlike traditional Storytellers, however, she doesn't simply tell the story; instead, she must create the skeleton of a story and then let the players flesh it out by living the roles of its leading characters. It is a careful balance between narration and adjudication, between story and game. Sometimes she must set the scene or describe what occurs (such as when the characters are asleep), but mostly she must decide what occurs in reaction to the words and actions of the characters - as realistically, impartially and creatively as she possibly can.

Strange how those SJWs ruin everything with their pronouns these days. If only we could go back to 1992, when politics didn't exist and RPG writers were all apolitical, eh?

It's funny people think this is a political statement, lololol. Many rulebooks used he and she interchangeably, including D&D. I don't know whether that's proper grammar, since "he" is used as a general pronoun referring to nobody in particular, but whatevs.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

I vaguely remember that he actually doesn't.

He does in one of the endings depending on your humanity IIRC.

 

[Fedora Master]

I'm reading the VTM 2nd edition core rulebook, and I come across this section on DMing:

The Storyteller's primary duty is to make sure the other players have a good time. The way to do that is to tell a good tale. Unlike traditional Storytellers, however, she doesn't simply tell the story; instead, she must create the skeleton of a story and then let the players flesh it out by living the roles of its leading characters. It is a careful balance between narration and adjudication, between story and game. Sometimes she must set the scene or describe what occurs (such as when the characters are asleep), but mostly she must decide what occurs in reaction to the words and actions of the characters - as realistically, impartially and creatively as she possibly can.

Strange how those SJWs ruin everything with their pronouns these days. If only we could go back to 1992, when politics didn't exist and RPG writers were all apolitical, eh?

It's funny people think this is a political statement, lololol. Many rulebooks used he and she interchangeably, including D&D. I don't know whether that's proper grammar, since "he" is used as a general pronoun referring to nobody in particular, but whatevs.

These books do it because RPG nerd fuckos have always been mainly liberals, as have video game developers.

 

[Lacrymas]

I vaguely remember that he actually doesn't.

He does in one of the endings depending on your humanity IIRC.

It's heavily implied he doesn't in the bad ending. The neutral ending doesn't even go there.

 

[gruntar]

I really really hope they'll manage to deliver something like that and that clan selection for example, wont be only a choice of favorite "powers"

Becoming a nosferatu doesn't even make sense narratively. Why would anyone willingly want to become a freak who has to navigate sewers to get around when they have the option to become a vampire who doesn't have to be that way? This conveniently also saves them a lot of work (no special dialogues, no special scripting that resulted in Nosferatus being dead-ended in unpatched Bloodlines because no one had ever fully tested it in QA)

Nosferatu needing to navigate servers to get around is a myth. You don't have to do that, you can safely move on the surface, you don't even need to sneak, just don't get to close or talk to unnamed NPCs. I believe that this myth prevented many players from trying playing Nosferatu (too hard and annoying) and it's a shame because after Malkavian they have the most unique dialogue and interactions. Every named human NPC freaks out when you interact with them (you don't break the Masquerade though) in a funny way. The only exception is that porn video store owner in Hollywood, he seems to be used to dealing with Nosferatu.

 

[Lacrymas]

I found a couple of shes in AD&D's manual -

(It's most likely a painting by Luis Royo)
Anyway, first edition uses "he or she", while AD&D uses he. The specialized books use "he or she".

 

[agentorange]

Ok I know I just posted about Damsel just a few hours ago but I was on my phone near hockey and now that I'm home I just want to fully gush about how fierce she is!

It's totally blowing my mind that a video game character from the early 2000s is soo timeless and so soo fierce! It's like when I watched Clueless with my sisters and could not get over just how iconic Cher was!

She's aspirational in the best way YA fiction characters always are, she could totally be one of your best friends in the squad but you also totally want to be that girl. Brian Mitsoda is a genius and it is a crime if Damsel doesn't return in Bloodlines 2 (of course with an updated lewk of pastel hair and a Future is Female crop top!)

Bloodlines is totally one of the best games I've ever played!!!

Shut up you dumb bitch.

 

[Lacrymas]

While searching for pronoun usage, I came by this very delicious satirical essay on language policing from 1985 - http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html

It sounds like it could've been written today.

 

[boobio]

I did not know he was a fan of the original.

 

[gruntar]

Caine/Antedeluvians are like the Lady of pain. They are plot devices on wich the setting is founded.
Not supposed to have stats. Not supposed to ever meet them. Not supposed to survive the meeting.

Sire: God

Sire of Caine was Adam.

 

[Lacrymas]

I did not know he was a fan of the original.

Yes, the original. Which he played multiplayer with his friends. Unless he means Redemption, but I doubt it and this way is funnier.

 

[Roguey]

People who like Tremere are the worst. Not only the sign of an unbalanced and powerhungry narcissist, but far worse: an indication that they enjoy the blatant, hamfisted parts of the setting that lack the subtlety and balanced dynamics characterizing the rest of it

I don't care about politics, I just prefer spell slinging to lousy melee combat (with regard to Bloodlines and also probably the sequel).

Damsel isn't as much of a "parody" as a cheeky, meta-critical character.

I don't know why people here are thinking some sort of commie hating republicans made bloodlines.

You can rib her.

It's also likely intentionally amusing that like many lefties, she goes hard into being sexist and racist when mad.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Tremere and Ventrue have cool suits and coats so they're the best clans.

 

[Fedora Master]

Speaking of Xiao, I never figured out what kind of weeaboo magic she used to turn into a slug monster. Any basis in the PnP for that?

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

I love how these YouTube channels centered around "GAMING OUTRAGE" latch onto Bloodlines 2's possibility of being an SJW deathpit as though they actually give a shit.

 

[Nano]

It's also likely intentionally amusing that like many lefties, she goes hard into being sexist and racist when mad.

It's okay for women to use those slurs. And what part of that dialogue is racist?

 

[Roguey]

And what part of that dialogue is racist?

Calling her a demon. Additionally

"I hate those goddamn devils" "skank sushi"