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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

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Damsel was always this edgy and her going to kill white males is pretty much what her personality was always like.
Yet she has no problems with Nines and Jack, white males. Doesn't look like killing white males is pretty much her personality.
And she wasn't championing for Skelter, the only Bloodlines black anarach, to be on the top, some ally she is.
Speaking of Helter Skelter, even he called Damsel for what she was- a college girl.
 

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Yet she has no problems with Nines and Jack
Nines was hispanic. He did look white though, which is usually enough for most lefty nutjobs these days.

I'm not sure what Jack was. Maybe from Spain? Though again, looked like a white guy.

Regardless, it just goes to show how modern racial politics have nothing to do with VTM. You think Jack still thinks of himself as a member of whatever nation birthed him? You think he's worried about "representation" for his race now that he's not even a part of it any more and hasn't been for over 100 years?
 

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Yet she has no problems with Nines and Jack
Nines was hispanic. He did look white though, which is usually enough for most lefty nutjobs these days.
I point you to the Trayvor Martin case, where a hispanic man was called white because it suited the leftard narrative.

Jack was a pirate back in the day, and so is more likely to be white.
 

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I just read that "conversation" between Rudi and the others, why is every sentence so cringe? Normal people don't talk like this, it's like a script they are reading out of. Nobody sane in the universe calls himself a cishet white male. Not to mention vampires in WoD don't have a sexuality. Is this the writing we can expect? Tranny support groups?
 

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The difference between Bloodlines 2 and all the nostalgia based Kickstarter projects is that this one has Paradox exercising some quality control on a game with a much larger budget. Maybe that won’t be enough to make it good, but it’s a meaningful distinction.

When they bought White Wolf, they knew Bloodlines 2 would be its most valuable title by far. I don’t think they want to shoot their wad on a shit game that merely exists to cash in on nostalgia via preorders (also, is it even nostalgia when Bloodlines sold badly out of the gate before becoming very popular since its release on Steam?). If Bloodlines 2 is a disappointment, that really damages the whole World of Darkness franchise. They want this to be the first of many WoD video games.

Paradox may have a ton of flaws, but nobody’s ever accused them of short-term thinking. They’re long-term greedy. That’s the whole business model (and what everyone hates about them). They’re still pumping out new DLC for Crusader Kings 2, a game that’s seven years old. DLC carries much higher profit margins than full games because the bulk of the development has already been paid for. But you can’t sell tons of DLC if you make a game that people don’t enjoy playing.

One thing that makes me more positive: they’ve said repeatedly that they didn’t plan on doing Bloodlines 2 first, that they wanted to build up to it after figuring out to do make a good V:tM game. So I can’t imagine them ditching that plan and giving White Wolf’s marquee product to some no-name developer unless they really believed in the pitch, and they would’ve cancelled it long before this announcement if they didn’t think it was coming along well.

Of course, Paradox could be dead wrong. But the idea that they’re merely cashing in on nostalgia rings false. They don’t want to waste all of the nostalgia based goodwill they have here and they only get one chance to really benefit from it.
 

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I just read that "conversation" between Rudi and the others, why is every sentence so cringe? Normal people don't talk like this, it's like a script they are reading out of. Nobody sane in the universe calls himself a cishet white male. Not to mention vampires in WoD don't have a sexuality. Is this the writing we can expect? Tranny support groups?
No one in the sane universe, perhaps, but we do see a lot of sjws referring to themselves as such on twatter and other anti-social media.
 

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I just read that "conversation" between Rudi and the others, why is every sentence so cringe? Normal people don't talk like this, it's like a script they are reading out of. Nobody sane in the universe calls himself a cishet white male. Not to mention vampires in WoD don't have a sexuality. Is this the writing we can expect? Tranny support groups?

That was very poorly written, but in left spaces calling yourself a cis-het white male is definitely a thing and this is supposed to be an antifa meeting. Although it’s clearly written by someone who’s never been to any kind of communist or anarchist gathering because no one used the word praxis.

Anyway, isn’t that from the source book that got White Wolf’s management fired? I don’t think we’ll be seeing stuff like this in the game.
 

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He didn't drop a single 'pendejo' or 'puta' the whole game so I press x for doubt.

There was talk early on of an East Los Angeles Hub for the game in one of the numerous production meetings I attended at Troika. I was thinking hispanic influence Nines Rodriquez with Open Season. Open Season would have been that area's main theme.



As a side note, it's too bad the unused Downtown theme didn't make it in. I can only hope it gets repurposed for B2, since it's too good to go to waste.



Not to mention vampires in WoD don't have a sexuality.

ahem
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Anyway, whatever nonsense White Wolf put it into V5 is irrelevant because this is the Mitsoda show.
 

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Insert Title Here My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
Surprisingly a lot of girls at work. I didn't even know that many of them played videogames.
Actually, VtMB is a uniquely popular CRPG among girls, at least here in CIS.
Fan community on VK (CIS Facebook) has 40+% girls, while the general gaming population is like 85/15 or more (the one concerned with CRPGs and not mobile fashion games).
 
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As a side note, it's too bad the unused Downtown theme didn't make it in. I can only hope it gets repurposed for B2, since it's too good to go to waste.

I restored that track into the tutorial of the plus version of the Unofficial Patch because it's supposed to happen downtown.
 

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The whole idea that vampires are asexual beings is pretty retarded. Most of the vampires are portrayed to be about the same after getting turned as they were prior. Their personalities don't change. The clans are what they are because they tend to turn those they feel are most likely to fit into the clan. It is a case of selective breeding, if you will. The Toreador are even portrayed to be practically lovelorn stalkers. In Bloodlines, the Torrie leader turned a guy he had a crush on.

That asexual thing sounds like white wolf trying to handwave away a gnarly question that would have kicked their sjw "streetcred" in the nads.
 

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WoD's been wholly inconsistent on vampires and sex, or emotions in general. Like the writers publicly fighting over the philosophical questions of what sexuality and emotion even are. It's all about as contradictory as the idea of living dead itself. Just gotta let the given storyteller do what they want and roll with it, really.
 

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I kind of like the V5 concept of Second Inquisition and that vampires are no longer the shadow rulers, but rather hunted species. But the cringe of other stuff and their writing....
 

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